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Barnes will inspire Australia to victory (89)

Swansea - Eight left and by the end of the weekend there will be four.

Which four that will be has yet to be determined, but what is for sure is that the make-up of the semis will be heavily influenced by the performances of each of the team’s key players.

Here’s my rundown on this weekend’s central figures and who will end up winners and losers.

England v Australia
Once in the group stages, throwing them into half of the draw, they were collectively written off by the press and public alike. In fact, many, including me, doubted that they would even make it to the last eight with difficult ties against Samoa and Tonga left to negotiate.

But , and now that the match with Australia is upon us, there has been a change in expert opinion.

With Jonny Wilkinson back at the helm, there is a growing feeling that England could come away with a win from this game.

As central as Wilkinson is to this England side, this game will be won and lost up front. I think England’s key man will be their returning skipper Phil Vickery.

The creaks in the Australian scrum are not as prevalent as they have been in the recent past, but the set piece remains the area England must pinpoint to exert pressure on their opponents. will need to be the heart of that effort.

More crucial than that, though, will be his leadership skills. He stood behind his captain, Martin Johnston, in as the Leicester man led from the front and set an example for his troops. Vickery will have to be as talismanic in Marseille on Saturday as Johnson was in 2003 if England are going to keep the defence of their trophy alive.

Australia have a devastating backline and, with an ample supply of possession, could cut England to ribbons. But to do so they will be reliant on the continued form of rookie fly-half Berrick Barnes.

showed an aptitude for the big occasion in , looking confident and assured as he made the decisive break to set up Matt Giteau’s opening score.

It is a World Cup quarter-final, though, and the jitters have got to more experienced men than him in the past, so his temperament will be vital.

Despite England’s improvement in recent games I will have to go for Australia and their dangerous backs to walk away with the spoils. Their pack is no longer sub-standard and will match England’s. With that platform, Barnes and the rest will do the business.

France v New Zealand
selection for this match hints at the game plan they are going to employ and comes as a surprise to me. The presence of kicking Lionel Beauxis at 10 and Damien Traille and his siege gun boot at full-back suggests that Les Blues will play a structured, territorial kicking game that will be a complete contrast to the style that won them .

It will be , therefore, who will need to kick accurately for ground because, as everyone knows, kicking loosely to the likes of Macdonald, Rokocoko and Sivivatu can be costly.

New Zealand's Chris Masoe powers through against Scotland

For the , as ever, everything will revolve around Dan Carter. On his day (which seems to come around pretty often), he is unrivalled in his ability to single-handedly win a game. In fact, I’d go as far to say if fires it virtually guarantees the All Blacks victory. Even if he doesn’t, then they’ll probably win anyway!

France will need to produce a monumental effort to deny this New Zealand side a semi-final berth. Maybe if they’d been playing in front of a home crowd, them it might have been a possibility. as it is, however, means I will stick with Graham Henry’s boys to march on.

South Africa v Fiji
are now my adopted team for the remainder of this tournament, but I fear that will only be one more game.

The Islanders will need to spring the mother-of-all World Cup shocks to get past - and that challenge has become even stiffer since losing their influential outside-half Nicky Little to a nasty-looking knee injury.

If they are to make inroads into the Springboks defence, I think that they will need to get wide of their powerful pack and use Seru Rabeni to attack the 13 channel .

will be a handful for anyone and, if he and Fiji’s other runners can get beyond the gain line and also get their offload game going, there’s no doubt they can score tries.

South Africa have been buoyed by the return of Schalk Burger to their back-row following suspension but he could see himself targeted in the same way that Alix Popham was for Wales by Fiji’s big hitters. Those early physical confrontations will set the tone for the game.

will be out to turn the tables on the Fijians and line-up a few collisions of his own.

I predict a brave Fijian performance with a couple of tries to boot, but the Springboks to go through with a comfortable victory. Mind you, I’ve said that before!

Argentina v Scotland
The last of the weekend’s quarter-finals sees out to send another Six Nations team packing after already and in the group stages.

The Pumas have a real hard-nosed edge to their game at the moment and have also developed a winning mentality. Their pack is firing on all cylinders and there is genuine finishing ability in the three-quarters. But the person who continues to make it all tick is the evergreen Augustin Pichot.

