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The Dreaded Curse of the Thursday Night Out

Chris Evans | 13:35 UK time, Friday, 23 January 2009

Why do we do it...

Going out on a Thursday and suffering for it on a Friday is like sneaking a look at your Christmas presents. It's quite good fun at the time but it takes the shine of the day that's meant to be special

Rough? Yes, I am thank you. A couple of the gang took me out for a last hoorah before baby dj gets his little microphone out for the first time. Wife's full permission was secured of course before we ventured into the night.

As bad as I feel and I do feel particularly poor, I fear Nigel Barden, our Gastro-Gnome, must be feeling a hundred times worse. I went home with his keys, so he had to spend the night on a mate's floor and catch the 6 a.m. train so he could be home in time for the school run. Ouch!

Still nothing that a quick swim won't sort out.

I also ended up with a guitar in the boot of my car this morning, apparently it belongs to Morrisey's guitarist who has a gig in Portsmouth tomorrow and needs it back. Er... I really don't know how that happened.

So that's it then. After twenty odd years or so of tearing it up, my time is done.

It was a blast, I have no regrets and I'm not quite sure how I came through it alive but now it's someone elses turn. Good luck out there.

Right where's that lovely maroon cardigan I've been told about ?

CLP.

RETIRED UNHURT 23rd of Jan 2009.

X.

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  • Comment number 1.

    Am I first. If so Ia m so shocked I dont know what to say.

    ARF "Something in the air?

  • Comment number 2.

    Congratulations Chris,.

    get the beige out......

    I hope you manage to get through the show!

    hells x

  • Comment number 3.

    Oh and ARF

    The Firemen " dance till we're high"
    Please.

    We love Paul McCartney.

    Hellen Bach

  • Comment number 4.

    CLP - hope you enjoyed the night - the feeling rough should disappear so you can have one or two tonight!

    Super bp x

  • Comment number 5.

    Hope everything is OK when baby DJ decides to make an appearance.
    My daughter recently gave birth to our first grandchild, Ava Grace.
    Brought it all back to me. Been wearing slippers and smoking a pipe since. lol

  • Comment number 6.

    ouch indeed christophe.

    and is that was a "before" shindig, heaven fear what state you'll be in when it's time to wet baby dj's head!

    can i come??? ;-)

    So, morriseys guitarists' geetar eh? an omen for my ARF .....

    This Charming Man - The Smiths

    or

    Back In Black - AC/DC

    Gawjus man in LBD.

    Cheryl the Diva xxxx

  • Comment number 7.

    BAD HEAD CLP??????? sorry didn't mean to shout!!

    Beesmum xxx

    Beige indeed Hells he has now joined the club!!

  • Comment number 8.

    Chris, you're a good lad, and well done for many years battle behind the trenches. You will be noted in dispatches.

    I've just given up the fags after 15 years, and my days of waking up in foreign countries with the hangover from hell is also over.

    Nigey, nigey, nigey.....school run after a session? I've been there, not good is it? I feel your pain.

    On behalf of the lads, we salute you Chris, and Nigel, but please, retire with grace!!!

    Now, after the show, 2 beers and home, you'll feel better.

    Tobes

  • Comment number 9.

    Hells

    Any chance of the bloggers joining the togs for something in the future?

    just a thought ....

    Cheryl x

  • Comment number 10.

    Ah, CLP, that's where CtD, Hazel-Amour and I are lucky...

    we've never had to retire hurt or otherwise...

    rock-on sprog-less peeps!

    jx

    ps Mr R - No Country for Old Men is absolutely fabulous. Great film...

  • Comment number 11.

    CLP, You don't need to give in.

    Just do it less but do it bigger, I don't really do nights out since the Nippers turned up.

    We just plan better, start earlier and make it a whole day!

    It's not worth all of the hassle otherwise....Honest Dear!

    Anyway, what takes place of the High Jinx is just as much fun.

    Thinking of all three of you

    Ripples

    PS ARF: The Divine Comedy - Something for the Weekend

  • Comment number 12.

    Hi Cheryl

    that would be fun wouldn't it?

    Maybe something in the summer?

    Or perhaps a joint venture for CIN?

    I am working on an auction on Ebay at the moment.


    Hells x

  • Comment number 13.

    Jen

    Being sprogless - it's the future!!

    Rock n Roll!!!

    Cheryl xxx

  • Comment number 14.

