Increase in spoilt papers
- Brian Taylor
- 4 May 07, 12:47 AM
Big number of spoilt papers in Motherwell and Wishaw under the new counting system.
Some 970 invalid papers, that's 3.7% of the system.
Much more than usual in the past.
Douglas Alexander, the Scottish Secretary, says he has already requested an inquiry into apparent problems getting postal ballots out to voters.
Maybe a wider inquiry will now be needed.
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I dont think the new way of voting has been positive with the amount of differences
Isn't it about time we came up with a system to allow voters to enter their votes electronically? Would certainly put an end to all this waiting around! Although in saying that, the current governments record of producing good IT systems isnt great.
I've always though that the numbers of spoilt papers should be both counted and published within the election results because spoiling a ballot is a valid methd of protest - you're saying "I'm not apathetic, I went to the polling station but there was nothing there for me".
But it does seem like a big percentage - too much for all to be protest votes.
If this is the rate on the FPTP ballot, the rate on the STV council vote could be massive.
Too many changes, not nearly enough publicity/explanations.
I have only just found out by watching TV and reading that my vote will be classed as spoiled ... I think.
i put an "X" on every ballot , i didnt put 1 , 2 ,3 on any .... i whizzed in to pollin #g station at 9.30 this morning , didnt read anything , simply chose the "logos" i liked :-) , and marked them with "x" ... one "x" on each ballot ......... mmmmmmm ...... so will my X be classed as a spoiled vote ?
PAUL
If it wasn't broke why did they try to fix it. Fix it? Hanging chads come to Lanarkshire.
What was Jack on in that interview. He seemed to slow down for a couple of seconds. Think all these years of vacant answers have took there toll. I think Jack will crack tonight. Do a Colin Fox and jump round the room :s
I resent the ageist comment about the 18 year old candidate needing his parent's permission - maybe in his old age he forgot his manners?
Jamaica voted yesterday. They too are facing new 'behaviours' associated with the ballot. One report says that folks used camera phones in the booth to record their vote then show it to folks outside the polling station to prove they voted the right way and to collect their bung.
Kelvin just announced over a thousand spoiled ballots. That's quite ridiculous. But not a surprise - I had to get a second paper after I put a cross for my council vote (I would have been okay if I'd just left it at that though).
Totally agree about the electronic voting - how do you get lazy voters to vote? Easy - bring it into their own home. Let's make voting easier than voting for X-Factor or a 大象传媒 online poll.
1000+ spoilt votes in Glasgow Kelvin!
Huge amounts of rejected papers coming in at all these votes now, 1000+ . This is well out of line. How many of these were valid votes rejected by the machines? This is not on.
I didn't vote for anyone in my constituency, but voted in my region.
do you think the non-vote in the constituency will count as a spoilt ballot?
spoiled papers could simply be a result of electronic counting machines not being able to read them. They would need to go through them and check - and if people used the 1,2,3 they should take the 1 as their vote.
i am of the opinion that there are so many spoiled papers due to the lack of information about the new voting system.
I made sure i found out about how to cast votes however i folded both ballots. information should have been more widely avaliable regarding this major change
Paul,
A single 'X' on the council ballot paper will be treated as a '1' for that candidate.
It will not be classed as spoiled.
Graeme ...
i would say morally you are correct ... peoples intentions by putting an X should be treated as a 1 ... HOWEVER its pretty clear from all these spoilt papers that this is not being taken as the case ?
?
PAUL
to Paul :
all your votes should count - the X will still be counted as a 1 vote for your candidate on the council vote.
the electoral commission have guidance on their website which shows how and why to reject or accept votes if people do something wrong.
There does seem to be an unusually high proportion of spoilt papers. The big increase must be down to either the electronic system or confusion over the voting system. Whatever it is it needs to be addressed especially if there are a lot of very close results...
How difficult is it to mark X on a piece of paper? But remember - you can never underestimate the intelligence of the British public. Proof? Look at the tripe they watch on TV and the "newspapers" they read.
GUys I understand what both of you are saying ..but why such a stupidly high number of rejected votes ..anniesland just announced and another 1000 rejected papers ...almost 5% of the vote ..................
I think as the night goes on your going to find the electrol officers were counting "X"s as incorrectly filled and rejecting them .... theres no other explanation for usch a huge rejection rate
PAUL
In many of the interviews of voters, people have said that they are going to spoil the constituency vote and only vote in the region. Could this be the reason for the high number of spoiled votes?