F1 set for fascinating weekend in Spain
Four races down, and the Formula 1 season is shaping up nicely.
There have been three different winners, driving for three different teams. The championship is fascinatingly poised. And the numerous story threads that always promised to make this season so fascinating are delivering all that was expected and more.
Because rain has influenced three of the four races so far, so many questions remain about how the season might develop - and Spain, if it's dry, should begin to provide the answers.
McLAREN
have not had the fastest car - it has been third fastest behind the and . But thanks to Jenson Button's brilliantly opportunistic victories in Australia and China, they lead the constructors' championship as well as the drivers' chase.
In terms of pure results, Button has outshone team-mate Lewis Hamilton. As well as his two victories, he has perhaps surprisingly out-qualified Hamilton three to one, and he is leading the younger man by 11 points in the championship.
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Button has, without question, been incredibly impressive in integrating himself into what previously was very much Hamilton's team, and his driving has been exemplary. But this battle has many twists and turns to come.
Hamilton has actually been faster than Button in three of the four races so far, and he put in brilliant recovery drives in Australia and China. In Bahrain and Malaysia, he beat Button. But in Australia a wrong call on strategy left him sixth while his team-mate won.
Yet it was fascinating to note that when Hamilton finally got into second place to Button in China, on a wet track that some might have expected to favour Hamilton, in a straight fight on equal terms Button actually pulled away.
Hamilton will undoubtedly beat Button in some races this year - but the battle is so close that, over a season, it could be decided by nuances.
How the drivers use their tyres, for example, will have a critical effect in some races - with Button's smooth style expected to give him the edge at races where tyre wear is heavy.
It is for this reason that Barcelona, where the Circuit de Catalunya is renowned for being hard on tyres, might be expected to favour Button.
At others, the searing pace that Hamilton has shown on several occasions this season may well be too much for the reigning champion.
Most likely, the advantage will see-saw through the season. So far, the drivers' relationship seems to be good, showing none of the cracks that appeared between Hamilton and Alonso at McLaren in 2007. Whether it can survive a title fight between the two, should that occur, remains to be seen.
Although McLaren have been slightly off the pace of the Red Bulls and Ferraris, they have been edging closer, and have for Barcelona. The - as tough a test of a car's all-round capabilities as they come, with its mix of long corners - will reveal how much progress they have made.
RED BULL V FERRARI
The perceived wisdom in F1 at the moment is that Red Bull have the fastest car and that had it not been for reliability issues Vettel would have won the first three races and be sitting in a comfortable championship lead.
But I'm not sure it's quite as simple as that.
In qualifying, certainly, the Red Bull is the quickest car. But there is simply not enough evidence to say that is definitively the case in races. There has not yet been a full-distance, straightforward dry race with all the cars starting in what would be considered their normal qualifying positions to judge.
In Bahrain, Vettel had the Ferraris right on his tail when he suffered his spark-plug failure. Wary of tyre wear, Vettel wasn't pushing to the limit; but neither was , who went on to win the race. We never got to see how that fight would have played out.
In Australia, the start was wet, and Alonso spun at the first corner. The Spaniard was very quick in his recovery drive; whether he was fast enough to challenge Vettel had they been running together at the front we don't know.
In Malaysia, the Ferraris, like the McLarens, started at the back after mis-reading the weather in qualifying. And in China, it was a wet race - but that, while the Red Bulls were on the front row, Alonso would have won had the race been dry because of far superior tyre wear.
Even in qualifying, the gap has not been as big as is suggested by some - a 10th of a second or two between the Red Bulls and Alonso.
And Alonso himself certainly believes he can challenge the Red Bulls on Sunday afternoons.
In an this week, he said: "Red Bull is stronger in qualifying, they are very fast, but we can catch up in the race."
So, is Red Bull the quickest car over a race distance as well as one lap? Or can Ferrari match it over 200 miles? Spain should begin to provide an answer to this question.
ALONSO V MASSA
Ferrari are acutely sensitive to any suggestion that there might be a problem brewing between their two drivers - not least because everyone is on the look-out for one.
Alonso's audacious pass of Massa on their way into the pits in China was the latest test that has come up in four races, all of which have put between the Spaniard and the Brazilian. And it remains to be seen how that will affect the team.
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It was a certainly a cheeky move - but you could see why Alonso did it.
