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How exactly does the Bishop investigate the service? And what are his options if he didn't like it?

Graham Veale

Can anyone refute the following with chapter and verse rather than heat and rhetoric?


- Psychiatric patients have a complete ethical right to request orientation therapy if they wish.

- Psychiatrists are professionally obliged by ethics to help patients set their own therapy goals.

- Unwanted same sex attraction is a mental condition recognised by the WHO.

- There are plenty of credible studies which show it is possible.

- The Royal College of Psychiatrists has no policy or ethic to discourage patients from seeking such therapy nor to discourage counsellors from giving it.

- It merely says that some treatments in this field may be damaging. If they are shoddy treatments no doubt they will be damaging but that is not the same thing as saying that all therapies in this field will be damaging.

That is merely promoting ideology through rhetoric and is not an objective statment on the matter in any sense.



SOURCES;-

WHO says Egodystonic sexual orientation is where;-

"The gender identity or sexual preference (heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, or prepubertal) is not in doubt, but the individual wishes it were different because of associated psychological and behavioural disorders, and may seek treatment in order to change it."

The orientation itself is not the disorder nb but WHO affirms that the patient may still seek to change "sexual preference".


professional studies for successful change cited here;-




testimony here;-

And I'd still like to know what Anglican bishops do.

Hi gveale

A lot of Anglican Bishops are very distressed about the two gay Anglican priests who took civil partnership vows in a London Church and I think the problem is they find it very hard to break through the red tape to get their concerns heard.Here are a few links that might explain their case.



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PS By the way I am not an Anglican or Church Of Ireland

Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.

Re:Post 2

Are you PB in disguise?

Ps. I have no wish to defame or insult by this comment.

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Hi Peter,

As for the opening statement I think that it is a bit extreme that the priest had to resign(just making sure that this post is on topic)

My bets are indeed on PB/mild/original being this new poster.

If it is not PB, then no-one would of course find these posts offensive-only PB could do that-so if the posts go it must be PB!

Yep the post does resonate with PBism's and as you pointed out PB always wanted us to do the hard work.

Regards

DD

Hi chaps

PB = OT but neither are "me".

I thought PB was a bit bland and didnt really mean much, hence I chose a new moniker.

Hope you like it

kinds regards

OT

OT:
How about OTT? Or even PMB?

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Yep it certainly is PB!

I see you have been busy with the "complain" button again!

Seriously PB are the mods aware that you have tried to escape pre-mod by posting under other identities?

And PB you are betraying your fundamentalist mindset-why not try to engage with posters and learn the simple rules of debate.

Kindest regards

Ps. there are some questions that you have left unanswered over a very long time-maybe when you have a moment you could have a look at them.

pps. the mods must really love you PB! at least you give them something to do!