´óÏó´«Ã½

2005 Japan - yes still the top race ever for me.

Not so sure about Monaco though. btw is Monaco one of the races that ´óÏó´«Ã½/SKY will generously allow licence fee payers to watch in 2012?

'Gawd bless you sirs for your kindness'.

No to SKY

2005 again, but who can blame him?

Good choices other than that, thats the first time I've seen the 1979 French. I've heard all the folklore and could tell you what happened in the race but had never seen it. Truly brilliant racing.

Brazil, Japan, Monaco? Will we see any of those classics on the ´óÏó´«Ã½ next year?

Yes to RTL with 5Live and a massive NO to Sky.

some good races there once again :)

cant imagine the current races having problems like Monaco 1982

no to sky

A link to this article of the main page would be helpful!!

Great choices by Luizzi and if he has as much good luck this weekend as he had bad luck last weekend he will probably win the Korean GP in the HRT!

To the ´óÏó´«Ã½ team.

Great job at Japanese grand prix. Forum was top notch and felt as much part of the celebrations as possibly could sitting at home, all the team are excellent together, even Eddie! Please don't be tempted by a bit of extra cash to go behind the pay wall were most fans will never see you again!!

To the ´óÏó´«Ã½ management

Why did ´óÏó´«Ã½ abuse it's dominant position by blocking the channel 4 bid??

Why not just walk away so the bidding process could happen and F1 wouldn't be allowed to disappear behind a pay TV wall because of the Concorde Agreement??

Why being a publicly funded organisation do the worst possible deal for the people who fund it??
The fans didn't want the 15 million wasted in a joint deal with SKY which gave the loophole out of the Concorde Agreement and the non fans didn't want 15 million of their money wasted either.

When are these questions going to be answered?

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@6.SirAdamOfWarburton

It's only a rumour based on their probable dropping of the interactive service for the remaining races, and the fact that the contract runs out at the end of this season.

But it happened to Sky Italia, so who knows.

Like I said Sky UK have an advantage over Sky Germany, in as much as the ´óÏó´«Ã½ only show 50% of the races whereas RTL show them all ... but every journey starts with a single step :)

@7 Czar-Orac.

I know its only a rumour but its quite easy to draw comparisons between the base model they have and we have. They have never been truly shafted like we have as it has always been a choice there between FTA and Pay Wall subscription.

If Bernie hasn't noticed this then he really is losing it, but I'm pretty sure he is aware and just doesn't care, showing complete contempt for loyal fans.

Mr Benson/´óÏó´«Ã½.

Why is there no link to this blog on the main page or the F1 page?

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@9 Myself. This has now been updated, thanks.

@9

Its not the bbc turn to show f1 content this week... oh sorry thats not happening till next year:D

The bbc have said they wiil grace us f1 fans with monaco next year(what a lucky lot we are).
Japan 2005 great race

No to sky

Bored of the 'No to Sky' tag; get over it and direct your enthusiasum towards the sport that you love, admire and couldn't do without.

@10 lol, thank you for that, gave me a good laugh - I was soo tempted to go and look.

Yes to fta and no to ´óÏó´«Ã½/SKY deal...............

@13watching on rtl next year as to the spoet I (and many others) love why do you think we are protesting sky will kill f1 in the uk the bbc should of bowed out and let another fta channel take it up

So sorry your bored but I dont intend to roll over and give up anytime soon:)
No to sky

@13. supermarketpeople wrote:
Bored of the 'No to Sky' tag; get over it and direct your enthusiasum towards the sport that you love, admire and couldn't do without.
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Well, that's the whole point, isn't it. The sport we love, admire and will have to do without (yes for 50% of the races, but who wants to only watch half?) next season thanks to a waste of money that is the Olympics coverage and a certain man's epic greed.

Yes, the whole débacle is getting old now, but no-one ever got anywhere by keeping quiet, did they? ;)

Dear Andrew,

Can you let me know when ´óÏó´«Ã½ Sport plan to release details on their 2012 season coverage?
Following on from when, I'd like to understand the specifics so can the ´óÏó´«Ã½ answer:

1) Which of the ten F1 races will the ´óÏó´«Ã½ not be covering live or showing in full later that day?

2) Are ´óÏó´«Ã½ attempting to re-sign Martin Brundle and David Coulthard, or is this part of the F1 cuts as well?