He had sat behind his team-mate in both the previous races in Australia and Malaysia, despite being significantly quicker than him, unable to pass because overtaking is very difficult with these 2010 cars and he could not risk a collision with his team-mate. And he was clearly not going to let it happen again.
It was Alonso's fault he was behind Massa in those races - he spun at the start in Australia; Massa had a better first lap than him in Malaysia; and in China Alonso jumped the start and was given a drive-through penalty.
By and large, Alonso has been comfortably quicker than Massa.
The first race in Bahrain was tricky to call, but there has been no doubt who was the faster in the subsequent three races, and Massa's error in qualifying in China had all the hallmarks of a driver over-reaching himself trying to keep up with an intrinsically quicker team-mate.
So, from Alonso's point of view, he simply needs to cut out the silly mistakes and he should be fine.
From Ferrari's, while their policy of letting the two men race is admirable, one has to wonder how much longer they can persist in it if the performance disparity continues in the same vein.
Many more races like Australia or Malaysia and they will risk putting Alonso's title chances in jeopardy for the sake of team harmony with a driver who, so far, has generally not been able to keep pace with him.
And if Massa wants people to stop making such observations, he could start by proving he is worthy of equal treatment by at least matching Alonso. Of course, should he do that at Alonso's home race, then the tension will be ratcheted up another notch.
MERCEDES
The Spanish Grand Prix is a critical race for , so far the slowest of the top four teams.
The team are taking an updated car to Barcelona, with more front downforce and a revised weight distribution. This, it is hoped, will make the car quicker, but also - just as importantly - enable , whose comeback has been underwhelming to say the least, to tune it more to his liking.
So far, Schumacher has not been able to adapt to the current-generation F1 cars, which have a general tendency to understeer (have less grip at the front than the rear). He has always preferred a 'pointy' front end, a car that changes direction sharply.
His attempts to tune the Mercedes in that direction have made his problems worse.
After failing to match team-mate in the first three races, but being acceptably close, he was embarrassingly slow in China - more than 0.7secs off his pace in qualifying, and 50 seconds back at the end of the race (a margin he lost in three-fifths of a race distance, following a safety car, in the sort of conditions in which he used to excel).
Having expected Schumacher to be competitive pretty much from the off, I have to admit to being as confused as anyone about his predicament.
Perhaps I was expecting too much of a 41-year-old who has been out for three years; perhaps, even for a driver as great as Schumacher, it really is that difficult to re-attune yourself to an F1 car after so long.
But one of the things that made him stand out in his first career was that, while he preferred an oversteery car, he could drive around any problems and still be super-quick.
His former Ferrari team-mate often wondered aloud how Schumacher produced the times he did. "Understeer just kills me," Irvine would say, "but it doesn't seem to bother Michael; he just drives around it."
Despite such awkward questions, Schumacher has so far been given the benefit of the doubt. While many are wondering why one of the greatest racing drivers of all time is struggling on his comeback, most have so far largely been prepared to accept the explanations provided.
But for how much longer?
As my colleague recently, this revised car "could make or break Schumacher's so far ill-starred comeback. If the new car doesn't deliver the characteristics Schumacher says he needs to be competitive, serious doubts will be raised over him seeing out his three-year contract."
Comment number 1.
At 6th May 2010, flyingbanana wrote:Looks like I'll get in first for once, maybe everyone else has gone off to vote.....
With another variable weather forecast, it looks like we could be waiting another few weeks to get answers to the 'who's fastest in the dry...' questions, especially with Monaco next week (that won't help answer many questions...)
I think it could be a close battle between Button & Alonso at the front, the Red Bulls didn't seem to be great in the wet at Shanghai...
So, more questions than answers again this weekend, and will we get to see the Michael Schumacher of old.....?
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Comment number 2.
At 6th May 2010, FastBBBB wrote:Someone with sense
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At 6th May 2010, lorus59 wrote:Is it just me or is luck playing a bigger part this season? The timing of safety cars, when it rains, when you change tyres and so many other elements of luck.
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Comment number 4.
At 6th May 2010, mclarenteam wrote:Can`t wait for the lights to go out in spain with lewis leading
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Comment number 5.
At 6th May 2010, daz3232 wrote:Yeah defo a lot of luck involved so far this season Red Bull unlucky not to have more points on the board Jenson lucky to have as many points as he has.