    CiN, I guess Hells

  • Comment number 15.

    Thanks Jen #10.

    It's not me that needs convincing..Did you get all the way through Top Gun the other week?

    Ripples x

  • Comment number 16.

    Hi,

    Sounds like a great night to me. I could write a book of all the situations I have got myself into whilst under the influence, most of them harmless and very funny.

    Speaking of which, where can two 30 something yr old married ladies go for a 3 night break in June??? Thinking sunshine, beach, bit of nightlife and good food. Would love to go to Monaco/St Tropez/Nice area. Any suggestions welcome.

    Hope you are feeling better Chris, aren't hangovers awful! My husband wil never admit to a hangover,ever!

    Have a great weekend everyone.

  • Comment number 17.

    Perhaps for ARF:

    "Grandad!"

    Yo ho ho

    At least I make me laugh

    jx

  • Comment number 18.

    Mr R - not on your nelly!!! Tried 'Mamma Mia' on Monday night and that was dire!
    jx

  • Comment number 19.

    Oh Jen!

    Mamma Mia is supposed to be dire, that is its Brilliance.

    Oh well, you can't win em all.

    Ripples x

  • Comment number 20.

    Jen - meant to say - brilliant clip on previous blog.

    CLP Forget my previous ARF -

    I Feel Good - James Brown

    Beesmum xxx

    Hells/Cheryl as I'm a tog and going to a blog meet - does that make me first?

  • Comment number 21.

    Oh Beesmum,
    I didn't realise you had blog meets.. are they all over the country?

    That's great, I expect you will have a blogs convention soon too!

    Hells

  • Comment number 22.

    `My time is done'? I suspect not..., you've just reached the point where you'll be making `guest appearances' :-)

  • Comment number 23.

    Hells - Midlands one on 14th March Birmingham - London one 4th April full details on fb and if you are not on fb you soon will be - I got dragged kicking and screaming over by this lot!!!

    Bees xxx

    Just been outside and got my head blown off freezing cold wind and a right hooley
    My hair went flat
    Man I hate that!

  • Comment number 24.

    Hells

    March 14th - Birmingham
    April 4th - London

    You're more than welcome.

    Not sure if you're on FB but full details (and us lot!) are on CLP bloggers page.

    Cheryl xx

  • Comment number 25.

    Beezer!

    SNAP! xx

  • Comment number 26.

    Afternoon CLP

    ARF Please, please can we have Robbie Williams and No Regrets.

  • Comment number 27.

    Two of a Kind
    tra la la lala laaaa

    Bees xxx

  • Comment number 28.

    Post #13

    Obviously sprogless is not the future, not for the human race at least!

  • Comment number 29.

    Forgot to say congrats to grandpa Thunderclap

    10 & 13 - me too Jen Cheryl !!!

    Is it time for FNWC yet? who can annoy now...........

    Beesmum xxx

  • Comment number 30.

    I annoy now even ?

    B xx

  • Comment number 31.

    Yep, I think I must have become a Toggy Blogger, but I don't understand much about FB, so please bear with me.

    Hells

  • Comment number 32.

    We will Hells, we will!

    Not sure if I'll make FNWC* tonight - we've got a meeting at the parish council offices ab out forming an allotment society!

    Get me!

    Then it's the CBB final. I could, if in the house alone, watch CBB and blog and partake in FNWC all at once, but alas Mr Diva sees laptop out and immediately puts on the PS3. Boooooooo!!

    * Hells (and any other newbies) FNWC is Friday Night Wine Club. Often raucous, often rambling but always fun! And despite the "night" bit, it odt begins as CLP goes on air at 5.05. When I'm still at work.

    Double Booooooooooooooo!

    Cheryl x x x

  • Comment number 33.

    Hi Hellenbach - I'm also a TOG and a Drivetime Blogger.

    Pride of place in my glass cupboard is a CiN Pudsey TOG bear - many thanks for sending it and the bandaged cd plus the Janet and John ones over the past years.

    ARF:

    Scenes from an Italian Restaurant by Billy Joel (the red wine, white wine bottle song)



    To Badger via HL and Mariella who share my birthday date tomorrow - all the best for whatever you are planning on doing or not doing.

  • Comment number 34.

    Don't start making excuses now Cheryl.

    Be a man, join the FNWC.....

    There'll be a couple of bottles of plop in it for ya!!!

    Tobes

  • Comment number 35.

    Phoenix!

