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If they really were true believers, they'd stop wasting their time playing politics and pandering to public opinion and would spend their time praying. I guess they are not true believers after all. They wear their religion like a cloak to be removed whenever it is uncomfortable and their dogma always gives them a way to rationalize their actions no matter what they do or don't do. Looking at the data, the photographs, what's happened already, and what is locked in by actions whose consequences are not yet manifest, I'm betting it's already too late. Praying is likely all that is left.

For whom the bells toll - they toll for religious bodies that are leaping on this lefty bandwagon and abandoning their proper roles. I stopped giving money to Trocaire a long time ago - they're a cross between Amnesty and Greenpeace now.

Smasher what a bizarre comment. You've stopped giving money to a Catholic poverty that's doing a great job in the developing world because that charity recognises that both human rights issues and climate change issues are linked to the poverty they are trying to combat. You make no sense at all. I will be continuing to support Trocaire. I wish more charities recognised that you can't deal with poverty without dealing with the causes of poverty. And the causes of poverty question takes you to human rights abuses, climate change (and its effects on the conditions faced by impoverished people) and other social issues.

Well my main reason was that I discovered they were partnering pro-choice groups in Africa, not what I give money to a Catholic charity for. I think they've become too political and lefty in their analysis of the causes of poverty. and now they're into violence against women. Now nobody condones violence, but this is precisely the route Amnesty took - started with violence against women and then it was forced pregnancy and then they were pushing abortion. Trocaire should stick to doing what it was set up to do. I send my money to Aid to the Church in Need - much better crowd. So glad to see Trocaire's collection last year was down by a million.

Smasher, you are astounding. That anyone would celebrate the reduction in an anti-poverty charity's income is nothing less than disgraceful.

Augustine - if you had formerly donated regularly to, say, Amnesty International, and you discovered they were working with the KKK to stop blacks registering to vote, I think you would stop giving and I think you would be happy to hear their income was falling. I send my money and my goodwill else where to charities I think do more good.

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