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We talked on the show the other month

Comments

1. At 03:48 PM on 08 Dec 2006, wrote:

   Oi, some of us have been moderated just for saying 'spherical objects' around here!

2. At 03:54 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Big Sister wrote:

   Lord Mair, the Best yet.

   Let us all caress our spherical objects. If we have them.

3. At 04:05 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Carl Goss wrote:

   A chance to whack your balls through hoops, but everything in moderation. Talking of moderation .. I got 'bastard' on the blog once, but then so did Eddie!
   Love life... love PM

4. At 04:19 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Peter Wharton wrote:

   Is this something about the deputy PM?

5. At 04:31 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Vyle Hernia wrote:

   PLEASE don't refer to the PM programme as a show. It's very demeaning...

6. At 04:37 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Peter Wharton wrote:

   I'm getting a bit nervous of our beloved leader (Tony Blair) talking about 'conforming'. I was under the impression that society evolved rather than being manipulated by others to achieve their own ends.
   Fiddling with their croquet balls while the Country and the Planet burns!

7. At 04:39 PM on 08 Dec 2006, wrote:

   There is nothing on the right hand side of this page (ref: Eddie says there are more WOYW galleries up).

   Also the only way to view the WOYW galleries is from Eddie's posting. Once in one gallery there is no link to the other galleries, nor a link back to the blog pages (so that one could scroll down to Eddie's posting to click on other galleries).
   
   The PM site is a terrible mess...or is it my browser?

8. At 05:08 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

   Has the PM really been talking about hatemonkeys today? ..........

9. At 05:09 PM on 08 Dec 2006, wrote:

   Sorry Suzi: I think it's your browser.

   Grrrr!

   Would you like me to post some links here to the 10 galleries currently listed, and/or the Advent Calendar so far?

   Fifi xx

10. At 05:09 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Perky wrote:

    Looks like the PM office is getting into the Christmas spirit - literally, perhaps....

11. At 05:10 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    Has the PM really been talking about hatemonkeys today? ..........

    
    (In case this appears twice, I am adding this extra sentence for the sake of further originality.)

12. At 05:12 PM on 08 Dec 2006, wrote:

    Re the Iraq blog which I've only just got round to reading:

    Ed Iglehart, you are the man.

    And Peter Wharton:
    "Perhaps we should look at which businesses have made money out of this fiasco." What a master of understatement!

    A lot of the rest of the froggers come across as very, very naive. Where did PM go wrong?

13. At 05:18 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    Has the PM really been talking about hatemonkeys today? ..........

    (Is there a problem with this site currently?)

14. At 05:19 PM on 08 Dec 2006, wrote:

    Suzi Sue,

    It ain't your browser (or not only), but they've got over 4000 pictures to cope with, and may i suggest the 'back' button or setting a bookmark.

    Thanks for the appreciation on the pachyderm thread, although "the man" can have either good or bad ("the white authorities") bad connotations (as can 'bad')

    
    ed

15. At 05:19 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Suzi Sue,

    The PM Blog is officially organic. Eddie has told us so. It is to do with those who take part, who are probably not all organic but definitely free range.

    Thus the Blog grows 'organically' and ranges freely.

    For 'mess' read 'rich organic compost'.

16. At 05:40 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    And our celebrity for tonight is ...... Joan Bakewell.

17. At 05:42 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Suzi Sue,

    The PM Blog is officially organic. Eddie has told us so. It is to do with those who take part, who are probably not all organic but definitely free range.

    Thus the Blog grows 'organically' and ranges freely.

    For 'mess' read 'rich organic compost'.

18. At 05:44 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    My word, Eddie, you of all people don't need lessons in schmoozing ......

    Now, about that dream the other night, it was at a party you were throwing, right? And we were all admiring your collection of antique Scottish dining chairs, and the whisky flowed free and ...........

    But it was all above board, honest!
    
    And now you're talking about Christmas party photos. Didn't I hear something about the Beeb moderating its message boards? Does visual not count?

19. At 06:00 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Suzi Sue:

    If you really are a newcomer to the Blog, I'd be a bit careful about throwing around insults like 'Sun readers' (see Iraq thread). In this environment, that could almost amount to trolling.

    If you have views to air, we'd love to hear them. But properly expressed, please.

20. At 07:12 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Aunt Dahlia wrote:

    Dr H
    Yes there is, but ____ (insert name of deity to whom you subscribe) only knows what it is other than an inconsistent mind bendy wrongness.
    Have some soup.

21. At 07:56 PM on 08 Dec 2006, wrote:

    I'm not new to the blog, Big Sister. I was one of the first till it got taken over by a rather exclusive few...plus I usually have more important things to do.

    I amended the reference to "Sun readers" when my ancient browser (ha!) wouldn't let me submit and so I posted my regards for Ed on this thread instead - but apparently the original got through anyway. For "Sun readers" read (surprisingly) "misguided and uninformed"...

    And sorry, Ed, "you da man" was meant in the most flattering sense. Got bored with the back button BTW - especially if I'd looked at any of the pix. Why not use "target:_blank" and have them open in another window? I did worry for the elves and their massive task. My pic is still not up (if I could find it anyway).