    Have a fab birthday tomorrow and be gentle with the lifeboat men!

    Cheryl xx

  • Comment number 36.

    Tobes darling

    Distict lack of lovespuds for me to even pretend to cross-dress.

    will see what i can do - depends if i survive the riot that will be the allotment meeting!

    Chezza

  • Comment number 37.

    Oooooooooh, a punch up between the spuds and parsnips. I'd pay to see that!!

    Tobes

  • Comment number 38.

    Chris,

    A leopard cannot change its spots! Certainly, you will be off the radar for a while, but you will definitely have more crazy nights out in the future!

    Day after the night before: I have never found anyone's keys nor indeed a guitar in my possession, but I remember going into our local after a bit of a "session" in there the previous night. Hair of the dog, that was the ticket, and it was all going well until the barmaid came up to me and said "how are you doing? You were fantastic last night when you insisted that the entire bar join in as you sang Wonderwall"!!! Oops, no recollection, none!

    Hope everyone has a good weekend - enjoy - it will be gone in a flash!

    C xx

    PS Happy Birthday Badger!

    PPS Happy Birthday for tomorrow Mariella!

  • Comment number 39.

    and Happy Birthday for tomorrow Phoenix!

    Lifeboat Men?!

    C xx

  • Comment number 40.

    Anyone got SW on? This has got to be one of my fave Beatles songs.

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

    Nothing's gonna change my world ..!

  • Comment number 41.

    And why does this song (DSMN) make me grin like a bloody cheshire cat and think of you lot???

  • Comment number 42.

    oooh sorry pheonix I missed you out earlier... Happy Birthday for tomorrow!

    Dragonxx

  • Comment number 43.

    'Cause we is great oh Divaski :)

    Tobes

  • Comment number 44.

    Thanks Chrissie and PurpleDragon.

    Why when the sun comes out over Bournemouth does the rain come down as well ??

    Hi PP sorry to hear of the extortionate pricing for your bidet accessories.

    Good afternoon to everyone else - sorry can't hear the radio as not allowed here in work.

  • Comment number 45.

    We'll have to tell you whats on Phoenix !! Sweet home Alabama blaring in office at mo!!! Happy birthday for tomorrow

    Beesmum xxx

  • Comment number 46.

    Greetings and salutations from Vancouver...

    Thursday night intoxication, it's a classic case of the forbidden fruit scenario. I hate to sound so downright theological about it, but such a comparison I fear to be my only and most accurate recourse. As one pint turns into two and two into three, the cerebral pendulum swings to a rhythm.

    We know we should arrest the flow of libations, but oh how sweet they are, knowing as we do that really, we should wait until Friday and avoid the perils that await...We've all done it and we will, no doubt, though not frequently, do it again. How intricate and amusing the human condition truly is.

    As Oscar said, "Work is the curse of the drinking classes"

    Fortunately, my evening of piquant potations is this one. And I shall enjoy it immensely. Hiking round a simply enchanting lake tomorrow (after the obligatory lie in and fry up, of course...I'm not an animal) then an evening in with Mr. Malbec and a suitably engaging movie. Bliss.

    To one and all, have a frisky, fruitful, favourable, enchnating, exquisite, invigorating and resoundingly pleasurable weekend.

    Dr. T.

  • Comment number 47.


    Oh Oh I can't stop

    But Happy Birthday to Phoenix Mariella and HL's Badger and his shirt.

    Phoenix I only wish I had the visit from Dxxxxx bathrooms on video. You know the type on TV 's Rip Off.

    Imagine a whole 50% off 46 thousand for a bath, loo and basin and he said I could have a tooth brush holder for extra. Kept me laughing all day.






  • Comment number 48.

    Ahhh! as said previously... wait until the head wetting! A serious session up here.... One of Mr. Egg's pals is organising a Bus trip/pub crawl (well there is about 7 miles between pubs around here!!!) Kick off 3 in the afternoon make your own way back from final destination - night club closing at 1.30am!

    Then you have the christening.......intermittant hogmany's....then before you know it they are 17 and a condition of getting a car is to become YOUR taxi!!!! Followed by 18th!

    Retirement my donkey!

    Quack

  • Comment number 49.

    Loved the Springsteen at 5.05 - bought back memories of last May at The Emirates! Sadly didn't hear who chose it as Lady Boss was chatting ... GRRRRRR!

    xxxx

  • Comment number 50.