The best driving so far has been from Lewis just unlucky he has not won one yet. And Shumacher lucky to be given a seat at Mercedes after his very average performance.
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Comment number 6.
At 6th May 2010, flyingbanana wrote:Hmmm...who's been lucky, who's been unlucky, and what's luck?
Red Bull haven't been unlucky, their cars have been unreliable!
Ferrari's reliability hasn't been wonderful either...
Jenson hasn't been lucky, the second safety car in Shanghai wasn't good for him, and his calls on tyres have been very good, which has been a big factor in his two wins, staying out on slicks in Shanghai when others were changing to inters was a brave move, not a lucky one - when any driver changes tyres, its his/his team's choice, not luck, and with all the teams having weather monitoring systems, they should all no room to complain if they are 'caught out' by the weather - witness qualifying in Sepang, McLaren & Ferrari both held their hands up and said they made bad calls!
Lewis has been very fast at times, good to watch, making plenty of overtaking moves, but hasn't always made the best tyre choices (nothing to do with luck!)
Maybe Schumacher is lucky to have his drive, but various people within the Mercedes team are saying he is fantastic to work with (including Nico Rosberg), he may not be winning the races that so many people thought he would, but he brings a wealth of experience to the team that money can't buy...
I'm looking forward to this weekend with the promise of more variable weather....and then next week Monaco...bring it on!
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Comment number 7.
At 6th May 2010, akasportfan wrote:Some one cleverer than me said " the harder i practice the luckier i get".
Red bull have been unreliable. Thats not unlucky thats because they're design is not the best compromise between pace and reliability (yet).
Jenson has used his experience and cool head to make the right decisions that have won him races. Again not luck. Being fast is not purely about pace, but about getting yourself in the right position by making the right decisions. The two Mclaren drivers are an excellent example of this.
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Comment number 8.
At 6th May 2010, sadisticend wrote:Interesting blog Andrew, I’m really looking forward to this weeks Spanish GP. The weather forecast is showing heavy rain for Sundays race which is great, gonna be another action packed GP.
I’m loving the battle between Hamilton and Button, 2 amazing drivers at the top of their game, it’s like experience VS raw speed.
The battle between Alonso and Massa will develop well as the season progresses, the reason why Massa looks a lot slower than Alonso is because rain has effected 3 of the 4 races so far. I think Massa isn’t as competitive in the wet, anyone remember Silverstone 08’ lol.
It’s clear to me why Schumacher’s not performing as well as people expect, 1 reason is the car doesn’t suit his style and the other is the quality of drivers in this championship. If you look back at the mid 90s through to the mid noughties there wasn’t the talent we have today, before there were 1 or 2 drivers that could challenge him, now we have at least 8 drivers with the potential to win a championship. That includes his underrated teammate Rosberg and Kubica in the Renault.
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At 6th May 2010, lorus59 wrote:Sometimes I am amazed at the headlines in the ´óÏó´«Ã½ website. "Mclaren target the front row on the grid".
Does that mean that Red Bull or Ferrari don't? What is the actual point of that headline? It's so ambiguous it's beyond belief.
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Comment number 10.
At 6th May 2010, Ginger wrote:#9 It might be because they have struggled on a Saturday? Also the pole sitter at Spain wins the race (Has been the case for about 9 years!)
Looking forward to the back to back as we all are. Rain might interfere again this weekend, makes for better races but difficult to predict.
I would also expect Lewis to win one of the next two but we will have to see how the cars perform after the updates.....
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Comment number 11.
At 6th May 2010, The Samaritan wrote:This blog like many others have jumped the gun when evaluating team drivers. Is this even the right time to start doing so? You state that we have had an "abnormal" 4 races so far so really it should be too early to tell who has the edge as the convictions are "abnormal"...you Brits always overhyping this or that driver (and the English national soccer team!) only to come up a cropper....patience the goose is only half cooked!
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At 6th May 2010, Paul Lucas wrote:I find it a little peculiar that Merc are putting so many resources into Schumacher's racing comfort. Ross Brawn had always insisted at Ferrari that they would begin to support one driver when one was appearing the stronger championship challenger - which 'happened' to be Schumacher over and over. This time around it's Rosberg, but they're changing the car's characteristics to suit Schumacher?
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Comment number 13.
