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is next Tuesday at 5pm, and tonight on the programme we're hearing from a chap who did something very similar. There's a visual treat .
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Well, I found a lot of text, but not much visual .....
Eddie, your idea will be so much better.
Just read the newsletter. You must all have had a fairly harrowing day. Our thoughts are with you.
Eric, did you really just say "next Tuesday at 5 o'clock, as we come on air"? I will definitely be listening - but I think you should be careful about where you point your camera!...
My photo would be my laptop, desk, digital radio, teacup & boring. I might go out for the day to create an air of mystery.
Ahh - But - Ohh
Eddie, what a wonderful letter re digital!
Brilliant timing on your part ....
This link will take you to the pictures directly. You might need to log in though...
I emailed you a few days ago to say that the Forums I belong to did the same thing in 2004, but I only got an automated reply from you.
We ran the shoot for 5 months at midday on the first day of the month. During that August I took a photo of the hovercraft terminal on the Isle of Wight and one of our American members who was visiting me at the time. Because I don't have a digital camera I had to submit it a few days later when I could get it processed and then scan it through.
Unfortunately, the photos got erased for some reason, so the idea of putting the ones that PM will get into a book is a very good idea. You could even donate some of the proceeds to charity.
Thank you to Eddie, Rupert and all at PM for tonight's beautifully edited snapshot of Nick Clarke's funeral. Perfect.
My photo may well be like yours. SparklyHelen, but that's the whole point! It's pointless, and that's why I love the idea :-)
Ah, I know you're holding the comment I've just submitted. I've found the entries for 1st July so would it be possible to add this link to them:
If so, thanks.
We were going to try and take them every month during that year and here is a list of the suggested themes,
As I said before, most of the ones we did take are lost.
Aperitif!! Go and sit on the naughty stool immediately!
Btw, no Newsletter again today, so far this week I've totally missed out Tuesday's and Friday's - thank heaven for BlogXtra. That sounds a bit like a testimonial doesn't it?
"Thank heaven for BlogXtra, it published all the bits the PM ether machine couldn't extrude"
Ok, I know, I'm off for the Night Out now - must be stir crazy or something, mumble
Hi,
I am the person who did the short interview on today's show about the photo book...thanks' Eddie for the opportunity.
Just to let everyone know that all of the profits from the book will go to a charity. However, I still need to find a charity to donate to. Ideally I would like to find a charity that has something to do with inspiring creativity in underprivileged children.
If anyone has any ideas I would love to hear them.
Thanks,
Sancar Sahin.
Hi Sinclair, it was a great interview, & I am sure there will be some inspiration here. I am racking my brains at the moment, because I know I know of a project run by a grass roots NGO, just can't think what it was at the mo'. Failing grey matter, but check back.
Oh Fearless Fred, I am tempted to tidy my desk in preparation for next week now, but desperately trying to avoid artifice now!
I hesitate to say it, but I think someone (4) has been having some incredibly smutty thoughts. I hope not, actually, but what does it say that I read them that way?
Dr H, I think we all know about Appy's thoughts re Eddie!
The clips of Nick Clarke's funeral had me sobbing like a baby in public, particularly the thoughts shared by Nick's widow. It seems that she is as strong and dignified a person as her husband.
The rest of the show was wonderful as well Eddie.
Hi Belinda,
Very touching clips from the funeral. I agree with your sentiments.
I was in the bath with the toothbrush going and turned it off. Not being at all sarcastic but the speeches were very thought provoking and I hope the 大象传媒 lives up to tne sentiments.
I really feel for the family.
We miss you Nick
I've started (or rather resurrected) a blog. I've no idea what I'm doing it for, or what to do with it. Just thought I'd try putting a link here. Ignore me as I'm messing about with t'internet!
Mary
Fearless (17) Eddie has not actually asked us to take photos thatcan be published on a BBc web site. Ii has not been taken as read that they are to be published but eddie could end up with a great gallery of "interesting" picture that perhaps are not allowed on a 大象传媒 server. The legal bit all comes to mind again...
I too am likely to be near a PC but it could be a pair of spectacles.
My concern from here is that the pointlessness of this is great but the "event" will be missed by the millions who don't cant' won't listen to Radio 4. And its their window that may be most interesting :-)
Smashing blog.
Um Stewart (21)? I made no mention of what Eddie is planning on doing with the photos we send him. After all, he's admitted on air that he doesn't know what's going to happen... All my post 17 was saying was that regular froggers here know what sorts of thoughts Aperitif has about Eddie at times :-)
Madmary - now you've got me at it, though I think I got lost halfway through....
"I was in the bath with the toothbrush going..."
Perhaps just a little too much information there, jonnie. Or, maybe, not quite enough. Not that I'm prying or have any desire to be fully informed about the situation. I just keep getting these strange images in my mind...
Val P, thanks for leaving a comment on my blog! Congrats for being the first, and maybe the only visitor!
I might keep up the entries.
Mary
ooh, Eddie, Lissa and team, the "Toady' Programme (a lesser relative of the frog) has its own advent calendar.