He no longer possesses but more than makes up for his tiring legs with his razor sharp mind. I speak from experience when I say that he can bewilder opposition back-rows, always keeping them guessing while he sets a dizzying tempo with his livewire style.

Argentina captain Augustine Pichot in action against Ireland

Outside of him he has the sublimely talented duo of and Contepomi, too. That axis of the team is bursting with the creativity to compliment the grunt of the pack.

If the tournament so far is anything to go by, will be looking to metronomic utility man Chris Paterson to kick them to victory. He enjoys a so far in the World Cup. That stat is even more impressive considering the difficulties the likes of Wilkinson and Carter have had with the official ball.

Scotland may need more than that, though, and they will hope that the confidence that their backs have gained from the and will see them take them game to the Pumas.

Should their defence hold strong and a tight game develop, then they certainly have a trump card in Paterson.

I’m opting for Argentina, though, as I thought their win against Ireland showed that they are now a team who are not just capable of shocking the ‘top tier’ nations but a team who are among the world elite. In my eyes, they could even make the final.

Enjoy the weekend!

Ryan Jones plays number eight for Wales but misses the World Cup through injury.


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  • 1.
  • At 04:00 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Azzi wrote:

Sorry... Berrick who?

  • 2.
  • At 04:02 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Andrew in Durham wrote:

Jim Robinson, Clive James, Merv Hughes, Ian Thorpe, Cathy Freeman, John Howard, Dame Edna, Mel Gibson, Russel Crow, Kylie and Danni, Mrs & Joe Mangle, JOE MANGLE can you hear me Joe Mangle, your boys took one hell of a beating....

  • 3.
  • At 04:03 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Gordon wrote:

Rolf Harris, Kylie Minogue, Ricky Ponting, Vegemite Sandwiches, Men at Work, Shane Warne, your boys took one hell of a beating...

  • 4.
  • At 04:08 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Dean Smith wrote:

"Australia have a devastating backline."

Yes agreed. They looked pretty devasted!

  • 5.
  • At 04:09 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Erith wrote:

No he won`t!!!

  • 6.
  • At 04:14 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Edwardo wrote:

yeah berrick barnes was amazing lol

  • 7.
  • At 04:25 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Martin wrote:

Another rugby `expert' who gets it wrong.

Well done England - a deserved win against Australia. Maybe the press will focus a little harder on providing encouragement rather than criticism.

  • 8.
  • At 04:29 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • D Childs wrote:

Wrong!
The Ozzies pack was rubbish and we destroyed it.

Come on England!!

  • 9.
  • At 04:31 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • ETT wrote:

really good call ryan, i cant believe that you thought aus would win, their pack is a joke. YOU CANT WIN GAMES WITHOUT FORWARD. aus's backline the most overrated line in the world

  • 10.
  • At 04:35 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Mike Stuckey wrote:

"Despite England’s improvement in recent games I will have to go for Australia and their dangerous backs to walk away with the spoils. Their pack is no longer sub-standard and will match England’s. With that platform, Barnes and the rest will do the business".

Hmmmmm - no longer sub-standard eh? Never mind, the Aussies have another 4 years to get it right!!

  • 11.
  • At 04:37 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • CAM_Edin wrote:

"I’m opting for Argentina, though, as I thought their win against Ireland showed that they are now a team who are not just capable of shocking the ‘top tier’ nations but a team who are among the world elite. In my eyes, they could even make the final."

- How on earth could a professional rugby player look at the two games that Argentina have and think that they are going to win both of them.

Even if they do beat Scotland, South Africa in a World Cup Semi-Final will slaughter Argentina. Absolutely slaughter them.

I think that this World Cup has caused everyone to lose their heads.

Thankfully England showed today, that rugby is a very simple game and I am sure tomorrow Scotland will finally knock the wheels of the totally unjustified hype surrounding Argentina.

Their form does not stand up - one opening night shock and one defeat of an out-of-form team trying to score 4 tries is not a shift in the powerbase of World rugby.

And as for the following:

"Despite England’s improvement in recent games I will have to go for Australia and their dangerous backs to walk away with the spoils. Their pack is no longer sub-standard and will match England’s. With that platform, Barnes and the rest will do the business."

- I think that shows it is time to hang up the keyboard and get back to playing...

  • 12.
  • At 04:49 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Roberto wrote:

Looks like you got it wrong - together with all the super hot Aussie pundits. Never mind, these things happen.