3) Do ´óÏó´«Ã½ managment plan to make further year on year cuts to the F1 coverage throughout the duration of the deal?

4) Are ´óÏó´«Ã½ doing red button F1 forums next year?

5) Do the ´óÏó´«Ã½ managment feel they could have handled the announcement of the new deal better, better understood the value of F1 from audience numbers and ´óÏó´«Ã½ Trust reports, and if they feel they have been taken for a ride by Bernie Ecclestone?

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Glad to see the ´óÏó´«Ã½ have finally got into the habit of screening the Classic GP's inbetween Practices 1 & 2 on freeview. Its been so obvious for the last 2.5 years, but only now has it become regular... just in time to lose the coverage.. though i hope there can be a way the ´óÏó´«Ã½ can broadcast Classic GP on TV next year.. it may be one of the few trump cards it can play to combat Sky's coverage.

Some good choices of some classic races.

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Excellent choice in Monaco 82 - a couple of points. Firstly, the speed at which they went through the post-tunnel chicane was mind-blowing! Secondly, who was in charge of the opening titles that season? As 'The Chain' explodes into life we have a shot of a mechanic polishing a Lotus. Dramatic stuff.....

some good choices in there just a shame its 50% of what we all be able to watch next year unless you are prepared to watch the ten races the ´óÏó´«Ã½ wont be showing on sky for £470.00 in standard def or £600 for HD and lets face it most people can not afford that sort of luxury especially with finances and job security being what it is now. Imagine you team only winning the races that are not shown free to air so all you get is a pointless highlights program thats lost all the tension and excitement of a full LIVE race where you probably already know the result.what a disgusting way to treat fans that have been loyal to the sport..... no to sky

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Classic choices

no to Tony Jardine

@27 so true what tony jardine knows about F1 would fit on a Nat's nut plus he has the charisma of brick and he is typical of the sky broadcasting team

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2005 Japan, a great race thats for sure. I wonder if we will ever be able to see another great race from Japan, or just some limited highlights of what they "tell us" was as good as 2005.

The Astra idea doesnt help those that cant have a sattelite dish for whatever reason, but still its good to know about it.

Yes to terristrial TV

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Here we go again....one mention of RTL and the ´óÏó´«Ã½ censor talk about competition. This has not broken the house rules and therefore does not warrant further consideration. Please consider the comment and come to the conclusion that I am entitled to talk about satellite positions and which feed I will be using to watch F1.

Using the word 'align' means the moderators make you sit on the naughty step.

I reckon the ´óÏó´«Ã½ will get priced out of all the good races and be left with the not so entertaining races

´óÏó´«Ã½ - Silverstone, Monaco, Brazil, Malaysia, Spain, Hungary, Korea, China, Monza, Indian

@17 I do hope that red button forums are not another victim of this SKY deal, tho' let's be honest anything could happen now given how much has been surrendered

@18. Thats right block a comment that simply points out a perfectly legal, alternative way of watching F1 next year.

No To Sky!

Ho Hum, My comment 23 up for consideration.
I didnt break the rules but I guess I have a dirty email on the way...........

@33 I wouldn't mind so much if the comments then reappeared but they don't. Removed for consideration should be rephrased to say censored.

What happened to Free speach ´óÏó´«Ã½? I said nothing illegal, did it go out the window when you did the dirty with Sky?

No To Sky!

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Check out this link:



Im sorry its so late! I had started writing this post at 9am but then Tony Jardine started talking and well when I eventually woke up it was lunchtime! Im not sure if this is a skybet presentation but if not there is a hell of alot of "bet talk" going on. Odds on this odds on that, very little in the way of actual information. In the spirit of Sky, the odds of me watching this tosh? Hmmmmm about the same odds of Lord Lucan riding Red Rum to a Grand National win on Mars!

No to Sky, No to Tony Jardine and no to gambling!

At 11:41 12th Oct 2011, supermarketpeople wrote:

Bored of the 'No to Sky' tag; get over it and direct your enthusiasum towards the sport that you love, admire and couldn't do without.

Why don't your bosses at Sky like it ?

@Feldybhoy I've seen some of the current sky program, they do flog the sky bet stuff a lot, its shocking, I wonder why Tony Jardine said Vettel wouldn't win when he was romping away with the title???

@41. Just watched it, he was wrong about almost all of it. And is that a little Bias towards British drivers I see in there too? We wouldn't get that with the ´óÏó´«Ã½.