At 6th May 2010, daz3232 wrote:#6 "Jenson hasn't been lucky, the second safety car in Shanghai wasn't good for him, and his calls on tyres have been very good, which has been a big factor in his two wins, staying out on slicks in Shanghai when others were changing to inters was a brave move, not a lucky one"
Yeah it was a brave move it was also a gamble there is no way he knew what was going to happen with the weather. He is not doing an in depth study into barometric pressure when he is doing 200mph. Im sure the mclaren pit wall are though and if you have got 2 cars at the front and you are not really sure which way the weather is gonna go. You would leave one car on slicks and put one on inters.
Hence an element of LUCK is involved.
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Comment number 14.
At 6th May 2010, Hookers_armpit wrote:"F1 set for fascinating weekend in Spain"
You keep telling us F1 is fascinating (as the F1 web team does for every grand prix enmasse)- when you try so hard to convince people of this you start to wonder if is true. If it has been so fascinating why do you need to keep telling us? Couldn't be anything to do with the beeb having spent so much money on what could turn out to be a ropey product sold at an over-inflated price by the super-rich whilst other key services within the ´óÏó´«Ã½ remit face the axe?
PS I'm an F1 fan but all these protestations of 'interestingess' are crazy.
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Comment number 15.
At 6th May 2010, Ce La Vie wrote:"Yet it was fascinating to note that when Hamilton finally got into second place to Button in China, on a wet track that some might have expected to favour Hamilton, in a straight fight on equal terms Button actually pulled away."
Can't say I agree with this statement. If anything, Hamilton was catching upto Button before backing off. Even then, Button made a mistake, and it brough Hamilton right upto him by the finish.
Plus I'm sure we both agree, had Hamilton been higher up after the safety car, we'd likely have had a different winner to the race. Button had better judgement, but he certainly wasn't faster on track.
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At 6th May 2010, Biscuter wrote:They say that you should wait at least until the fifth match of the championship before one evaluates a football team at the start of the season.
Of course this is formula one but likewise one should wait at least until Monaco before making any such predictions. Unless it’s a two car contest from the same team like last year.
Usually these first races are to make contact, sort of speak, with the pitch, the cars, the playing ground, the team work, the adrenaline et all. This year even more so as the winter test were shorter. There’s plenty of unpredictability in any race, weather, track conditions, lottery with the cars, etc. and on the opening races this is more evident. That’s why usually the significant upgrades in the cars are brought once we are back in Europe, because there’s more information about what’s needed.
Well, in spite of all this, the drivers still have got to deliver, to overcome the difficulties, to adapt to what’s needed in that particular race or track.
Sometimes luck plays its part too, that’s correct. However, there’s a pattern from those who come on top that cannot be put down to luck. There’s no luck in Jenson, Nico, Fernando and Lewis leading the table. You could argue that maybe others would be there also if… then… but in the end only the real champ material make it.
In other words, only those who manage to go through the adversities, (wrong tyres, car failures, rain, knocks and bumps, etc) are going to be there come the end of the season. It’s all very nice and easy to start on pole and cruise to the finish. But that seldom happens this season.
I’m not going to analyse that Vettel has made three poles out of four, that Button chooses his tyres like a taylor, that Hammy overtakes more cars than Valentino Rossi motorbikes or that Nico is in the top bunch in spite of driving an obvious inferior car.
What calls my attention is that none of them had to overcome so many adversities as Alonso.
After three horrendous starts, one DNF (he’s the only one of the lot who’s had a dnf), a good car but not necessarily the best, et all, he’s up there in third with the same points as Hamilton.
Furthermore, he’s showing great composure and maturity after the races. He explains in a simple way what went wrong, admits when he makes mistakes. Gone are the days when he would have a go at the team or other drivers. No moaning, no excuses.
This attitude above all, plus his ability to go round the problems, make him in my opinion the man to beat.
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Comment number 17.
At 6th May 2010, Chris wrote:#13 I agree with you to a certain extent. You are probably right about the team tactic, but I wonder how it came about. Jenson is a smoother driver than Lewis and his car was obviously handling OK at the time the call to change to inters was made. The team always said it was Jenson's call to stay out on slicks, but I doubt it was as clear cut as that. After all, it appeared that Lewis DIDN'T have a choice - he was told to pit and he did so. Surely that would have been the case for Jenson as well. Everybody else was pitting. Lewis even complained on the team radio that it wasn't his decision.