  • 13.
  • At 04:51 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Dylan wrote:

So far so wrong
Aus 10-12 Eng

  • 14.
  • At 04:52 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Robert Kovacs wrote:

Well Mr Blogger 0 out of 1 so far
;-)

  • 15.
  • At 04:58 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Bruce wrote:

Australia were choked by England at the breakdown and unable to maintain any continuity.

This will certainly end the South African confidence resulting from their having the "easier semi-final". And Argentina have been shown the way on how to beat the Springboks.

  • 16.
  • At 04:59 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Jason wrote:

So - on the basis of what's just happened in Marseille, I'm going to follow the punditry here and go and back ... erm ... Fiji, Scotland and France ....

;*)

  • 17.
  • At 05:00 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Helm wrote:

Humble Pie much then ?

England Fan

  • 18.
  • At 05:01 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Matt Day wrote:

"Barnes and the rest will do the business..."

... He's in charge of booking the flights home is he?

  • 19.
  • At 05:11 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Russell wrote:

Does this mean we have again have to listen to the Australians appologising for bad mouthing us again. All I can say impressed.

  • 20.
  • At 05:12 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Jeremy Costello wrote:

It was on the cards, Australia hadn't had a proper game in the group stages and were caught cold, a good win for England but will struggle against France in the semi's!

  • 21.
  • At 05:12 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • James Sweet Chariot wrote:

The wannabies join the welshies. welcome home.

  • 22.
  • At 05:21 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Ryder wrote:

Good column again Ry, and i hope, as an ospreylian, that you recover quick from the latest setback to captain our side to glory in the Magners, EDF an maybe Heineken:D.

I can dream aii lol

Anyway, just witnessed a great match, and as a scrum-half myself ,playn youth rugby soon, it was great to see England's dominace against the aussies. The forwards were outstanding. They had them in the scrums everytime, and maybe Wales should have chosen far more scrum's against Fiji as we were on top for that part of the game, anyway back to England, the forwards great but the backs need to find the same brillance as the forwards. because the prospect of a Semi against AB/Les Bleus is daunting. Good luck.

Just to add, for those non-welsh out there, who would you like to see as our next Welsh Coach??

  • 23.
  • At 05:22 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Will wrote:

Well, where were the infamous Aussie backline that will take England apart and out the of the World Cup?

Simple - back in Australia! Putting another shrimp on the barbie and having a tinny - celebrating their World Cup win.

IN YOUR DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lotte Tiquiri - you owe us an apology! I would get on the plane home pretty damn quick! You were rubbish!

  • 24.
  • At 05:24 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Lisa wrote:

Note to English commenters: A scraped 2-pointer with no tries is not 'one hell of a beating'. The Aussie pack didn't show up.

  • 25.
  • At 05:29 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • AndrewL wrote:

Good call about Australia! Barnes did show up England, as the score line shows. With predictive skills like yours, Russell Grant should soon be out of a job. Keep writing England off- its doing us the world of good.

  • 26.
  • At 05:31 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Brian wrote:

Oh, dear! Looks like England weren't following your script!

  • 27.
  • At 05:32 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Wixey wrote:

Ive heard of this new Australian comedy but can someone tell me which one was Kath and which one was Kim.
G'day Sport indeed

  • 28.
  • At 05:33 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • spooner wrote:

No, let's be fair, he only said what everyone was thinking, thankfully, apart from the England camp.
I never believed that Oz would take England too lightly, maybe they didn't do so, but I don't think they expected the ferocity from all 15, not just the front 5.
Won't say any more just yet, don't want to sound "triumphalist".
But congratulations to all, in particular to Brian Ashton and Andrew Sheridan - true gentlemen - look and learn!

  • 29.
  • At 05:36 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Matt Day wrote:

The only thing that could have made that victory better was if Shane Warne had made a cameo appearance!

  • 30.
  • At 05:44 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • 4 more years wrote:

What a game. if im honest i thought we would leave the field defeated but with our heads held high although sumthin in the bottom of my heart said said we could do it and boy did we do it with style. the best english performance since the final in Sidney 03 .it was worth the wait. well done boys. FOUR MORE YEARS!

  • 31.
  • At 05:44 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Terry B wrote:

snigger! snigger! chuckle! chuckle! Yeeeeeeeeees! You got it wrong!!

