David Irving in New York
A says it was deceived into providing space for a lecture given by the well-known 'holocaust denier' . During the lecture, Irving outlined his distinctive views on Adolf Hitler -- that Hitler was not anti-semitic prior to WWII, and that the systematic killing of jews was carried out without his knowledge or consent. The journalist Max Blumenthal recorded the talk, and spoke to the church's pastor, Fr. Angelo Gambatese about how he had been duped into permitting the world's most controversial historian to speak in a basement educational space in his church. Watch Max Blumenthal's video of the event below. You'll also hear Irving speak about his 'friend' Christopher Hitchens, who has written in defense of Irving's right to hold and publish his views.
Comment number 1.
At 27th Jul 2008, The Christian Hippy wrote:Angelo Gambatese said that 鈥渨e do not cater to that kind of bigotry鈥 he should go and read some European history about the .
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Comment number 2.
At 27th Jul 2008, petermorrow wrote:Hi Puritan
Finger pointing is a poor pass time. It ignores one's own guilt and serves only as a form of self-righteousness leading to eternal separation from the Judge of all the Earth, who alone is holy.
Neither you nor I are Angelo Gambatese's judge and faced with the cross we would do well to be silent.
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Comment number 3.
At 28th Jul 2008, The Christian Hippy wrote:The destruction of the past is perhaps the greatest of all crimes.
Simone Weil
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Comment number 4.
At 28th Jul 2008, petermorrow wrote:Hi Puritan
Post 3 you are indeed correct. I did not in any way defend a rewriting of history, nor should we. And in that vein I presume you condemn militant Protestantism?
My point is that we, in recognition of our own guilt, ought to be careful about the tone we use.
In pointing out the sin of humanity we are called to recognise our own part in that and fear Him who can destroy the body and soul in hell.
If Christians have not first learned to contemplate their own sin, and resting upon the mercy of the righteous God acknowledge that, then we should think twice before pointing out the sin in others. As sinners, we identify with sinners, to do otherwise is self righteousness. We are, are we not, debtors to mercy alone?
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Comment number 5.
At 28th Jul 2008, portwyne wrote:Puritan Post # 3
Utter nonsense - if that were the case then Time would be the greatest criminal, creating the past and then destroying it like Kronos devouring his own progeny.
The destruction of the past is both inevitable and good paving the way for things new. An obsession with the past is unhealthy.
This thread is about art and on that subject I am probably fairly alone in feeling there was a certain rightness in the Taliban's destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas - a symbolic invitation to embrace the Zen idea of transience more potent than the mere persistence of the statues themselves. I hope I am not alone in the horror I felt when I discovered far more priority and funding went to the restoration of the Giotto frescos in the Basilica of St. Francis following the earthquake in Assisi than to the resettlement of the many poor people left homeless by the same event.
I have yielded to temptation and end with my own scriptural quotation: "...for the former things are passed away... Behold I make all things new."
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