Jenson and the team took a gamble on the weather and it worked, but it WAS a gamble - Jenson is a driver, not a meteorologist! If the rain had come in again as predicted it could have easily caught him out half way around the lap.
That said (assuming he didn't drop it under braking on slicks) had it started raining again, he would at least have the opportunity to stop for inters later, because, as I mentioned earlier, his car was OK on slicks on that track at that time, and that's all he could work with. Don't forget, to Jenson, the track would have appeared to be improving, whatever the weather radar said. If you look at it like that, Jenson's move wasn't so much genious as obvious: he and the team needed to do something different to win. If it had rained again, he would be back in the pack, where he would have been any way had he joined the queue for inters in the pit lane.
To sum it up for Jenson: Do the same as everybody else and don't win. Gamble and have a chance at winning.
That's my 2 penneth...
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At 6th May 2010, Tim wrote:Biscuter, it's hard to argue that Alonso is the man to beat. If I had to pick a WDC right now, I'd go for him.
However, this analysis is rather at odds with your first two paragraphs, where you point out that it's far too early to judge!
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Comment number 19.
At 6th May 2010, mancinicity wrote:I think Hamilton will win in Barcelona if it rains unless of course, Button is in front. I think Mclaren called on Hamilton to back off in China hence he came second. But by and large, I am really happy to see Button win those races even though I am a Hamilton fan. Its good for Mclaren and I think either of them stand a chance to win the championship this year.
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Comment number 20.
At 6th May 2010, Christopher Clarke-Williams wrote:There are three priorities for any blogger, Speculation, Speculation and Speculation.
Nice piece a good read.
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Comment number 21.
At 6th May 2010, Barrie28 wrote:#9 - Lorus59 I'm sometimes amazed by the ridiculous comments people put on this website. McClaren are targetting the front because they haven't managed it yet this season and of course Ferrari etc are targetting the front but that would make for a long title wouldn't it? Stop being so pedantic and READ the article!
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Comment number 22.
At 6th May 2010, Kate Derby wrote:Couldn't really call a spark plug failure and a wheel nut failure as normal reliability issues, definitely unusual and unfortunate. The RB6 is not a weak car but is very fast.
The start of the European races is going to be thrilling.
It will be nice though to see the fastest driver in the fastest car win.
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At 6th May 2010, hackerjack wrote:he may not be winning the races that so many people thought he would, but he brings a wealth of experience to the team that money can't buy...
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errr, they HAVE bought it though.
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At 6th May 2010, hackerjack wrote:Sometimes I am amazed at the headlines in the ´óÏó´«Ã½ website. "Mclaren target the front row on the grid".
Does that mean that Red Bull or Ferrari don't? What is the actual point of that headline? It's so ambiguous it's beyond belief.
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No, it means that McLaren were NOT targetting the front row before now, mainly because they didnt think they were fast enough to trade with the RBRs and Ferrari.
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Comment number 25.
At 6th May 2010, hackerjack wrote:They say that you should wait at least until the fifth match of the championship before one evaluates a football team at the start of the season.
Of course this is formula one but likewise one should wait at least until Monaco before making any such predictions.
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Hmm, 5th match or a 38 match season, that is 14%. 4th race of a 19 race season, that is 21%. Monaco would be 6 races, 31%. Try the maths before posting next time mate.
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Comment number 26.
At 6th May 2010, hackerjack wrote:What calls my attention is that none of them had to overcome so many adversities as Alonso.
After three horrendous starts, one DNF (he’s the only one of the lot who’s had a dnf), a good car but not necessarily the best, et all, he’s up there in third with the same points as Hamilton.
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Remind me again what extra adversities Alonso has had to deal with compared to Hamilton? Especially as the Ferrari is acknowledged as the faster car.
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At 6th May 2010, hackerjack wrote:After three horrendous starts, one DNF (he’s the only one of the lot who’s had a dnf)
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Vettel spinning out isn't a DNF then?
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Comment number 28.
At 6th May 2010, KnuttyBoy wrote:Hi, Guys.... One that's bugging me and I've probably missed the answer elsewhere.... but I thought that those white lines on the tarmac indicated the edge of the track? If this is the case, then surely Hamilton and (now famously) Alonso each gained an advantage by going off the racetrack on their way into the pits? I must be wrong, but I'd like to know why. Thanks in advance.