I refrain from posting a link.
No I don't, it's good.
/radio4/today/adventcalendar/index.shtml?emailsent
Mary,
I haven鈥檛 registered to leave comments, but have also read your blog.
Not to worry Dr H. It's just a bit of fun on my part!
Mary
Dr H. I've just made it possible to post on my blog without being a member. I think I have anyway.
Mary
Frances O (27)
Thanks for the Toady link which reminds us that the girls have equality when it comes to preparing a dog's breakfast.
Has Eddie ever crashed the pips/bongs?
Aunt Dahlia (32)
I doubt that the bongs would dare to put in an appearance while his Lordship were speaking.
I recall that he did invite comments on whether the listener would prefer a moment of silence before the bongs or his dulcet tones right up to the chimes.
The Advent Calenders in the 大象传媒 are interesting.
Frances O
You are right. It is good. Somebody muscling in on Eddie's audio clips?
Ah, Roberto! You are there! And you were being spoken of on the radio last week (not re PM this time). What a well known man you are in the UK!
Gail. Big Sis, I know - it's worrying. I have to confess I've emailed the toady calendar to friends.
Luckily I know Eric and Lissa never read the frog at this time on a Sunday. They might be having some real life. (Wossat? Ed) (not our Ed)
Valery (12),
I've been sitting on the naughty stool (eeww!) all weekend. Am I forgiven? I want to come out to play again.
Get off that naughty stool now Aperitif! You are needed on the beach.
Mary
Oh sorry Appy, did you not hear me telling you to come back??
Please accept heartfelt apologies!
Oh that's alright Valery - I clearly deserved it. Do you have to sit on the naughty stool every Friday night?
Oh look - I've learned italics!
Yay! Well done Val P!
Mary
Oooh Valery, sorry I didn't notice the heartfelt until you pointed it out!
Well done! Hurrah! And so on...
Valery P. congratulations on the italics, and if you would be so kind please support me while I have a Lynne Truss moment.
Why, oh why, oh why, can no-one, but no-one - even 大象传媒 journalists - use conditionals correctly any more?
"If he had done x, he may have done y."
I think NOT. It's "MIGHT". And it's not "might of" either, but "might have done...".
Am I the only one in the universe who finds this apparently universal change in the language grates on the ear? I accept that language changes, but really...
Ah well, flame off, and thank you for listening.
Anne P, I once had an argument with a young man about the "of"/"have" thing. He said that his teachers had never corrected him and thought that I was wrong! Grumpy old women unite!
Mary
Valery,
Well done!
Anne,
The subjunctive is one of the highest and most dangerous developments in language, whereby we become able to speak of things which have never and may never actually happen or exist. A real goldmine for legislators and lawyers - a somewhat inbred lot anyway.
How abstract can we get?
Ahh the joys of what might've been!
xx
ed
If it's MIGHT does that make it RIGHT?
ed
I'm so relieved to hear this of/have discussion. Up until now I thought it was just a N.Ireland thing because of our accent.
I have read newsletters by "grown-ups" with the 鈥渙f鈥 instead of 鈥渉ave鈥 and been totally appalled. In a very sad way I am relieved that it is not a parochial problem.
Yep, with you all - it's because it's so often shortened to "might've" in conversation, but then written incorrectly. I seem to remember I posted on this a while back as it's on of my pet hates. That and the senseless use of "literally" for emphasis, but I really shouldn't harp on about that one again...
Shall we start a petition?
Count me at the top of the list! Pedant by name and nature. Wait till you see the name of my Blog though (if I get around to learning how to link it!)
Whew, that was a good distraction, see, Ap's not thinking about Fridays any more - snigger
Aperitif - no you certainly shouldn't harp on, that's my job! But I know exactly what you mean & it irritates me intensely too. Local newspapers seem to be the worst offenders at the "might of" & "Could of" game. BTW I tried to use italics in that first line but I bet they haven't worked. I'm feeling a bit tired having forced myself to compose interesting, witty, modest, ironical,self-deprecating but quietly boastful Xmas message for sending to far-flung friends with the creative home-made (by 9 yr old)cards. (They are better than they sound- honestly. Don't know about the message though.)
Nope, just previewed & the whole lot came out in italics. Can't be bothered to try it again tonight. Can switch em on but not off, it seems.
Tomorrow is another day!
Hi Froglets.
Chris Jarvis left this on his Reindeer pic post
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At 12:36 PM on 03 Dec 2006, Chris Jarvis wrote: Hello everyone...
Thanks for the kind comments!
Mr Mopple will be back on CBeebies soon. I'm back on later as me with the reindeer and, on Christmas Day, as a variety of panto characters including an ugly sister. My real panto is in Tunbridge Wells - if you come, shout "PM" or "Eddie!" ...just so I know.
I work on CBeebies but have you seen the new Jackanory on 大象传媒1 or the older kids' 大象传媒 channel C大象传媒? It's amazing & will inspire our nation's PSP-playing kids to read again.
