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Ask Manchester

  • Richard Fair
  • 30 Aug 06, 09:16 AM

There鈥檚 a very active community over on Livejournal that is basically a help-all for people in Manchester, coming to Manchester or just passing through.

The whole community revolves around people helping other people with their Manchester questions and queries.

Questions like 鈥?鈥 or 鈥?鈥

It doesn鈥檛 take long for the friendly replies to start appearing, there was a Stitch and Bitch session due to start last weekend (wonder how it went), and a number of suggestions and comment about bed suppliers.

Better still, 鈥榗ount_libido鈥 asked if there were . It appears that there isn鈥檛, but now it seems that the blogging commuinty could be starting up one of their own.

At the time of writing the comes from 鈥榠_am_the_others鈥 who asks about living in West Didsbury 鈥 鈥(I) have been told by a number of people that its "studenty but nice". I was just wondering how true this is and how it comepares to other "studenty" places鈥 鈥 the answers roll in from people best placed to answer such a question. As to what they鈥檝e said, you鈥檙e best !

The Pride of Manchester

  • Richard Fair
  • 26 Aug 06, 08:02 AM

As Manchester Pride 2006 gets into its full swing, it鈥檚 worth having a look at who describes himself thus: 鈥淛ay is 21, and lives in central Manchester UK and is a frequenter of Manchester's gay scene.鈥

There are some on there of the Village all set up ready for the festivities. Sadly it looks like Jay will be too absorbed in all the fun and games of the weekend to post much 鈥 he put up a 鈥榖ack in 24 hours鈥 sign, but we can look forward to his comments, observations and pictures when all the excitement has died down.

On the Blog Trail for a Night Out

  • Robin Hamman
  • 25 Aug 06, 10:44 AM

It's the first Friday of this blog's life (can we say that?) and we thought we'd use that as an excuse to showcase some of the blogs that help point people on their way out at the weekend.

I followed a link from to who has lots of gig reviews (including one this week of the at Urbis) but, sadly, nothing about stuff going on this weekend. Mancubist had a link to who had a link to - and that's where we ended up. I'm not going to steal their thunder so you'll have to click the link if you want to see what 5 gigs they've got listed for tonight.

And if you're the planning ahead type (of course you are!) has the that Peruvia, a bit of a blast from Manchester's clubbing past, will be back on the 2nd of September. I went to Peruvia for New Years Eve back when it was, if I remember correctly, in a hotel in the middle of nowhere. Or maybe it was in Stockport. Well, it was New Years so you can't expect me to remember ALL the details.

Is there somewhere you usually go to find stuff to do at the weekend? Drop us a URL and let us know about it. Happy weekend!

Photos in a Haystack

  • Robin Hamman
  • 24 Aug 06, 04:52 PM

I've been spending some time looking at photos tagged with Manchester on flickr. Lot's of time - there are of them and that doesn't even take into account photos that have been tagged with the name of one of the nine boroughs.

So how does Manchester compare to rival cities? Liverpool has and Birmingham, always the source of much lively debate on the 大象传媒 Manchester message board, has just photos.

What does it mean? Probably not a whole lot other than that there are loads of people taking snaps of Manchester and the surrounding area. So many, in fact, that we're faced with a rather large haystack and need some help sifting through it.

If you've published photos on flickr (or another photo sharing site) and want to help us find them, please tag them with or send us a link.

Our favourite so far? This by Jane, who we mentioned in an earlier post, of light and an anonymous figure filling the void between the curved walls of the and .

Starting a Conversation

  • Robin Hamman
  • 24 Aug 06, 02:16 PM

We've started to get emails and some comments on the blog from people who are interested in finding out more about this project. We're aware that the email address seems to be bouncing - it works internally, honest! Someone is fixing that right now so if you've been emailing please try again in a bit.

We've also a few posts about this blog, starting with - thanks for being first. Spineyhead also reached out and linked to us - even after we to him in our first day online. Friends now mate?

Manchizzle, who recently organised a blog meet for Manchester bloggers (wish we'd known about it!) helped us get an awkward question out of the way early by :

For this, they will not be paid - well, not in anything but traffic and bragging rights (I can hear a few people snickering already about this being a clever way for the Beeb to land themselves some free, fresh, local content). But there's no denying that this could be an opportunity for some bloggers to increase their audience...

You aren't the first person to ask if this is just about the 大象传媒 getting some free content and we've put a lot of thought into this. It's true that some of the content from participants will appear on this blog and, perhaps, be used on the 大象传媒 Manchester Where I Live site or on-air. We could do this, so long as it fell within the normal "fair use" clauses of copyright law, without asking anyone. But that's not what this is all about. It's about building relationships with people who are, or who want to, create stuff and publish it online. We want to help participants build their own audiences and make their efforts self-sustainable.

With those goals in mind, we'd be happy, if asked, to show participants how to sign up for , or other sources of blog revenue. It also means that rather than lifting participant's content wholesale or grabbing entire posts/videos/podcasts, instead we'll be excerpting bits and wrapping some editorial around it to encourage our audiences to visit the source. It's more of a showcase for the participants - which is why we said in the first post here that the 大象传媒 won't actually own anything: not the infrastructure used by participants or their content.

As you say in your post, this might just be an opportunity for *some* bloggers to get a bit of promotion and traffic out of the 大象传媒. We hope that's exactly what it is. Thanks for giving us the opportunity to discuss that issue early on. Do feel free to comment below on our response!