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Comment number 29.
At 6th May 2010, flattwelve wrote:On Schumacher, yes, the cars have changed and, yes, there are a host of fast, younger drivers around, but also don't forget that when he arrived at Ferrari, the car/team was not working well - and it took a few years to get up to speed and then win multiple championships.
Key to that process was, surely, the massive amounts of testing miles, put in by Schumacher, Irvine, Barichello and Badoer, making full use of their own test track. Advanced simulators can only do so much and I am guessing that he is missing the real miles on the track - and, I assume, Rosberg likes the car set-up as is and isn't too worried about the lack of testing time.
Given this situation, I reckon it could take him a full season to be really up to speed - and then that begs the question as to Mercedes' willingness to live with that, especially when there a number of other German F1 drivers around ...
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At 6th May 2010, jose tayob wrote:It is amazing that we see hamilton close on Button and then I do believe that Mclaren called him to back off
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At 6th May 2010, Paul wrote:Massa does not have to prove that he deserves equal treatment to Alonso, those rights form part of the sport's code of conduct, at least in theory. It is true that Ferrari with Schumacher or Renault with Alonso did not provide equal treatment to both team members, but that does not entitle Ferrari to do so again even though this article seems to be justifying just that.
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Comment number 32.
At 6th May 2010, Rachel Huckle wrote:It always interests me that the only time that Massa looks alive and racy is when Alonso is gaining on him, or trying to take a position away.
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Comment number 33.
At 6th May 2010, DocBarnett wrote:I didn't think McLaren ordered Lewis back off. He had destroyed his tyres and Jenson was pulled away to nine seconds until his front wheels lock.
Simple as that.
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Comment number 34.
At 6th May 2010, whatdoiknowaboutanything wrote:#12 like you, keep wondering why no-one else is talking about what Mercedes are doing?
Rosberg is a serious contender for the championship. He might not win many (or any) races, but always gets his car to the end. With so many fighting for wins, regular podiums could put him in a strong position. Will Mercedes jeopardise this by changing the car to suit Schumi, or decide to go with Rosberg as their best placed driver?
Is Rosberg the Prost on the grid surrounded by a bunch of Sennas?
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Comment number 35.
At 6th May 2010, dom taylor f1 wrote:Red bull have had an unrealiable car, not an unlucky one...
Button has been cunning, not lucky.
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Comment number 36.
At 6th May 2010, sadisticend wrote:I believe Mercedes are hoping to have the Vettel - Schumacher driver lineup next season, they want to keep Schumacher for several reasons on and off the track. They never expected the results to swing Rosbergs way and if it continues to do so it would put them in an awkward position towards the end of the season.
The solution is to change how the car works to suit Schumacher, they will be hoping Schumacher out-scores his teammate. This way they can justify kicking out Rosberg for Vettel rather than getting rid of Schumacher.
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Comment number 37.
At 7th May 2010, vinnieboards wrote:Button lucky?
Yeah, I think so but his luck as been calculated by experience and as they say in sport "you make your own luck". There have been plenty of people in these forums who wrote Button off as a poor excuse of a driver compared with Hamilton. Undoubtedly Hamilton is the better 'racer' but theres far more subtle traits to an F1 pilot than just being quick. Button has made the right calls at the right time, yes, there is an element of luck, but there is also an even bigger element of competency.
Button nurses his tyres which is down to a smooth driving style. He also has an extremely balanced temperament and is one of the best athletes on the grid. He may not retain his title over the season, but no one can realistically argue that he hasn't upped his game(I tipped Alonso before the season start, and I'm sticking with it though its not looking so great!).
Certianly though if the Frome Flyer keeps focused and has a competitive car he is more than capable of taking it. Will be happy if he does...
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Comment number 38.
At 7th May 2010, Biscuter wrote:hackerjack
There has been several DNF so far this season: Vettel, Buemi, De la Rosa, Kobayashi, Petrov, etc. But among those drivers on the top three places which I was referring to, (Button, Rosberg, Alonso and Hamilton), only Alonso.
I regret that I did not make myself clear enough for you to understand it.
The football example was just that, a simil. Not an exposure for any mathematical thesis.
No, I don't think Hamilton has encountered as many adversities as Alonso so far. I’m sure that you could work this one out.
But I suppose all of this would be debatable, which assuming that you are the type who picks on anything, would certainly please you enormously.