    DrT - and back to you, have a great weekend. How was the birthday?

    Chris.....used to love Thursday nights, oh how Fridays were a mess at work. It won't be too long before 'tash and you are out again. Have to say I adore being a daddy, it hasn't spoiled my life at all, only enhanced it. I appreciate it's not for all, but for me.....well it's my utopia x

    Have a lovely weekend

    bonnet de douche

    KWx

  • Comment number 51.

    Gingembre,

    Great post, and I concur. Well said my friend.

    Tobes

  • Comment number 52.

    Who would have thought 10 / 15 years ago that Chris and Wogan would have a cross over audience!!!!!! Wonders will never cease.

    Cardi's - OK, Zip up slippers - forgivable

    Just, whatever you do, please do not be tempted by Moleskin Trousers (Wogan/Points of View/Nightmares!)

    Good luck for Mini DJ

    Off home

    Quack

    ;-{ still no Alaska by Tiny Spark - Boo hoo

  • Comment number 53.

    Evening each

    Chris, how very daring of you, necking it while Tash is so close to giving birth. What if it had happened last night? Doesn't bear thinking about. Well, it does really, would have been a very funny tale to tell!!

    Diva: I do not ramble and I am never raucous in the FNWC. Bite your tongue.

    Gingembre: I so agree with the children utopia. I really enjoyed my 3 kids, especially when they got to the 'kevin' teenage years. And now they are adults, I aspire to be as nice as them. And - they have given me my gorgeous little boys. I even like their partners!

    Back later, have loads of people to thrash on FB.

    btw: Heavy snow forecast for here on Sunday - when all my offspring are visiting. Bums.

  • Comment number 54.

    Well, Gingembre, it was simply idyllic.

    The pure, incomparable experience of dog sledding in the valleys beyond civilization in British Columbia is something it is difficult to fully convey in words; crisp sunshine complimenting the -6 temparature, magnificent dogs just aching to run, the primal nature of such a mode of transport and a beautiful is incredibly inspiring. If any of you ever get the chance to do it, please do, it is something you will, without exception, enjoy from start to finish.

    Add to that a great night of Tapas, fine wine and a warm, fire-warmed lodge and you have quite the weekend...

    Dr. T

  • Comment number 55.

    Dr T,

    I have indeed 'done it', and fully concur with all you have said. Only difference is I 'did it' 4 times in Lapland, so more a -26 than -6, and the sun only paid a very very brief visit of about 10 minutes each tme.

    Oh, and we had wood burner cook yourself frankfurters, warmed biscuit and hot chocolate in a kota, covered with reindeer skins.

    Its hotter in a kota, you know!

    MW, a!

  • Comment number 56.

    So has FNWC started yet gang?

    CLP I hate that feeling when you have to go to work after a boozy night out. Stick to Friday's from now on, but you have 'wetting the baby's head' to look forward to yet :-)

    Nice post Gingembre, being a mum is the best/hardest/scariest thing that I have ever done. Would I change it? Never.

    The love that I get from my kids is priceless and I am grateful for it every, single day.

    So here's looking forward to the weekend, hope it's a good'un.

    Debbie x

    PS: Sorry PP I totally misunderstood a previous post of yours regarding you having another dog.

  • Comment number 57.

    Delightful, Mariella. Having "done it" many times now, I am already chomping at the bit for the next time. Hota in a Kota you say? Sounds rather intriguing.

    Dr. T

  • Comment number 58.

    Hi Chris, did you say "before the baby dj gets HIS little microphone out?"
    Good luck anyway.

    Ta ta Lin x

  • Comment number 59.


    I'm not sure Dr T is talking about Dog Sleddin at all really or then again.....

  • Comment number 60.

    Debbie don't worry I have my memories.

  • Comment number 61.

    "So has FNWC started yet gang?"

    Yes, Debbie. Well it has here. How are you today?

    Dr.T, you sound like a good man to spend a weekend with. Fresh air, action, nature at its best, good company, good friends, food and wine, and a whole lot of fun, all told.

    You enjoy your weekend my man.

    Best of days, as always.

    Tobes



  • Comment number 62.

    Cheers Tobes. You have a suitably splendid weekend yourself.

    Though I am thoroughly British, living in Vancouver makes it virtually impossible not to indulged in the outdoor opportunities that this beautiful region affords on my doorstep.

