Friday, 2 March, 2007
- 2 Mar 07, 05:45 PM
Are schools in England and Wales "institutionally racist"? Is the education system failing black pupils, and in particular black boys? A government report suggests there is unintentional racism in the education system stemming from long standing social conditioning involving negative images of black people (particularly black men) which stereotypes them as threatening. Paul Mason examines the report ahead of our studio discussion.
Plus, a Newsnight poll on the leadership of the Liberal Democrats' Sir Menzies Campbell. We put the results to him. And the couple accused of killing their child by salt poisoning are acquitted. John Sweeney - who made Newsnight's original report on the case and spoke to Angela and Ian Gay - has the latest.
Kirsty presents - your thoughts on the programme are welcome below.
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"The liberal party seems to have failed to find a leader with strong enough mentality to stop people taking advantage of liberalism at the expense of others..."
"Liberals enjoy discovery and improving life in a win win way..."
..."whilst preventing themselves from being taken advantage of..."
.."and stopping people getting opportunities they don't deserve"
"Eminent people in every town and company have redefined liberalism to prevent advantage and opportunity..."
"for their self serving sense of privilege..."
.."because they believe their lives should improve at the expense of others..."
"the simplest way to do this is through fighting for beliefs in self interest and getting rid of the others.."
"they want to be free to live in ignorance of the opinions controls customs workabilities trustabilities advantages and creative power mastery or reassessments of others"
"The future is conceived with fresh and kind liberal inspiration..."
... "and created and shaped by libertarian conservatives...who know what they want and what is worth doing..."
"Self serving liberals are in conflict and defiance against society"...
.." against those who love the world and expect to be able to get on with anybody easily valuably freely worthily rewardingly trustably romantically yet avoidably"
"The greatest freedom comes with the understanding and communication ~ communism ~ "..."and doing what you want in a wanted way ~"... "and the enjoyment of productive work" " enjoyably knowledgably working together "~ "and the trustabilities of authority rationality practice care and attention and consideration..." libertarian conservatism in a social corporatist world...
Modern liberalism is an enslavement to primitive risks and pleasures just to stay happy enough and safe enough to participate..in a society where often leadership and understanding have broken down and people have to fight for the life and the money...
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Every colour of working class character...has suffered institutional racism....in every institution...
... as the primary way that inferior blairites enhance their economic positions by fighting for their beliefs in the value of themselves to win their pride ...
Lads who grow up to adulthood fast who know their own worth who want to do what is wanted who want to show off confront and challenge victimisation ...a whole gender of humanity and characterisation of interaction...
..are misrepresented deliberately by blairites in the belief that they deserve their economic privilege...
... and that means to them that our characters should be made to suffer to miss out on opportunities so that ignorant educated beliefs of self serving selective establishment win...
As humanity we have many genders, our own characterisations for the purpose for joining in, our own knowledge and practices for the objectives we set ourselves...
We are all more motivated passionate opportunistic and expressive than the gender of newlabour
Wantonness and opportunitism are the greatest genders of humanity that wants to achieve and attain the greatest and best and are the most admiring appreciative and adoring of creativity opportunity and others...
But we are all institutionally hated by perverts who believe that the economic privilege of agreement with the beliefs is what wins their money...
...When, we know the application of our motivations and appreciation of the world and those around us, what we do to control and determine our futures..to contribute what we want show off, what we are worth!!!
Blairites continue to believe the degradation victimisation and moral disablement of all con-servatives because of our genders, approaches to the opportunities of the world, and our disbelief disbehaviour and our knowledge of our own sports dramatic musical and observation powers!!!
Ours is the kingdom the power and the glory.. we show off the care justice proudness bullishness and attention and the annoyance and hurt that white tempered thinkers fear they are inferior to....
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Is it just me, or is the structure of the site and posting system all a bit odd at the 'mo?
May explain the massive number of posts, I guess.
Just watched my PC download, in a very staccato manner (a function of other site issues perhaps?).
Re: Unwitting discrimination
I have never really understood what the definition(s) of racism is/are, and adding institutional on to it just seems to muddy already murky waters.
Still a lot of folk are making nice careers out the whole thing.
I can only wonder how one can really address something 'unwitting', as surely by definition it is not done on purpose and is almost impossible to 'correct' without highly legitimate accusations of undue influence. And by being a whole lot more sinister than the rather quaint 'positive discrimination', which seems to mean strong-arming a result to suit un-demo or meritocratic agendas that often seem held outside the public's voting wishes.
Ms. Abbott was singularly unconvincing and uncharacteristically tongue-tied and inept when trying to explain away some rather key questions on why one sector alone was performing so poorly. In fact a tack was quickly changed almost mid-sentence, and hence maybe the piece should have been re-labelled, 'institutional class-in-London-ism' instead?
The original title could have held true had the 'wealth of qualitative evidence which suggests that black pupils are disciplined more frequently, more harshly, and for less serious misbehaviour than other pupils" - and that such a differential approach is likely to be unwitting on the part of the teachers' made it on air, but I don't recall any being mentioned. Maybe the qualitative evidence referred to was Ms. Abbott's alone? In which case it made for an interesting insight into journalism today.
Re: Lib Dem poll
Ming, er, who the heck put him in charge? I'm off to a Lib Dem 'do' soon as part of a mission to figure who in my county gets my vote as our MP is standing down.
His performance in this would have been enough to make the odds of my support pretty dim, but the more recently unveiled discussions on pacts with Mr. Brown are, if true, enough to strike that flickering light.
Looking forward to Panorama tonight, though.
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the exclusions report does not seem to appear on the Department of Education's website. How can one get a copy ? Has it actually been published.
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