No To Sky.
No To Jardine.
No to ´óÏó´«Ã½ bonuses.
Yes to FTA.

the ´óÏó´«Ã½'s F1 coverage is award winning, and something they should have been proud of, certainly pround enough to keep it. and as pointed out at singapore the locals there would rather have our coverage than their own. given the choice I'd watch F1 on any channel, but next years option is pathetic in comparison.

No to Tony "i'm as dull as joy riding a Maxi" Jardine

Probably trying to get people to bet on other drivers. Ive noticed that Sky "pundits" do alot of this. If one team is odds on to win something the "pundits" will claim that there is x and y reason that they might lose and that its still worth a punt on z. I might just be paranoid but everytime I watch football or boxing on Sky they always give alot of reasons that the favourate might lose! Or it might just be that Tony Jardine knows very very little about F1! Lol

No to Sky!

Nice to see my other comments are being removed, if this continues I will be forced to take legal advice.

Tony "charisma King" Jardine is a legend. The guy knows nothing about what he is talking about but what annoys me most is his conviction. He is always adamant that he is right even though what he is saying is questionable.

I'd rather have Derrick Warwick present it, at least he knows what he is talking about and doesn't talk with a tone of voice that implies everything he says is FACT, and not open for discussion.

On second thoughts, Plankton or pond weed is more interesting than Tony "Blinky Bill" Jardine.

So has it been confirmed Jardine will be part of sky's line up next year?

I dont mind the NO TO SKY every week, and the continued protest - that does not bother me - what does bother me are the lame attempts at humor - oh i can see the pictures but the content must be on the sky page ha ha - GROW UP !

good choices Luizzi ! YES TO SKY !

Sorry to continue with the off topic discussion but SKY germany losing F1 is a shame for 1 reason. No more Tanja for Martin to flirt with on the grid. Other than that great that Murdochs rotten empire is losing F1.
I know Ill be cancelling my licence fee come the final race this year, I dont watch enough on TV besides F1 for me to keep paying it and who wants to watch highlights?

its sad that all everyone talks abut now is the bbc/sky deal (i am against it) it would be nice to know a real reason for them ruining formula 1 for loyal fans, also reasonably good choice by liuzzi

79 French......I was there!!!!!,
Great finish,poor circuit to view at,went three times,said each time i would not go back.
But Gilles still my all time great driver.
Will wait for full details from bbc on next years treats,what is shown live,how other will be shown,then look at freesat box,i have a second dish on side of house,so it could point a little different way to now.........
NO TO SLY,YES TO FTA..........

Great choices, anyone know if there is a page which has a list of all the Classic F1 videos?

No to sky

another week goes by and the new "sky sales team" (formerly the ´óÏó´«Ã½) still ignoring the off message voice of the fans.......

SHAME ON THE ´óÏó´«Ã½ - NO TO SKY & NO TO A TV LICENSE in 2011

@54 has all the direct links

Good choices by Liuzzi, hopefully we will see more of this feature next year - any idea of when the coverage details will be announced for next year, Andrew? I have a recurring nightmare of our coverage next year being fronted by Keith Huewen and Tony Jardine, with the corporate side of John Watson thrown in for good measure.

@51.Kryten

It's only a rumour based on the proposal to drop their interactive features for the rest of the season, the very same interactive features Sky UK will be trying to sell their coverage on ... Only 2.5% of Sky Germany F1 viewers ever try them out.

Excellent choices though we have had them before. Monaco the end of '82 is always suprising nomatter how many times I see it though! Does seem a pity that the full ´óÏó´«Ã½ archive is being overlooked for repeats but its still an excellent feature. Do hope it sticks around for next year. Will be just about the only ´óÏó´«Ã½ F1 worth watching.

no to sky.

@51 as far as im aware Murdoch only owns part of BSkyB (British Sky Broadcasting) and makes no money from the German version of sky TV.

No to Sky.

For a back of the grid driver he's probably picked the best selection this season.

To people saying 'No to SKY' - how about 'No' to you. This is about classic F1 races. If you still ain't happy with the ´óÏó´«Ã½ then write on a piece of cardboard and stand outside their building. But obviously you prefer to do your shouting from behind a keyboard.