    There is something, as I am sure you will agree Tobes, incredibly satisfying about a day in the great outdoors and a rewarding evening with the aforementioned fine wine, food and great company.

    Now, just 5 hours until my first mid-afternoon pint...not that I am counting...

    Dr. T.

  • Comment number 63.

    Hurray for FNWC!

    Hi Tobes, not bad now after another slightly mad day.

    Looking forward to JR back on the box tonight, even if the newspapers have almost told us word for word what is said in the whole show.

    Debbie x

  • Comment number 64.

    Sorry how rude of me. Good evening Dr T, nice to see you back here again, enjoy that first pint, it's the best.

    And Tobes I didn't ask how you are today, what am I like!

    Debbie x

  • Comment number 65.

    Oooo, love the Strolling Bones!!!! Reminds me of my youth.

    Right, off to read all your posts.

    xxx

  • Comment number 66.

    Yes, FNWC has officially started. I have my glass of red to hand.

    Debbie: Me too re JR.

    Dr. T - well, hallo again. Hope you are well. I presume Scotland is rather gentler than Vancouver, but know what you mean. My heaven is walking round Rothiemurchus, nr Aviemore. Heaven in a basket.

    xxxx

  • Comment number 67.

    Thank you for your kind comments SP

  • Comment number 68.

    #62

    Dr.T, I understand fully. As I said this time last week, I've never experienced Canada, but it is on my list of 'places to do before I die'. Akin, obviously, to 'racetracks I want to do before I die'. Same theory, same gut feelings.

    Mid afternoon pint? Why not. I've got a nice bottle of wine open at 9.09pm. I have no snow, however. I'm envious.

    You take full advantage my friend.

    Debbie, I'm good thanks. Staying off the nasty weed, which is like water torture, but well worth the effort. Been quiet today actually. It will pick up for me closer to the racing season, with them there dirty bikes.

    How's things with the small people?

    Right, glass of red and no ciggies, I promise.

    Tobes

  • Comment number 69.

    That should have said 19.09pm. Thanking you ´óÏó´«Ã½.co.uk for your lapse in broadband civility.

    We will survive :)

    Tobes

  • Comment number 70.

    My MiL has friends out in Canada and she goes out there almost every year. She's taking the teen out there this time. Her friends have a house by a lake and it sounds amazing.

    They can't leave there house at the moment though because they are snowed in.

    Tobes, it must be like once you say you are going on a diet all you think about is food. Or is that just me? Mind over matter my friend.

    One small person watching Mary Poppins on the sofa, the other out with mates somewhere and husband ETA 10 minutes.

    Off for a glass of the red stuff, a nice cabernet sauvignon. Back soon.

    Debbie x


  • Comment number 71.

    Right-o,

    That me face done, hair done, twins on display, suited and booted and starving hungry.

    Bring on the pancakes!

    As Dook would say -

    Quack!

    MW, a!

  • Comment number 72.

    Tobes: so glad you corrected your timescale. Was a bit worried about you. Bottle open at 9 in the morning????

    xxx

  • Comment number 73.

    A pedant writes -

    9.09pm is not 9 in the morning.

    19.09pm is a mixture of the 12 and 24 clocks

    The bottle in question was opened at 7.09pm or 19.09.

    The big question, however, is when said bottle will be empty.

  • Comment number 74.

    I stand corrected New Kid.

    xx

  • Comment number 75.

    Annie...wasn't it you who inveted liquid paper...?

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Boom Boom.

    Dr. T.

  • Comment number 76.

    Of course, I meant "invented". Oops a daisy.

    Dr. T.

  • Comment number 77.

    Correct Debs, mind over matter.

    It ain't easy, but the answer is I (and whomever) should never have started smoking in the first place. Hard words, with hindsight, but true nonetheless.

    Annie, I did say 9.09pm, so I was two hours in advance. My bad.

    9.09am? I think not. My god, I like a glass of red with dinner and a chat with good people such as yourselves, but in the A.M.?

    Not in this life.

    Tobes

  • Comment number 78.

    My spelling has gone to pot also looking at my post, and before a glass of wine!

    I stopped smoking when pregnant with LM and he was the best reason to not start again afterwards.

    If you want to do something badly enough, you can do it. Something I tell myself every day.

    Off for a nice, lavender bath before setting myself before the tv. With sausage sarnies, have a fancy for them tonight.

    Debbie x

  • Comment number 79.