  • 32.
  • At 05:44 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Jon wrote:

CAM_Edin, Argentina are the "surprise" package of the tournament so far, yet to anyone who has followed them over the last few years, it is not a shock. There is a good reason Argentina's pool was dubbed the group of death, Argentina have lost once to France in 5 or 6 outings, they are the only side to have beaten France in the Stade Velodrome in Marseille, they beat England at Twickenham, they've given all the Tri-Nations sides humdingers of games over the past 5 years, yet ignorance such as "their form doesn't stand up" eminates from us in the traditional nations.

This is a side who do not get the regular scouting ground of the 6 Nations or the Tri-Nations yet still they turn these sides over. 6 of the squad are amateurs in Argentina, starting wing Horacio Agulla. This is a side who operate in a country where rugby has for a long time been a minority sport behind football, which is a national religion. Yet their pride and passion for the jersey keep the senior professionals flying back to Buenos Aires to play their home games.

If so many of the home nations had such pride and passion in their play, if they had something like the motivation of the Pumas, then they too would be in a position to challenge the Southern Hemisphere sides.

Aside from the well documented powerful pack, there are enough class players in the backs to trouble any side. I haven't seen a better scrum half in this tournament than wily old Gus Pichot, Hernandez is a match winner in the purest form, and Felipe Contempomi is the tournament's second top scorer, with more points than Chris (100%) Paterson.

And still, despite their world number 4 ranking, they do not consider themselves favourites for any game against a traditional power of the game, because they don't have the opportunity to compete against them on a regular basis. They are ranked higher than all of the 6 Nations teams, who get to play each other and a Southern Hemisphere team or two every year.

Yes, South Africa may well beat Argentina if the semi-final ends up that way, and could beat them well, but the Pumas have made their point already in this tournament, and they can only be good for world rugby that another continent has a top team, another set of people exposed to the game and aspire to be at the same level as them.

I've taken to following them, I was in Argentina during the first couple of weeks of the tournament, and suddenly the place has opened up to the sport. Everyone acknowledged that rugby existed beforehand, but the publicity created by their march to the Quarter Finals so far has been enough to have the kick-off time for the Superclasico football derby between Boca Juniors and River Plate changed to accommodate the rugby. There are very few bigger deals there than that one.

They have a chance of making the final, just as England do, they're still in the tournament at the time of writing, and that by definition gives them the possiblity. What worries traditionalists is that they have the team to put that chance into reality. Vamos Pumas

  • 33.
  • At 05:47 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • wrote:

Excuse me Mr Jones, but I think you are talking like Argetina do not even have a match tomorrow.

Let me inform you that Scotland have the best goal kicker in the world (namely Chris Paterson) and we will be cheering from our couches in the famous Shelgate Road.

Singing O Flower of Scotland as I type!

Come on Scotland! Giddy up!

  • 34.
  • At 05:47 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • PK wrote:

This is the funniest blog I've ever read.

  • 35.
  • At 05:47 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Mark P wrote:

Great win. Can't help thinking that some pundits write what they hope rather than anything considered. Saw far too many green and gold jerseys in Wales today for it to be funny....

  • 36.
  • At 05:51 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • liz newman wrote:

You did not pick Austalia to win because they were a better team, you picked them to win because England were playing them.

How wrong you were, why for once can you not support a home nation.

England played brilliantly, they wanted it more than Australia, and they got it.

Australia went into the Match thinking they were going to thrash England, they are well as you got it wrong.

  • 37.
  • At 05:53 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Alan wrote:

"Their pack is no longer sub-standard and will match England’s."
I lost count of the amount of scrum's that Alain Rolland had to stop, and though he got some decisions wrong, he did a thoroughly good job.

I think this victory ranks alongside Twickenham in '05 in terms of the performance of the forwards, although the Aussie scrum clearly got a lot wrong. Due to the above reasons, i can't put my finger on it exactly as I'm fourteen, 5ft zilch and a scrum-half, the Engls=ish pack beat them in more than just strength.

NZ should beat us, but England now know they have a pack to match the best. If we can dominate, and i mean really cut the New Zealand pack to ribbons, we might just have a chance of strangling their backs. We might not even have to play them! ;)

  • 38.
  • At 06:00 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Cambo wrote:

Well predicted mate, not ! Australia got a hell of a beating and I am proud to be English !