Grow up.

i cant wait to read RTLs viewing figures next year their gonna think theyve won the lottery if eveyone in the UK who says their getting actually does get it and not bend over for sky

I have Sky but I have so many passionate F1 fan friends that do NOT I have to say I think it is terrible to put it on pay TV ....... perhaps it could be justified if you could have a full motorsport programme to explore ie WRC . DTM. Nascar ect but no you have to subscribe to ESPN for WRC another £10 a month consequently we are paying for a lot of golf, cricket and football we are not interested in ....... hmmmmm ´óÏó´«Ã½ what are you thinking :( it would be far better to let it go to channel 4 or 5 you have had amazing awesome coverage up until now but frankly I think you are letting the motor sport loving public down now shame on you ...... I am sorry I did not want my first post here to be negative but what choice do you leave us ?????

Big massive NO to Sky despite the fact I will be alright

´óÏó´«Ã½ = Shambles

No to sky
No to the tv license

On Radio4 today they said that ´óÏó´«Ã½ ITV C4 and C5 all pay Sky about £10 Million to put them on the Sky satalite and are about 50% of theSky content that is watched and if you add the rest of the teresteral chanels ´óÏó´«Ã½ 3 4 etc that is about 60% of skys watched output why !!!!
I think Sky should pay ´óÏó´«Ã½ etc to go on the satelite out of their vast profits filling the funding gap
who would have Sky without ´óÏó´«Ã½ etc

OOps forgot No to Sky

I just don't get it. The whole Sky/´óÏó´«Ã½ deal smells a bit funny to me. You'd like to think these people were listening wouldn't you? This Classic F1 feature seems to have been put out to pasture as well with the same races featuring on a regular basis. Good races they may be but a bit of variety never hurts. With the exception of some of the smug people who have Sky already, I've not seen a good word said about this "deal". But I fear for F1, that it will fade away like the boxing, tennis, golf, football, etc. Shame, was bloomin' brilliant while we had it.

No to Sky.

Nice choices, Brazil 03 is always good to see again for the drama.

Yes to Sky !

On satellite, cable and Freeview, they will be broadcast between first and second practice on Friday 14 October from 0335-0555 BST.

Wow classic gp's only on from 2hours before almost anyone is up. What a joke! whats even the point in having it? As if the TV licence isnt a big enough waste of money!

YES to sky. Roll on to there committed coverage in 2012 after ´óÏó´«Ã½ totally sold us sports fans out!

Good choice for the races.

Re Sky/´óÏó´«Ã½ it's pritty obvious that apart from the races declared the rest shown on the ´óÏó´«Ã½ will be the ones in the wee hours of the morning as Sky will want races that can be watched in the pubs.

Tretcherous deal and disgrace that no-one on the coverage will address this. I guess they're all sniffing around sky for big money deals and don't want to harm their chances.

It's a BIG topic and the fingures in ears 'la-la-la-we-can't-hear-you' approach is a pigging disgrace. I already have my German decoder and am ordering the satalite dish. Thanks a bunch for making me have to fork out for it, you bunch of muppets!

You can shove sky where the sun don't shine (that a better tag for you?)

Hi Andrew
On one of your past blogs you stated that the bbc did not practice censorship yet any post about how rtl is still free to air or and post detailing correspondence from Amp's is removed by the mods even if its on topic.

To the mods
Hi guys:) I know your all very excited that the race is in Korea this weekend but its in the south of the country not the north so no need to keep getting all kim jong ill on us every time we post something that you don't like.(i.e. freedom of speech or freedom of choice or anything that might show your bosses in a bad light)

Japan 2005 is the best race up there but we have seen it before so Im going to go with any of the other races.

No to sky

All the races have been shown before...

BUT

Why did the bbc block the channel 4 bid and insted braught sky to the table ??????????

Some nice choises there, obv there will be the same classic race choices over and over so i feel your pain Andrew having to find us fresh videos every week :)


No ot Sky

I am finding it hard to comment on classic races when I said 'great choice' last week to Webber. I see the logic of the choices, but it's looking like an empty excercise now.
I grew up watching them with Murray, followed Graham, Nigel and Damon, and all through the Schumacher years. Glorious.
For those who are interested, a very short businessman has commented that he will 'put a stop to that' when questioned about fans listening to 5 live whilst watching an 'alternative' broadcaster, and also RBS have published some crazy monetary/viewing figures praising the 'coup' S*y have pulled off. And it talks about nine races on ´óÏó´«Ã½ now, not ten. It has started already, watch the gods fall........