    Looks like we all lost the spelling, punctuation and time 'plot' this evening. Never mind, we know what we meant.

    Tobes

  • Comment number 80.

    Wish me luck gang. Firstly it's the weekend, normally a disaster here. Secondly, LM banged his head (big bump) he has a cold (boy flu) and Mr Debbie is about to take him to bed. Not sure who is playing up the most!

    Back later. x

  • Comment number 81.

    First FNWC for a while - a toothesome Pinotage Shiraz since you ask.

    An earlier post mentioned coming home a 1.30 after the night clubs closed.

    Things have changed slightly, had a "discussion" with the 17yo last week.

    Him :Its M's 18th tonight.

    Us : Ok, be home by 2 (am) then.

    Him : What the @$£* are you on about, I'm not coming home when the pubs shut, we're going to a club. I'll be home a 4.

    There followed a full and frank exchange of views which ended with him agreeing to be home by 2.

    Result we thought.

    Fast forward to 2.10 (am)........

    My mobile rings

    Sorry Dad I'm late, just getting in the taxi now.

    Thanks for that, mate.

    He then comes in and cooks a pizza before crashing upstairs to bed .

    All in would have been better off letting him stay out.

  • Comment number 82.

    Soz went a bit Bingo there!

  • Comment number 83.

    TTT: Teenagers are just lovely, eh? Mine were absolutely horrid, one of them even had a gun!!!! Not a real one, I hasten to say, but it looked very real when I confronted it in my pj's.

    My 3 are now very nice, grown up people, 2 of them with children, the other one hoping for a child this year.

    Hang on in there, they will grow up and go with a bit of luck.

    (oh, and the youngest had optics screwed into the wardrobe door). Classy.

    xxx

  • Comment number 84.

    Where is FNWC? First time been on for a while. Esp with gls of red at my side! (although no a while since had gls of red by my side!)

    PP - saw a fabulous car in sainsbug car park this aft that I thought was perfect for you. If I knew how to work my mobile camera and download would have taken a pic. Real nice colour of plum chrysler van shape with private plate P1 LUM!!! How cool I thought....if you were the owner!!

    Debs you sound much better, not read all of last few weeks blogs, but you seem to have been bit low. You have my sympathy and hugs. Been struggling bit too. Just got told today that didn't get a job was more or less told few weeks ago was mine( that CC is a *** nuisance!) And obv not too many other around.

    Anyway, focus, focus and keep on positive smiley face!!!

    Please can someone tell me with a lovely 15 year old daughter who has been in first 'proper' relationship for around 6/7weeks....should i be worrying?! I am just about to have the 'chat' although she has had the chat many time and so i'm nt worried about the 'chat' just that perhaps I am tempting fate or indeed placing ideas where there may be none....naive/stupid?! Ahhhh, teenangers are tough!

    dreamer
    xxxx

  • Comment number 85.

    Annie

    I live in hope.

    He now has offers from three universities, so at long last he is putting in the work for his A levels, not too late I hope.

    Kids are so different, the 16yo is probably the most mature person in the household.

    We reckon he must have swapped at birth and there is a family of high achievers somewhere in this town with a 16yo caner.

  • Comment number 86.

    And the boy is 16 going on 17......cue a musical number....?

    dreamer
    xx

  • Comment number 87.

    More like 16 going on 32!

  • Comment number 88.

    Ted,

    I don't know the specifics of your life, nor would I pry, but from what you typed, you dealt with it well.

    17 years of age? I vaguely remember being 17 myself, and through all the changes the world has seen in 20 years, the basics don't change.

    Softly, softly catchy monkey. Hard when you need to be, understanding and trusting, and at times you have to fly by the seat of your pants.

    My girls (twins) are 9 years old, so I have all that to come. Girls probably a whole different kettle of fish when it comes to clubbing and late nights. All you can do is be there and try and guide them.

    I'm a single daddy, so I'm a tad strict with them, only because I know what young lads can be like. I used to be one. God forbid :)

    It's a minefiled, but you hang on in there buddy. Sounds like you can talk to each other, and when you have that, you have a common ground to work from, and work towards.

    For each situation, for each family, there is a way to get it done. Each to their own, as the old saying goes. He'll be right mate.

    He came home. Sure, he cooked a pizza late at night, maybe some ale talking, but he came home, and what's a late start pizza in the grand scheme of things?......

    .......nothing really, is it?

    Good luck fella. You'll do fine.