  • 39.
  • At 06:00 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Michael Roberts wrote:

The only way it can get any more tense is if England play Tim Henman in the semi, at half time Liverpool come on and score three goals and then a Russian linesman produces a winning drop goal from the penalty spot.

Excellent win - good team performance but a special 'well done' to the immense pack

  • 40.
  • At 06:00 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Robert Kovacs wrote:

"Note to English commenters: A scraped 2-pointer with no tries is not 'one hell of a beating'. The Aussie pack didn't show up."

noone said it was a hell of a beating, but 2 points gave us the win. The aussie pack did show up and weren't at the same level. Well done Ashton and England.

  • 41.
  • At 06:05 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • buile shuibhne wrote:

Just watched it in a pub in Cork, ending with the surreal spectacle of 80% of the Irish (myself included) in the pub giving an English win a rousing round of applause.
Fair play England. Full disclosure: I was supporting you by default, because if there's anyone more sickening when they win it has to be the Aussies.
But, such childishness aside, it was a fine performance, and one that restores faith in the concept that guts, determination and the right game plan can take you a hell of a long way.

As for Australia, what's the point in talking the talk if you lose a final in your backyard, and follow it by getting dumped out by supposedly the worst English side in a generation? You had this game won in your media, and in your heads - that doesn't cut it.

Finally, you have to wonder whether all the talk about EOS as a shoo-in for the Lions job was a bit premature. We could learn an awful lot from an England team that profited by displaying a lot of the qualities that, for Ireland, made up for other deficiencies, but in this World Cup, were sadly absent.

  • 42.
  • At 06:05 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Bill Montigue wrote:

Waltzing Wilkinson, Waltzing Wilkinson, he'll be kicking 12 points for me........

  • 43.
  • At 06:12 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Richard Thomas wrote:

The way some of you lot are talking you'd think England had just hammered Australia 40-0.

Yes, England's pack was far superior. But for all that superiority where did it get them? The game was still won by the boot and could easily have gone either way.

My advice would be to not rest on the laurels of a sub-par match and get ready to take on, and hopefully beat, a more determind SH side.

Make no bones about it, the odd muscle-flex and fatboy-drive aside, that performance would not beat SA or NZ.

Criticism aside, well-controlled England! Have your moment, and enjoy the Semi-final.

How's that for an unbiased review from a Taff?

  • 44.
  • At 06:14 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • warren marabwa wrote:

Englang might make it the final New Zealand will be different from Australia they are strong and will bulldoze england at the back, they are not like Australia who move the defence around looking for a weakness but good luck to england

  • 45.
  • At 06:16 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Sean wrote:

chill out lads! England are still a long way off winning this world cup.

and once again the boring england tactics have provailed. but well done and thanks for the entertaining display and good luck in the next roung. ur gona need it!

p.s allez le blue!!

  • 46.
  • At 06:20 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • spooner wrote:

23 Lisa
They did show up, but they were STUFFED!
Rugby is a game played by 15 men.
15, not just a few talented, yet overrated backs.
Or would you prefer a game of 7s, or even touch rugby?

  • 47.
  • At 06:23 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • BUSHY wrote:

Liz no 35 - why should we ?

There are many many reasons why others from the UK will not support England but the biggest reason is the absolute arrogance from the nation making up 80% of the UK population thinking we should.

Great win England and thoroughly deserved, but don't kid yourself that the great majority of the rest of the UK's rugby fans (and the world) were wanting you to win. No chance, we were behind the Wallabies.

Guess it's our right eh ???

How's about playing an English anthem rather than the British one - now that would help.........

  • 48.
  • At 06:26 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • wrote:

YOU WERE WRONG
BE ASHAMED VERY ASHAMED
LOL

  • 49.
  • At 06:28 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • warren marabwa wrote:

Englang might make it the final New Zealand will be different from Australia they are strong and will bulldoze england at the back, they are not like Australia who move the defence around looking for a weakness but good luck to england

  • 50.
  • At 06:34 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • tim c wrote:

has anyone got any valium .Nerves are shot worse than 2003. Must be getting old. GOOD on aussies i watched it with gutted ,but gentlemen and women.
Off for a gallon of pimms and cucumber sandwich,maybe aussie chardonnay.PURE bloodymindedness lovely.xx

  • 51.
  • At 06:35 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Paul wrote:

Brilliant to see the Aussies eat humble pie again. Now all we need is Lewis Hamilton to clinch the World Championship tomorrow for a PERFECT
English sporting weekend

  • 52.
  • At 06:36 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • BUSHY wrote:

This thread is about CP being the best kicker in the world !!!