NO TO SKY

@ All the anti-Sky protestors complaining about moderation and mentioning "freedom of speech". You don't have "freedom of speech" in here. This blog is ´óÏó´«Ã½ property so the ´óÏó´«Ã½ are allowed to make the rules.

@ 74 Mr Excess

Didn't last long did it?

You couldn't resist getting involved, your like one of those people who for some reason deliberately holds views different from everyone else to wind them up. Commonly known as a WUM. Must be fun in the 'Baggage' household!!!

I see another sly sports person getting done for drink drive after a crash this morning on M4.....Does F.I.A really want F1 being handled by drunks?,not sending out a good road safety message..........
NO TO SLY/SPY
On topic,I still hate Dijon as circuit,79 French was classic finish......

@60. Well as much as I would love to go and bug the ´óÏó´«Ã½ outside television centre, I have to go back to work in an hour so no I can't do that whereas this takes a couple of seconds.

@74. Well we will see about that as the ´óÏó´«Ã½ is funded bt the public and as member of the public, I think I should be able to speak my mind. I have asked a good friend of mine who is a solicitor, to look over my comments and see if there is any justification in them being removed.

Oh and I forgot No To Sky!

@ Fantantonio. As many posters have noted already, the ´óÏó´«Ã½ have provided everyone with a complaints procedure to air their grievances and make them known to ´óÏó´«Ã½ management. This blog is not the most suitable place for protesting. Apologies if you fing my pointing that out to be inconvenient, but it doesn't really qualify me as a WUM.

@ BritishRacingGreen_No_To_Sky. You are able to speak your mind as a licence fee payer. The ´óÏó´«Ã½ hold consultations and provide means to submit feedback and complaints. I suggest that if you explored those legitimate avenues of commmunication there would be no need to waste your solicitor friends time. As for your removed comments, I'm sure the ´óÏó´«Ã½ can justify it. It's their house, so their rules apply and they are clearly published for everyone to see.

Morning Troll..

Four F1 races to go on ´óÏó´«Ã½, make the most of it, its F0.5 for 2012

No to F0.5

Thanks for the highlights as always ´óÏó´«Ã½

Its been a bit of a sad week, the last WDC we will all get to see properly for some time, So few people seem interested in getting sky (or have sky) in the F1 world, I really fear it will harm the sport.

Teams aren't going to stick around if no one is watching. I blame the ´óÏó´«Ã½ quite a bit for letting this happen but its also Bernie's fault. Is he trying to destroy F1 before he retires, make it look like he was the only one who could do it.

The deals a disgrace, NO TO SKY.

Power to the 6million F1 viewers

i know iit wont change anything but can someone tell me when the beeb are up infront of the politicians over this? as i very much doubt ill hear whats gone on here in the bubble of bbc world

No to highlights, no to selling the fans out, no to getting into bed with the Murdochs, no to blocking FTA deals and screwing over the license payer.

The sooner this deal is proven to be illegal the better.

No to Sky!

@ 79 Mr Excess

Has anyone got any toilet paper, Mr Excess's nose is very brown.

@59.BritishRacingGreen_No_To_Sky

News Corp' owns just under 50% of Sky Germany.

They even boast about it on their website, and the owning of BSkyB (Sky UK) and Sky Italia, and Rupert Murdoch is Chairman of the Board & Chief Executive Officer.

@79 - good point, fed up with this blog being a board of no to sky posts ! be good next year when this lot are not watching and wont have to put up with them !

Also Lewis Hamilton is not the best driver - not won the WDC sinc 2008 - Lewis fans get over it - Jenson is way better then him -

Hi Andrew!Thanks again for this and to Vitanio Liuzzi.Will try and watch tonight on Freeview between practices - my computer doesnt load video well if at all while using accessability technology!The 1979 French, 1982 Monaco were before my time while Japan 1989 i would of been too young for so these will definitely be a good watch!The other two i have seen but happy to watch again.Do struggle to keep up sometimes with just highlights though but maybe just me??Also wondered if any of the F1 fans here have seen this /blogs/aboutthebbc/2011/03/delivering-quality-first---exp.shtml as on that blog ´óÏó´«Ã½ promise not to make any cuts including to sports rights without public consultation first and would be transparent.Sorry for this bit if class as off topic Andrew.Feel free to delete but really i think F1 fans should have a chance to see what the ´óÏó´«Ã½ said publically and judge for themselves in the cicumstances in the ´óÏó´«Ã½ went against that with F1.Best wishes and again thanks for classic F1!