    I got a nice bottle of Montepulchiano on the go that I got from Italy last year. I saved it. Normally it would be accompanied by a packet of ciggies. However, I am doing just the wine. This is when I miss the fags (no jokes please) but I'm doing the quitting hard style.

    These things are sent to test us my man.

    All the best friend.

    Tobes

  • Comment number 89.

    TTT/Dreamur: Yes, really need to have 'the chat', even at 15. I trapped mine for the chat: Son no.1 - in the bath, daughter - in the back of the car in George St, Edinburgh, son no.2 - bought a book. Was fed up with it by then. And, as i worked with young people and had access to family planning stuff - I gave them a pile of condoms. They were soooo embarrassed. But, it has to be done.

    You just have to keep talking to them, and telling them that you don't have all the answers, but you love them dearly. Even though they are absolute swines!!!!!

    xxx

  • Comment number 90.

    Sorry Ted,meant the boy in my daughter's life at the moment.....so hopefully he's definitely NOT 16 going on 32.......!!!!!

    Anyway, coming in just after you asked and cooking up some pizza sounds like a fine young man....we must all remember how we were in our youth!!

    dreamer
    xx

  • Comment number 91.

    Second all you said Tobes. We've all been young and daft. And, hopefully when you've got kids, you remember.

    xxxx

  • Comment number 92.

    Sooo funny Annie!!! Yeah I guess I knew but thank you for confirming!! No-one ever told you this when you decided to have a family..... ironic!!

    dreamer
    xxxx

  • Comment number 93.

    It's a bloody minefield Dreamur. Just keep hold of your sense of humour. And remember how you felt when you were that age.

    xxxx

    Promise - they will turn out ok.

  • Comment number 94.

    Now people, this has nothing to do with imbibing wine on a Friday night.

    But - why do Easyjet not confirm bookings??

    Apparently I have booked 2 flights to London from Edinburgh for the bloggers meet on 4 April. Huge Bottoms!!!!!

    Anyone need a seat on a plane? Leaving from Edinburgh on Friday 3 April, returning Monday 6th.

    xxx

    Stupid, grumpy old woman

  • Comment number 95.

    Tobes

    Perhaps you should talk to Mrs Ted.

    I feel very hypocritical dressing down the lad when he is only doing what I was doing at his age.

    My favourite was fish finger sandwiches at 3am after more beer than was strictly necessary.

  • Comment number 96.

    Ted,

    As I said, it isn't my place to comment on your life directly mate. I'd never do that.

    A mother's take on things is clearly (in my opinion) different from a father's.

    Remember the old, men are from mars, women from venus scenario? It's there for a reason. If both sexes were the same, life would be damn boring.

    Men and women are from different spectrums, and if you can find a partner that you can meet in the middle, then fair play to you. Life was never meant to be easy.

    However, with all that said and done, as you said, you were a 17 year-old lad once upon a few decades ago (I'm kidding).

    If there was a parents handbook at the ready, we would all be on a beach in Antigua (the adults) and leave the kids at home safe in the knowledge they would be right as rain. Sadly, no cigar man.

    All part of life's rich pageant, or was that the just a title of an R.E.M. album? :)

    If I had the answers, I'd be a rich man. Mum's have a sixth sense, yet boys need their Dad's.

    I have girls, so wish me luck ;p

    You'll be fine.

    Tobes

  • Comment number 97.

    It is actually a fair few decades since I was 17.

    Although, it has been said that I'm still to reach that level of maturity.

    If boys can be hard work, I can only guess at what girls would be like?

    As you say, there can be no hard and fast rules. You just have to go with your natural feelings, set the best example that you can and trust in your kids.

    Quite honestly the rest is in the lap of the gods.

  • Comment number 98.

    Tobes/TTT: Rather nice reading your posts about your children.

    My husband (ex), the father of my 3 children, really didn't understand them or take an interest in them. Really nice reading your posts. You are both obviously interested, involved parents. And your children are lucky to have you.

    xxx

  • Comment number 99.

    Any room for a diva!?

  • Comment number 100.

    Annie,

    You try telling that to my girls when they want to go to the youth club at nine years of age because the boys there look like this Troy character from High School Musical.

    It's getting to that time of life.

    All I had was Saturday Morning Swapshop with Noel Edmonds and my Dad sat on the sofa lusting after Maggie Philbin. The silly man :)

    Tobes

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