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Nick Reynolds Nick Reynolds | 01:06 UK time, Friday, 2 May 2008

from SecurityRatty [Correction 1243 - the comes from Stuart King at Computer Weekly].

"The ´óÏó´«Ã½'s Digital Media Initiative is perhaps the biggest change project on Little's agenda." From in IT Week about the ´óÏó´«Ã½'s Chief Information Officer, Keith Little.

"One in seven visits to online radio websites are to ´óÏó´«Ã½ Radio One" .

from .

The ´óÏó´«Ã½'s Dan Taylor tv character blogs. Dan's also created .

And finally, some people are passionately opposed to the ´óÏó´«Ã½ iPlayer's use of Microsoft Windows on its download service. So I was intrigued by this thread on the iPlayer message board. "smppms"'s anti-Windows arguments are comprehensively scrutinised by "The_Phazer".

Nick Reynolds is editor, ´óÏó´«Ã½ Internet Blog.

Comments

  • Comment number 1.

    'smppms' certainly made some errors of fact, but his core point is still good; the Windows iPlayer is a waste of money (what percentage of iPlayer usage was it again? About 10?), it does lock users into a proprietary platform, and it does support a convicted monopolist. The 'most people have Windows' argument completely misses the point - it's the fact that most people have to have it that makes it a monopoly in the first place.

    There's also the more basic principle that we now know that the underlying motivation for using Windows DRM was a mistake; the case made was that the rights holders wouldn't stand for the ´óÏó´«Ã½ making programmes available in a DRM free standard format. Now, thanks to the Flash iPlayer and the iPhone iPlayer, we know that actually, they will.

    The ´óÏó´«Ã½ has a responsibility to make it's services as widely accessible as possible, and a single, open, standard format would enable that by allowing players to be created for every platform. Windows included.

  • Comment number 2.

    It's interesting that rather than trying to further prevent the use of tools like xbmc-iplayer, the ´óÏó´«Ã½ instead invite its creator, David Johnson, to speak to staff.

    Obviously the ´óÏó´«Ã½ aren't going to be supporting this sort of thing, but this sends out the signal that it *is* acceptable. I for one would love to see an iPlayer plugin for MythTV or Front Row, for example.

    Sam

  • Comment number 3.

    "'smppms' certainly made some errors of fact, but his core point is still good;"

    No, it isn't.

    "the Windows iPlayer is a waste of money (what percentage of iPlayer usage was it again? About 10?),"

    So, used by a bigger percentage of the using population than all the non-Windows operating systems put together then. Are they a waste of money too?

    "it does lock users into a proprietary platform,"

    I think it's safe to say that "locking" users into a proprietary platform for all of the remainder of their seven days isn't very significant.

    "and it does support a convicted monopolist."

    Who cares?

    "The 'most people have Windows' argument completely misses the point - it's the fact that most people have to have it that makes it a monopoly in the first place."

    That's not really a point, more a whinge.

    "There's also the more basic principle that we now know that the underlying motivation for using Windows DRM was a mistake; the case made was that the rights holders wouldn't stand for the ´óÏó´«Ã½ making programmes available in a DRM free standard format. Now, thanks to the Flash iPlayer and the iPhone iPlayer, we know that actually, they will."

    No, they won't - that's rubbish. Streaming already has the best DRM in the world - it's streaming, and thus it expires the second the ´óÏó´«Ã½ takes it down. That IS DRM. No one has to the best of my knowledge managed to capture the Flash content yet. The ´óÏó´«Ã½ have take all the actions it can to stop the iPhone player being downloaded (as it is illegal to do so and puts the ´óÏó´«Ã½ in breach of it's licence conditions). The only reason the iPhone player streams in mp4 is because, used legitimately, there's no way on an iPhone to capture the stream.

    "The ´óÏó´«Ã½ has a responsibility to make it's services as widely accessible as possible, and a single, open, standard format would enable that by allowing players to be created for every platform. Windows included."

    No, it wouldn’t - because it's impossible rights wise. An open, standard format allows it to be captured, and if it can be captured easily the service gets a court injunction from rights holders that day shutting it down. That simple.

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