  • 53.
  • At 06:39 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Ian Lloyd wrote:

Good to see Ryan Jones recognises Englands dominant pack - roll on the 6 nations when the non Quarter final qualifiers get their next Internationals!!

  • 54.
  • At 06:43 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Jon wrote:

Jesus wept boys, how many of you actually would have put your mortgage on England to have won?

I was expecting more from Barnes, Mortlock didn't capitalise on the (fairly rare) English indiscipline, and the Aussie pack was shambolic. England put in a decent performance - enough to grind out a win against a poor side on the day. I'd like to see them pull off another upset but I don't see it happening.

Also, sorry to hear about your injury troubles Ryan. Hope you have a speedy recovery and I look forward to seeing you on the pitch again.

  • 55.
  • At 06:47 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • BUSHY wrote:

This thread is about CP being the best kicker in the world !!!

  • 56.
  • At 06:50 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Ian Lloyd wrote:

Good to see Ryan Jones recognises Englands dominant pack - roll on the 6 nations when the non Quarter final qualifiers get their next Internationals!!

  • 57.
  • At 06:52 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • LordTownstreet wrote:

"Let no one sneer at the bruisers of England - What were the gladiators of Rome or the bull fighters of Spain, in its palmist days, compared to England's bruisers?".

George Borrow (1803-1881)

Let's enjoy the day lads for what it was. England proved that they can play rugby and the Australian ego has been severely bruised. Alas, next week, whoever wins tonight, we will face a team who can scrummage. But England need fear nobody, have great respect, especially if it turns out to be New Zealand, but not fear.Today was the day that fear got chucked out of the window. Nobody will be looking forward to playing England. Well done boys!

  • 58.
  • At 06:52 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Ian Lloyd wrote:

Good to see Ryan Jones recognises Englands dominant pack - roll on the 6 nations when the non Quarter final qualifiers get their next Internationals!!

  • 59.
  • At 06:54 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Stu wrote:

Ryan

I am glad you have plumped for Argentina as well.

Come on Scotland!

  • 60.
  • At 07:05 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Iain Prentice wrote:

I am so pleased to see England beat Australia. I was in Brisbane this year and all the locals could do is say how England will be a non event.
Well Australia are the non event.
Yes England have a lot of work to do as they did 24 hours ago.
Go England Go!

  • 61.
  • At 07:05 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Robert Kovacs wrote:

42:
"Yes, England's pack was far superior. But for all that superiority where did it get them? The game was still won by the boot and could easily have gone either way"

Yes but twice at least england were about to score and your pack fouled to give away a penalty rather than concede the try. Go away and train to play rugby not your mouth!!

  • 62.
  • At 07:08 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Ross wrote:

Brilliant! It's forwards wot win matches: all 15 tackled like (Leicester) Tigers, but the front row folded them up like origami. C'mon the North!

  • 63.
  • At 07:10 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • wrote:

Sean comment 44 is this sour grapes as Jono and ML said on TV this is WC rugby and you play to win, England played well on the day and disrupted the Aussie game plan and they lost, this is what WC rugby is about

  • 64.
  • At 07:13 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Tors wrote:

For the scottish neutral, it was a dross game

  • 65.
  • At 07:19 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Adam wrote:

What was that Welshie Australia to hammer England, we did to the Aussies what the Mighty Fijians did to the welsh. Sheridan was imense he pulverised the fat porker in the Aussie front row. Watch and learn welshie that is how to play rugby,

  • 66.
  • At 07:28 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • spooner wrote:

52 None of us actually!
Delighted to have been proved wrong!

  • 67.
  • At 07:40 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • David Thompson wrote:

Sorry, I have just realized that we won't be playing the winners of tonight's match. But neber mind the thoughts apply in principle.

  • 68.
  • At 07:52 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Richard Thomas wrote:

60:
I'd like to thank you for a the hot-headed and offensive reply.

1) I'm not an Aussie, so "my team" didn't do anything of the like.

2) Only the reviled type of England supporter could come up with a reply like this to a post that otherwise complimented England.