Getting on the 43 Bus blog

  • Richard Fair
  • 24 Aug 06, 07:45 AM

If you鈥檙e looking for a good example of the kind of blogger we鈥檙e after, you won鈥檛 go far wrong taking a look at Geoff鈥檚 website 鈥樷.

The 43 is a bus that runs between Manchester Piccadilly and Manchester Airport. Geoff makes observations about the things he sees as well as contemplating life as a Manchester commuter. His little drawings are an added delight.

The great thing about this blog is that no matter what Geoff writes about, he鈥檚 never that far from the orange glow of the number .

We're Looking for Your Manchester Content

  • Robin Hamman
  • 23 Aug 06, 04:26 PM

As we mentioned in the first post, we're hoping to build relationships between 大象传媒 Manchester and people who are using, or want to use, the internet to create and publish some great content about Manchester. We reckon the best way to find potential participants is to open our eyes and ears to what's already online.

Our first stop was , a blog aggregator that lists UK based blogs according to their location, has listed for Manchester. Whilst, at first glance, it looks like some of those are spam blogs and others are long ago forgotten efforts, there are some promising looking blogs here. We've bookmarked the page and will start working our way through them over the coming days and weeks.

We're also using to search for mentions of - which, rather dauntingly, there were over 1000 of yesterday - as well as mentions of any of Greater Manchester's .

That's a lot of potential blogs to look at already so we're using an to subscribe to feeds from any blogs we decide to keep a better eye on.

I've also been looking around the photo sharing site and have come across some excellent local photographers, for example , whose photostream is full of beautiful shots, often taken in hazy light conditions, of South Manchester as well as other areas Greater Manchester. If you have photos on flickr that you'd like us to see you can either email us with a URL to your photo stream or tag your photos with "bbcmanchesterblog" and we'll find them.

In future, we'll also be looking at other photosharing, podcasting and video sharing sites.

You can help us find good Manchester related content - blogs, photos, videos, podcasts, whatever - by posting links in the comments below or emailing us. Those links can be to content you've created, stuff you've enjoyed finding yourself, or ideas for content you'd like to create and publish online if you had the chance to learn how to do so. We're looking forward to your tips!

大象传媒 Manchester Blog

  • Richard Fair
  • 23 Aug 06, 03:47 PM

One of the things we thought we'd do at the start of this blog was explain exactly what it is we're trying to accomplish. For years, the 大象传媒 has been looking at ways to engage more directly with it's audiences. We've promoted email addresses on air and asked for photo submissions, we've stuck comment forms on the bottom of articles, we've spend countless hours building message boards and community platforms, our staff have reviewed and approved millions upon millions of messages - and what have we learned? That all this is expensive business.

In the past, whenever the 大象传媒 has sought to do something with user generated content we've built new platforms, taken on the role of managing all the content that floods in, asserted some rights over that content (although not ownership in the vast majority of cases) and, some would argue, exposed the 大象传媒 to legal and moral risks. Furthermore, doing things in the old way had a bit of a sting in the tail - if a service really took off, and sometimes they did, the 大象传媒 would actually face increased costs because our services often don't scale well.

This project is an experiment in doing things a bit differently. Rather than building platforms, we want to help people create their own stuff on existing third party (non-大象传媒) platforms. Instead of contributors sending us content members of staff here at the 大象传媒 sifting through that content in a bid to find the good bits, we're simply going to ask contributors to tell us where they're publishing their content online and we'll keep an eye on it. The 大象传媒 won't claim any rights over the content and won't own anything.

What?!

Here's the plan in a nutshell:

  • We're looking for one or two participants in each each of the ten boroughs of Manchester
  • We'll organise a series of workshops for participants. During the first we'll talk participants through the 大象传媒's Editorial Guidelines and talk about about the 大象传媒's production values. Then we'll ask participants what sort or content (text, photos, video, audio?) they might want to create and we'll match them up with a 大象传媒 member of staff with production experience in that area.
  • Participants will then be shown existing 3rd party, that is non-大象传媒, websites that will enable them to publish their content online.
  • 大象传媒 Manchester blog staff will then subscribe to the RSS feeds of each participant and keep an eye on what they publish. We'll always link to the front page of their content, so long as they don't break the 大象传媒's editorial guidelines, and when they publish something we think deserves to be highlighted we'll do so in the main body of the 大象传媒 Manchester blog.

Here's what everyone will get out of it:

  • The participants will get access to production advice and bespoke tutorials on creating and publishing content online using the tools of their choice. When their content is highlighted, they'll get (hopefully!) a burst of traffic from the 大象传媒 Manchester website. We'll do everything we can to help participants make their participation self-financing but won't be offering payment.
  • 大象传媒 Manchester will have the opportunity to build relationships with users/content contributors in a much more sustainable way in the past.
  • The 大象传媒 Manchester blog will act as a showcase for the project and, in particular, the best content that's been produced by contributors and highlighted by the 大象传媒. This will be a "one stop shop" for 大象传媒 Manchester journalists who may want to read out content on-air, contact contributors for background information about a story, reuse a gig review on the website, or even ask a participant to go on Northwest Tonight (our regional TV news) to explain something they've covered online.

Would you like to get involved? If you've already got a blog, profile on a social networking site, flickr account, etc then let us know where to find it by sending an email to manchester.blog(at)bbc.co.uk

Robin and Richard

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