    Thanks Fifi and all who obviously DO have something on the right of their screen who have suggested it's my browser...(Organic indeed, my mother couldn't find her way round either and she spends all day on the web with bang up-to-date gear)...
    Trouble is, I'm a Mac user who needs a system upgrade that requires a second mortgage.

    However, I do look forward to the gallery being accessible from the PM main page, as tentively promised by Eddie this evening. Also, perhaps, a new "Special Report" - the last of which was in July (as my mother pointed out)...

    Love to you all xx

22. At 07:57 PM on 08 Dec 2006, wrote:

    Oh Vyle, It is a show when Eddie hosts it -- a programme when Carolyn is in the seat :-)

23. At 08:00 PM on 08 Dec 2006, whisht wrote:

    ah, Peter (6) yes...

    I just wanted to say how pleased I was with Tony Blair's speech about tolerance.
    
    Of course we should not tolerate intolerance. I...erm... ooh... no, hang on, there is a serious point in here somewhere... what am i meant to tolerate again...?
    
    Oh yes. And another thing he said was about the Equal Opportunities Commission looking into the Muslim faith for its treatment of women. I hope the Equal Ops also look at Old People. Some of them are dreadful with their out-of-date views on "women in the home" and "knowing their place".
    
    I can't tolerate Old People like this who force their opinions and bigotry on me. The little old lady next door is a racist and that's a fact. She told me.
    
    She's obviously not British, as the Brits are tolerance personified and the sooner we get rid of this undesirable element the better.
    
    I'm glad he's all for tolerance. and don't get me started on dictators - I can't stand them and we should invade and impose our way of life on intolerant peoples as quickly as possible and then they'd learn what tolerance was all about!!
    
    erm... no... hld on, that wasn't it....

    [ahem]

24. At 08:28 PM on 08 Dec 2006, wrote:

    Suzie Sue (21) Glad you could make it back (what with all those important things you do) & I would be really sorry if you felt the blog had become an exclusive ghetto. There is actually a concerted effort to avoid frightening off newcomers by appearing cliquey, and the welcome mat is rolled out to all. The blog has evolved from the PM basics, probably not up to the standards you or your mother would prefer, and Lissa is anyway still working hard on it all for us.

    The clarification of your comment about Sun readers makes you no less of a potential troll on this board, where the misguided and uninformed are in a tiny minority. The rest of us appreciate the opportunity we are offered here to share a whole host of different perspectives on current affairs, as well as whimsy, without the usual snarking found on other blogs/forums.

25. At 08:48 PM on 08 Dec 2006, admin annie wrote:

    please enlighten me, what is a 'troll' and what is 'trolling'.

    btw I am not a Sun reader.

26. At 08:56 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Belinda wrote:

    Oh dear, it's starting to be less fun with trolly type people.

    Off I go into the wild blue yonder...

27. At 09:53 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Scrooge-Tinsel aka Aunt Dahlia wrote:

    Admin Annie:-
    Troll: someone who deliberately posts something intended to inflame or get a violent reaction from readers
    ‘Don’t feed the trolls’: in order to discourage a troll, do not react, most will go away if after 24 hours or so they have not stirred up trouble.

    SUZI - don't go, people expressing naive views gives others the chance to inform them. Some of us don't 'know' enough to comment intelligently on many of the topics raised here. This is the sort of arena where you can hear what people are saying, untinted by rhetoric or the need to convert. Outside University where else are you going to get developed threads of argument and counter argument?
    By reading any newspaper? NO, but by listening to people who assimilate their experience into their opinions.
    Don't slag us off, join in.

28. At 10:00 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Anne P. wrote:

    admin annie (26) - from Wikipedia:

    "In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, most often in the form of posting inflammatory, off-topic, insulting, or otherwise inappropriate messages."

    Sometimes you'll see someone say 'don't feed the trolls' , meaning if you ignore the offender they will usually go away. I haven't yet caught up with today's other threads so don't know if it is appropriate to charge any recent posting with trolling. Sometimes it is just due to the person posting not having caught the flavour of the community.

29. At 10:58 PM on 08 Dec 2006, wrote:

    Suzi Sue,

    No need to apologise. I took it in the flattering sense (as I would, wouldn't I?). Try the beach where serious stuff is generally frowned upon (were frowning itself not frowned upon).

    And there has sprung up some more rich compost, and, of course, other browsers are available...
    !
    xxx
    ed
    

30. At 11:17 PM on 08 Dec 2006, admin annie wrote:

    thank you both for the enlightenment. I had heard of flaming but not of trolls. What on earth do they get out of it?

31. At 11:20 PM on 08 Dec 2006, admin annie wrote:

    
    not sure what happened there but in case my attempted post didn't reach the powers that be: -
    thank you Anne P and Aunt Dahlia for the enlightenment. I had heard of flaming, but not of trolling. Now I know what it means; but I still don't understand why anyone would want to do it.

32. At 11:36 PM on 08 Dec 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Meanwhile, I'm off to dream of Eddie and his antique chairs. And a long ride tomorrow.

    See you later, guys!