Should I have said "wow, awesome display, England will surely go on to beat SA, and the performance will have NZ quaking in their boots!"

Do you expect garlands of fresh flowers to be thrown at the English players by scantily clad virgins? The win was just that, a win. And that's all that counts.

It was well controlled, Wilko's boot was, just about, good enough to get the kicks that mattered. Apart from that there's nothing else to say.

They didn't play badly, they tackled highly efficiently, and put a rather arrogant Australia team in their place. I can't say the performace was outstanding, because it just wasn't. Still room for improvement.

If there are any other England fans that believe no amount of criticism can be aimed at the display then please feel free to reply. And I'll feel free to point and laugh.

I wouldn't mind an apology to be honest, but given the ability of "t3H Inturn3t" to turn people into numpties, I doubt one will be forth coming.

Good day sir.

  • 69.
  • At 09:54 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Peter Martin wrote:

Congratulations to England on another fine victory over the Australians.

Lot's of talk recently about how much Australians "hate" the English.

That's typically a childish viewpoint from the Australians but we forgive you because, as you can see, we are bigger, much much bigger than you!

Go home and consider that being a man is more than shouting loudly, England fielded a TEAM of MEN.

Peter

  • 70.
  • At 10:15 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Jason wrote:

re my earlier comment (16.) I am definitely backing Fiji & Scotland now ...

  • 71.
  • At 10:19 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • jack forman wrote:

''Despite England’s improvement in recent games I will have to go for Australia and their dangerous backs to walk away with the spoils. Their pack is no longer sub-standard and will match England’s. With that platform, Barnes and the rest will do the business.'' hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, swing low, sweet chariot, hahahahahahahahahahaha

  • 72.
  • At 10:26 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Azzi wrote:

2 down, 2 to go...
could be an impressive 0% record...
but everything is carrying somewhat of a surprise in this tournament...

  • 73.
  • At 10:30 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Robert Kovacs wrote:

0 out of 2 - outstanding game by the french!!

Southern hemisphere?? who are they!!

  • 74.
  • At 10:32 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Rob wrote:

Well England deservedly win, France win a cracker of a game and I'm so pleased you've tipped South Africa and Argentina for tomorrow. Could be a super weekend - Come on Scotland and Fiji. Maybe you should have taken a break once your RWC ended Ryan as you're not doing very well at this punditry bit.

  • 75.
  • At 10:33 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Big Second Row wrote:

Vive la France! It's good job Northern Hemisphere rugby is so rubbish (apparently) or there would be no point in New Zealand or Australia turning up at all....

  • 76.
  • At 10:42 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • dexi wrote:

No. 47 - Have u got a chip on your shoulder or a bag of potatoes? Get over yourself. Most English fans want Jerusalem or Land of Hope & Glory as our national anthem plus the St. Georges cross as our flag - period. As for 80% of the country being arrogant, I take it you know 80% of the country to make that assumption a fact. Generalisation, ignorance and a serious lack of intelligence are your main problems mate!
As for the rugby, thought the game was brilliant, not until we won did I believe it. Like everyone else, expected us to perform but not to win. Well done boys, you've made me very proud. Thought that was game of the tournament.... until I witnessed the NZ v's France - WOW, what a cracker. Only the french could have pulled that off. Fantastic days sport.

  • 77.
  • At 10:58 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • Edwardo wrote:

0 out of 2...

good punditry so far

  • 78.
  • At 11:28 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • wrote:

Why is it that every Welsh bloke that watches the same game of rugby as me sees an entirely different game? One of my Welsh work colleagues said that he would rather support Argentina than England. What an idiot. The English are generally good sports. I shout for Wales, Scotland and Ireland, because of my British heritage.

Jonothan Davies is an absolute classic of the WRU crowd - he would rather choke on his tongue than praise England. I remember his comments on an England v Wales frindly when the Welsh were (again) takinig a pasting "The Welsh are playing a clever game here, lulling England into a flase sense of security.." Rrrrrright.

The Welsh are largely VERY bad sports and I smiled a private smile to myself watching the Fiji game.

WRU could do itself a favour and just be a little less xenophobic. It would make nice change...

