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Devonwall - the final score

Graham Smith | 09:30 UK time, Wednesday, 3 November 2010

The Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill got its third and final reading in the House of Commons last night with a government majority of 57. Ayes 321, Noes 264. of the measure which will abolish Cornwall's political border with Devon.

Apart from the potential for embarrassing the MPs, does it matter? I think the answer is that potentially, yes it does, and the MPs themselves recognised this in their failed attempts to amend the Bill. The reasons have nothing (or very little) to do with nationalist sentiment but are rooted in hard-nosed economics.

For more than a decade now, Cornwall has been able to draw upon a huge treasury of European economic aid. A pre-condition for securing this aid had been Cornwall's "divorce" from Devon, for statistical purposes, to present a greater contrast between rich and poor parts of the Cornwall and Devon economic areas. As a result, Cornwall's Members of Parliament had been able to make a much more coherent case.

Similarly, Business Secretary Vince Cable has just approved a new Local Enterprise Partnership for Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly to take over the economic regeneration responsibilities held formerly by the South West Regional Development Agency. The new LEP may well find that in the months and years ahead it is competing for funds with similar organisations in Plymouth and the rest of Devon. Any MPs with a foot each side of the Tamar will consequently find their jobs much more difficult and constituents in both Cornwall and Devon risk losing out.

A final thought on Devonwall, which has consumed far too much of this blog since I first wrote about it on 2nd June - hardly a word has been heard about the thing which was supposed to be really important, the referendum on the Alternative Vote system. Polling day is only six months away.

Comments

  • Comment number 1.

    "A final thought on Devonwall, which has consumed far too much of this blog"

    A good day for democracy which will bring a much welcome cost saving

  • Comment number 2.

    I, for one, will not be sorry to hear the end of this saga.

  • Comment number 3.

    'which will abolish Cornwall's political border with Devon'.

    That statement and conclusion is not as definitive and foregone as you appear so eager to claim, Mr Smith.

    There are many factors, influences and considerations that may yet well lead to an outcome that respects the border and communities of Cornwall & Scilly and maintains the parliamentary constituencies within the territorial border between Cornwall & Scilly and England.

  • Comment number 4.

    Who would have guessed the whips would keep order?

    Personally I feel what they are trying to do is fair but could have gone much further and removed more MP's, maybe next time.

    Slim – Surprise surprise, can you not find any minorities to tease up in Emmetshire?

  • Comment number 5.

    Graham Smith:-
    "Apart from the potential for embarrassing the MPs, does it matter? I think the answer is that potentially, yes it does, and the MPs themeselves recognised this in their failed attempts to amend the Bill. The reasons have nothing (or very little) to do with nationalist sentiment but are rooted in hard-nosed economics."
    At last, wise words that, I fear, will be completely ignored by some.
    However, the bill is not yet "Law", and still has some way to go, does it not?

  • Comment number 6.

    "Tease", Andrew?

    How rude!

    Debate and argue "black was white", yes.

    But "tease"? Heaven forfend!

  • Comment number 7.

    Slim keep up the good work.

    But no awards for valour just yet, the prize is handed out to those who find something the nationalists are not offended by. Isn't it hilarious how we have been pointed out for weeks this was a financial decision and now slippery claim's he did LOL

  • Comment number 8.

    I am extremely pleased that Kernow is to receive her own Development Agency. I am also pleased to be in receipt of communication from many including Labour Peers that this Devonwall proposal is likely to be subject to much variation and political in fighting in the Lords. Amusing in a way but it still has a long way to go. Kernow bys vykken !

  • Comment number 9.

    I do find it funny that some Cornish media ask Mr Cole about this vote and yet MK have how many MP's.

  • Comment number 10.

    Andrew Jacks wrote:-
    "I do find it funny that some Cornish media ask Mr Cole about this vote..."
    Why, MK presents itself as "The Party for Cornwall", Why shouldn't the Cornish media seek the views of such a party?

    Andrew Jacks wrote:-
    "....and yet MK have how many MP's."
    What has that got to do with it?
    MK, whether you like it or not, contest parliamentary seats in Cornwall, a "Devonwall" constituency is naturally one that they would have an opinion on, and it is also true to say that they would also have an opinion on the proposed PR system, and referendum. Being a legitimate, legal, Political party in Cornwall, their opinion has as much validity as any other parties.

  • Comment number 11.

    Andrew said - I do find it funny that some Cornish media ask Mr Cole about this vote and yet MK have how many MP's.

    Because he views it as exposure, it does not matter to him that the stories are always showing him seeking to divide Cornwall and England. His failure to link that with his showing in the recent general election is his problem

  • Comment number 12.

    Is the main cause of your fixated and apparently quite bitter obsession, 'Peter Tregantle', that you wish the Duchy to be assimilated into England (even though that is currently not constitutionally possible) and you have problems accepting the views of those who know the facts and state them?
    At least your implicit acknowledgement above that Cornwall and England are distinct entities may be indicative of some slight orientational progress.

  • Comment number 13.

    Mr Smith, you've appeared overeager to pronounce 'final score' from the very beginning of your 'reporting' on this matter. As you should know better, there is, in terms of the facts and terms of parliamentary process, some considerable way to go.

    When set in the context of the Liberal Democrat and Conservative Party's three line whips there was, in fact, a very significant rebellion of 18 Conservative and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government MPs on the amendment vote of November 1st. Here are all those significant Conservative Party and Liberal Democrat Party rebels :

    (It would be surprising if the ´óÏó´«Ã½ moderators disallow that parliamentary link)
    Could it possibly be that members of the House of Lords will display yet greater independence of thought and more democratic action to protect the public interest and display greater respect for the integrity of British democracy by significantly altering this badly constructed Bill in ways that may surprise?
    Your presumptions of 'defeat' and quickness to presume an English parliamentary constituency encroaching into the Duchy are premature in the context of UK parliamentary procedures and, it seems, are more to do with your personal wishful thinking than anything else as, judging by your relentlessly anti-Cornish titles when it comes to 'blogging' on Cornish matters, you appear to have been determinedly exploiting your privileged access to a publicly funded ´óÏó´«Ã½ internet presence to pursue a very personal and politically motivated anglo-centric and kernowphobic agenda.

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