33. At 11:37 PM on 08 Dec 2006, RobbieJohnDo wrote:

    Oh Aunt Dahlia - you are good - you really are good - and Scrooge Tinsel doesn't suit you - leave it behind!

34. At 12:11 AM on 09 Dec 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    I received the PM Update e-mail, but not the Friday newsletter. If I had kept a list of the days ‘on’ and ‘off’ for prompt delivery, would it help? I haven’t.

35. At 01:03 AM on 09 Dec 2006, wrote:

    Aunt Dahlia (27) Quite so, & where else can one have a thought, & just discuss it. I like that I don't always know what I think, & I don't expect to think the same things I did 10 years ago or in 10 years time. My fluidity could be called inconstancy, one SO found it entirely irritating, & no longer being able to have a stimulating conversation was about when I upped sticks!

    Belinda, I don't even 'know' you, but don't go. Some people are very busy with important things to do & very high standards so they haven't got time to spend with us even if they do think we need educating!

36. At 01:07 AM on 09 Dec 2006, wrote:

    P.S. Didn't the Billy Goats Gruff see off the troll, we just need the little-est one if memory serves me well?

37. At 01:13 AM on 09 Dec 2006, wrote:

    Oh what a hectic day -- lost track of the beach and the daily Blog.

    Just watched Eddie on Daily Politics,

    Excellent presenter, marred by some late cues, especilally when Eddie ad libbed about Carols around the trees if 'we have time' which ended up with a bit of a pause -- would have been better if a guest had chuckled.

    It's all here for those who missed it:

    Hope he sticks to Radio though.

    Chris Jarvis popped back from Tunbridge Wells with some awful news.

    He's in a one bed flat up there and has had nasty letters posted under his door from 'Would be' Christians, explaining in underlined words that they have noted a number of people venturing in and out of his flat and he still has time to Repent.

    He said it's okay for me to mention it to 'Eddies Froggers' and would like to make it clear that any to-ing and fro-ing are merely one or two cast members ie: nothing that needs to be repented!

    Some people eh!

    
    

38. At 01:14 AM on 09 Dec 2006, Mr. I. Kew wrote:

    Budge up, you whingers!
    For the first time I can say
    "My Newsletter - lost".
    

39. At 01:29 AM on 09 Dec 2006, Mr. I. Kew wrote:

    Regular straplines;
    But today's is written in
    Invisible ink

40. At 08:25 AM on 09 Dec 2006, Anne P. wrote:

    No Friday newsletter in Derbyshire either. Was there one?

41. At 03:39 PM on 09 Dec 2006, Aunt Dahlia wrote:

    jonnie c37
    I think it was Bernard Levin who said 'Never underestimate the malign obduracy of the stupid'. Which just about sums up the people who are harrassing Chris Jarvis . Were the notes in blunt pencil on lined paper? Tell him to do something to repent, just to catch up!

42. At 04:35 PM on 09 Dec 2006, wrote:

    Johnnie (37) that really is horrid, I am disgusted with Tonbridge Wells.

    In his book "They F*** You Up: How to Survive Family Life" Oliver James has some very interesting things to say about people who are Christian fundamentalists, suffice it to say it is more about personalities than faith. It is only anecdotal evidence but it described someone on my MA I know well worryingly accurately.

    Theology being the minefield that it is, I shan't say too much, but I would moot that such folk entirely contradict the philosophy of Christianity. You could give Chris a sparkly kiss from me if it won't start any rumours!

43. At 04:57 PM on 09 Dec 2006, wrote:

    I'm trying out links, painfully for other froggers, but have to try again just in case I have finally got it. Inspired by cheering Chris & Johnnie up, I shall be linking to the panto if it all goes wrong!

    See

44. At 06:20 PM on 09 Dec 2006, wrote:

    By golly she's got it! Or whatever! Hurrah hurrah, thank Ed for whatever you posted for someone else, I finally did it!

45. At 11:27 PM on 09 Dec 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Johnnie, that's truly awful. I want to add my agreement with what Aunt D and Sparkles have already said. These people must be unhappy and bitter souls if they have such a problem with the lives of others.

    Give Chris a hug from me to go with Sparkles' kiss.

    A, x.

46. At 02:23 PM on 10 Dec 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Having read through this thread I gather there has been some flaming/trolling on the Iraq thread. I have to confess that I have, for the first time ever, completely ignored a whole thread and not read any of it. I just couldn't face it, knowing it would raise passions and strong opinions but that none of those will change anything. This has been a depressing enough week without that.

    What I want to say here is that any nastiness that has gone on there doesn't seem to have really spilled over and that some people will only contirbute to that kind of issue and then go away, so Belinda - and anyone else who may be tempted - please don't leave: Just take a deep breath and wait for the flamers to move on.

    A, x.

47. At 02:48 PM on 10 Dec 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    By the way, Eric, you are very, very naughty. That is why I cannot give you up.

    And well done for telling that Lauren Booth not to be so rude on The Daily Politics on Friday.

    Help, I'm talking to myself again...

48. At 10:34 PM on 10 Dec 2006, gossipmistress wrote:

    Sparkly Helen (43) Congratulations!