  • 79.
  • At 11:30 PM on 06 Oct 2007,
  • wrote:

Why is it that every Welsh bloke that watches the same game of rugby as me sees an entirely different game? One of my Welsh work colleagues said that he would rather support Argentina than England. What an idiot. The English are generally good sports. I shout for Wales, Scotland and Ireland, because of my British heritage.

Jonothan Davies is an absolute classic of the WRU crowd - he would rather choke on his tongue than praise England. I remember his comments on an England v Wales frindly when the Welsh were (again) takinig a pasting "The Welsh are playing a clever game here, lulling England into a false sense of security.." Rrrrrright.

The Welsh are largely VERY bad sports and I smiled a private smile to myself watching the Fiji game.

WRU could do itself a favour and just be a little less xenophobic. It would make nice change...

  • 80.
  • At 12:12 AM on 07 Oct 2007,
  • Clive Hunt wrote:

Ryan,

How wrong can you be.

Your poor rugby knowledge ahs been exposed. A good player you are but you are not a pundit!

  • 81.
  • At 12:12 AM on 07 Oct 2007,
  • Peter Martin wrote:

Congratulations to England on another fine victory over the Australians.

Lot's of talk recently about how much Australians "hate" the English.

That's typically a childish viewpoint from the Australians but we forgive you because, as you can see, we are bigger, much much bigger than you!

Go home and consider that being a man is more than shouting loudly, England fielded a TEAM of MEN.

Peter

  • 82.
  • At 12:14 AM on 07 Oct 2007,
  • Ray Scott wrote:

What a fantastic day for NH rugby, regardless of all the predictions and criticism most teams have proved everyone very very wrong.

I am incredibly excited to see how tomorrow goes but more to next weekend, I still believe that we are in for a few more suprises, by the way how good is it to see most of the bloggers really get their predictions wrong, what a great RWC this is turning out to be.
I am a welshman who is very proud of England and France to get this far, I really would now love to see england go all the way, could they do the unthinkable, who knows...

  • 83.
  • At 01:33 AM on 07 Oct 2007,
  • peter mac wrote:

Some excellent comments from Ryan regarding Eng v Aust (except for the fact he did not follow on from his positivism and went for Aust!!)

eg. "As central as Wilkinson is to this England side, this game will be won and lost up front. I think England’s key man will be their returning skipper Phil Vickery." Vickery and Sheridan - pillars!!!

And as for Australia...well down under they were playing NZ in the semi-final, no question!! Thanks for that true ANZAC spirit....oh, and a big cheerio to to Welsh (where are they by the way??!!)

  • 84.
  • At 01:33 AM on 07 Oct 2007,
  • James Hughes wrote:

Wow - i'm an Englishman living in the USA for work at the moment. And barring a certain game in 2003, i've never been so proud!

The games today were magnificent. Come on England you little beauties! I have NZ rugger fans in my London office, they're unbareable. Monday should be fun...! I bloody love French rugby when they turn up. Only the Frogs could have done that today.

2-0 NH!

  • 85.
  • At 01:34 AM on 07 Oct 2007,
  • ale wrote:

Aguanten los PUMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 86.
  • At 01:35 AM on 07 Oct 2007,
  • James Hughes wrote:

Wow - i'm an Englishman living in the USA for work at the moment. And barring a certain game in 2003, i've never been so proud!

The games today were magnificent. Come on England you little beauties! I have NZ rugger fans in my London office, they're unbareable. Monday should be fun...! I bloody love French rugby when they turn up. Only the Frogs could have done that today.

2-0 NH!

  • 87.
  • At 03:11 AM on 07 Oct 2007,
  • springbok lady wrote:

I used to live in the uk and i can understand why the Welsh and Scots dont like to see the english win, its because they know tomorrow the papers will be full of England,When i lived in the uk England were not doing very well and it was very easy to get tickets to the england games,come on all you fair weather supporters would any of you have put your mortgage on a english win today?

  • 88.
  • At 11:07 AM on 07 Oct 2007,
  • Elodie wrote:

"Maybe if they’d been playing in front of a home crowd, them it might have been a possibility."

WE DID IT, we're in semis

ALLER LES BLEUS

  • 89.
  • At 09:58 PM on 07 Oct 2007,
  • Elodie wrote:

" France will need to produce a monumental effort to deny this New Zealand side a semi-final berth. Maybe if they’d been playing in front of a home crowd, them it might have been a possibility. "

We did it... :D

ALLER LES BLEUS!!!!!

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