@87
Some might give up posting about it next year I wont Im here long term:D
@79 been there,done that and got the tee shirt just got the run around by the bbc so Im going for a more public protest:)

No to sky

john 66

I've not seen a good word said about this "deal". But I fear for F1, that it will fade away like the boxing, tennis, golf, football, etc. Shame, was bloomin' brilliant while we had it.
-------------------------------------------------------

Of course Football, the game that faded away, do they still play it these days?

Does anyone know of any F1 DVDs of old races that you can buy? Maybe compilations of the best races but so I can watch them in full?

Yes to RTL with 5Live

Tweet from Jake:

Seems #bbcf1 is globally famous. Signing autographs whilst walking around with a driver is just embarrassing, every country seems to watch!

Not next year they won't!!!

From next year Formula 1 will be known as Formula 0.5

Yes to Formula 1 on the ´óÏó´«Ã½
No to Formula 0.5 on the ´óÏó´«Ã½

As for viewership for F1 the Sun did an article on Football and since they switched from PPV to FTA in asia they saw an increase of over 11% immediately and profits jumped accordingly due to the extra exposure it received, How Bernie can not see this is just proof he is due for the glue factory :)

Don't forget

Thanks to Liuzzi for the choices. Very good ones at that, even if repeats.

Still echoing everyone else's comments - No to Sky!

The ´óÏó´«Ã½ are shameful in not even acknowledging the pages of complaints here!

Yawn ............. Get over it ........

@95 The short answer is "no".

The longer, more detailed answer is "not until we have found out the plans for coverage, not until we have seen if the deal is legal, and certainly not until the ´óÏó´«Ã½ at least acknowledge the annoyance and betrayal felt by loyal fans".

@ SirAdamOfWarburton. What you really mean is that you and the other unhappy bunnies are going to carry on mewling like children because you couldn't get your own way.

Great classics Tonio, still amazed by Alonso's pass on Schuey round the outside of
130R, Schuey looked broken straight after. While we're talking about classic F1, which are your favourites...

Excess Baggage - Classic F1 blog quotes: part I

1) "seems to me like a gross distortion of the facts and a massive over-simplification

to claim the ´óÏó´«Ã½ is only showing half a season of F1."

2) "In your eagerness to patronise me, you appear to have overlooked something quite fundamental. Luckily for you I was able to use my knowledge and prowess (sic) to work it out on your behalf."

3) "Sky taking the rights could be the best deal Bernie has ever done."

4) "I'm not going to repeat myself anymore because all my pleas and reasoning will be ignored anyway. "

5) "This next bit of advice is in no way meant to patronise you or come across as
sneering or condescending, but "

6) "The ´óÏó´«Ã½ haven't axed F1. They will still be showing it."

I also love the ZX Spectrum graphics in the Monaco 82 classic programme...

Excess Baggage - Classic F1 blog quotes: part II

7) "if I've managed to counter some of the incorrect assertions just enough that one neutral fan now stops to think with their head rather than their heart, even if just for a second, then I'll feel I've achieved something."

8) "I should point out that empty threats of ASBO's and jail sentences won't work with me."

9) "The matter of disrespect pertains to the en-masse spamming of the ´óÏó´«Ã½'s website output"

10) "the Concorde Agreement is super-confidential. Personally, I doubt it even exists."

11) "Your stance of watching F1 via internet streams probably won't affect Sky and will likely make even less difference to the overall scheme of things. That's because you will still be part of the audience"

12) "But of course, I could be totally wrong about all of that."

;)

@95 as you are on a F1 blog I think it would be safe to presume you are a fan of the Sport? if so do you not realise the damage the SKY deal will do to the sport in the UK?

Sky work on numbers and numbers only, if (which they will not) they don`t attract enough new subscribers to justify the F1 expenditure they will like other sports demote it's importance and considering the ´óÏó´«Ã½ can only show 0.5 of the races it will damage the sports following and ruin it for all in the UK.

Just to note I have SKY and Sports yet I am dead against this deal for the interest of the sport I have watched since being a kid (with my dad) and now watch with mt son and grandsons.