What does the informed R4 audience think about the state of storytelling in the UK?
Chris J
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He won't have e-mail access for ages so but has asked me to take a note of all the comments so he can speak to the people in charge.
Either leave comments on the beach or at the contact section on and I'll hand them all to him in a Months time,
Jonnie
PS: ED I .. re capturing the feeds - I'll send you an e-mail
Okay, add me to the list of pedants....
I'm so glad to discover I'm not alone.
Well, it seems it's time for all of us to admit to being pedants when it comes to literary/linguistic matters! My pet peeve? When people say "You can visibly see...". As opposed to seeing with my ears, maybe? Gah! I can feel my blood pressure rising just thinking about it!
Val P, to link your blog, just paste the blog address into the Website space under Contact Details here, and your name will come out like mine and others. We can then view your masterpiece - I for one can't wait.
On the subject of pet hates- I deal a lot with police officers interviewing suspects, and they always start telling me about the offence by saying basically. They carry on using that word throughout the interview. It's so meaningless. Another word which is overused is "essentially" in the same way really. Imagine how irritating it is to be trapped in a locked police station being subjected to bad grammar for hours on end!
Mary
My SO hates "right now", so universally used instead of a simple "now". Which means I have begun to hate it, because he always makes such a fuss (and I hate fusses).
When I listen to good rap (and I confess I can't name any artists - I'm not, as such, a 'fan') I'm always impressed at how creative people can be with language. I was a language teacher for many years, worked abroad, and still regard myself as a linguist, and love playing with words, marvelling at how flexible it can be, and laughing at the way changes in grammar can create changes in meaning.
Thank You. I love you all. Clearly each of us thought we were pedantically alone. But of course Lynne Truss wouldn't have been the huge success she was if we were.
(And I don't object to beginning a sentence with either 'but' or 'and', though I was taught not to.)
I hated formal grammar at school, but I loved doing precis, and I'm sorry that it seems to have died out as a taught skill (unless it has been revived since my four left school). As a tool for honing both thought and understanding it has no equal, and many a journalist would benefit from understand how to prune judiciously.
PS split infinitives and incorrectly placed adverbs is another bugbear - but I won't go there.
Since we're nominating our most hated parts of the English language can I nominate 'going forward'?
Often used by management types when they mean 'in the future'.
Meant to give the verbal implication of forward movement and unstoppable momentum, i.e. "We forecast better returns and greater profits, going forward".
Often convoluted to hide undesireable side-effects. I personally heard a new CEO in a Footsie-100 company use it to describe swinging job cuts (he shed over one-third of the workforce). My remark to a colleague " The ones who lose their jobs won't regard it as much of a forward move", turned out to be very prophetic.
Si.
I harbour a distate for "on a daily basis" where "daily" would do, and similar.
Valery, you think I can't multitask? I admit, three things at once can be challenging but frogging about grammar and wondering about your Fridays at the same time? Easy money! Care to share the latest?
I find myself less bothered about incorrectly placed adverbs and spilt infinitives these days ( as you will have been able to see from many of my postings). I admit to a certain amount of flexibility on the organic development of language, ie if it sounds more clumsy when expressed correctly (a subjective view here of course), then I'll accept corruption!
Ok, ok Aperitif, you knew that already.
Perhaps I'm being mellowed by the Hormonal Shift - there has to be a silver lining hasn't there?
Lol! - spilt infinitives, I love it! Hey ho, back to the humble pie.
Valery P (62) - love the image conjured up by spilt infinitives: spreading slowly out across the floor, resisting every attempt to mop them up with a copy of 'Hart's Rules for compositors' in one hand and Fowler's 'King's English' in the other.
I'm quite happy to accept that language is fluid, to continue the analogy. It's just that some changes grate more than others.
Think I'm going to have trouble keeping up today - so many threads all at once.
Now, is this Window on The World photograph meant to take place at 5pm your time or 5pm my time on Tuesday? Here in Hong Kong I'm eight hours ahead.
Lawrence, 5PM GMT.
Ah! The Beach. Marinaded Lamb Kebabs? Lovely!
I've hidden the pressies somewhere really interesting and I shall be very cross if any of you dig them up!
I'm still waiting for wishlists from many of you. Also anyone got any ideas for a pressie for Eddie and Lissa?
I'm off to dabble my sore feet in the water.
Mary
madmary
You're lost. You've obviously had too hard a day in court. The beach is three threads forward or just clink on the link below.
/blogs/pm/2006/12/this_weeks_beach_1.shtml
I've left you a suprise magic bottle in the bar for your birthday. It's magic because if you say the name of the bottle that you want as you take off the wrapping, your desired bottle appears.
Happy Birthday tomorrow.
I deplore the increasing use of "ourselves" or "myself" instead of just "our" or "me" as in "that song was written by myself".
I once worked for a government agency which dealt with solicitors' firms and I always remember reading a letter which contained the phrase "in respect of the letter from yourselves to ourselves dated ..." grrrrrrrrr!