I leave it at that.
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Comment number 39.
At 7th May 2010, steve wrote:I fail why bloggers and ´óÏó´«Ã½ F1 crew has a strange bias towards certain drivers...It understandable towards Button and Hamilton for obvious reasons...
From the races we have seen it is clear the duel between Massa and ALonso is revving up but its not done yet...Alonso got the better in Bahrain (felipe qualified better & had engine heating problems)...the reverse happened in Australia...felipe messed up in China...malyasia was a team blunder..
It surprises me that when alonso can risk a pit lane move why dint he try a pass in australia...dont tell me overtaking is difficult in f1.we all know it is...
How is it that when Alonso is beaten its Alonso's mistake and when Felipe is passed its the greatness of Alonso..Be fair guys..
Felipe has not matched Alonso on raw pace..evident from qualifying..but lets not forget felipe is the guy who lost the championship by 1 point to lewis ( ´óÏó´«Ã½'s fav f1 child) courtesy Timo Glock..Felipe had more wins than Hamilton that season if you recall..
and I don't think Alonso need any pref or team orders yet..the championship is wide open...
Will u then agree that Mercedes have to push Nico as Michael doesn seem to get it right yet ??
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At 7th May 2010, Pedro1964 wrote:Tomorrow (May 8th) at about 1.53 pm will mark the 28th anniversary of the death of the great Gilles Villeneuve.
It would be a nice gesture if the ´óÏó´«Ã½ commentary team could get round to marking the occasion in some small way. Please.
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At 7th May 2010, Andrew Benson wrote:Hi all,
I'll be brief. It's been an interesting day here at the Circuit de Catalunya (and, no, I'm not saying that because I'm trying to sell F1; I just think it has, and the same goes for the season).
Michael Schumacher appears to have genuinely made a break-through with his form, thanks to the Mercedes upgrades (although that still doesn't explain why he couldn't drive around the problems before, as he would have done in his earlier career). Jonathan Legard will go into more detail on that in his blog, which will be published shortly.
The Red Bulls look super-quick, and Alonso told me Ferrari had changed their approach to Friday practice in an attempt to unlock more qualifying pace.
Roll on qualifying.
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At 7th May 2010, lebesset wrote:hamillton beat massa thanks to timo glock ...did you not watch ?
glock stayed out and gambled ...and won ! he improved his position
hamilton stopped for tyres and lost ground , the fact that he was able to overtake glock was purely due to the fact that he had wet tyres and glock was trying to stay on the track with dry tyres ; if the rain hadn;t come he would have been champion by a bigger margin !
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At 7th May 2010, John wrote:It's pretty silly how much better red bull have been than anyone else not just this season but most of last season. I find it difficult to take F1 seriously when drivers like Webber can get better results than far superior drivers like alonso and hamilton.
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At 8th May 2010, thefrogstar wrote:As #39 points out, how can you say that it was Alonso's fault that he was behind Massa and then criticise Massa for not being quick enough?
It's like saying "My football team was clearly the better side, they just scored less goals than the opposition....."
A football match is won by scoring more goals than you concede.
Pedal-to-the-metal in the same car, even I would stand a pretty good chance of being "intrinsically quicker" than Alonso or Massa if I didn't use the brakes. I wouldn't get round the first corner, but could still claim to be "intrinsically quicker".
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At 8th May 2010, TN23 wrote:This race can only be interesting in wet weather or changeable conditions. A less than exhilarating circuit coupled with the drivers knowing every inch of the circuit due to the amount of winter testing here. If it is dry, I can't see anyone but either of the Red Bull cars winning, and if forced to choose one driver, Vettel. Tips for a wet race, Lewis or Jenson.
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At 8th May 2010, TN23 wrote:A reply to comment no.43
I do think that you have a very good point. I do get a little exasperated when drivers who aren't that brilliant (obviously this is in comparison with other F1 drivers, not couch potatoes such as my self) get better results than the best, e.g. Riccardo Patrese beating Ayrton Senna and Schumacher for second position in 1992. Not wanting to do a 'James Hunt' and berate Patrese, but he was not in the same league as Schumacher and nowhere near Senna.
On the other hand, having the best drivers in the best cars would be difficult to achieve and perhaps kill the entertainment element of the sport for good, just as the sport recovers from its mid-2000's slump.
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