Almost completely clueless
One of the upsides of the information revolution is that new ways of presenting our material pop up with every passing week. We've been experimenting with all sorts of things, the latest being . One of the downsides is that as yet there's very little audience research on what works and what you actually want.
We've been a weekly version of the programme for a few months, and recently started offering a daily highlight, but while we know that about 200,000 podcasts a month are downloaded we don't really know if you're lapping up every last moment or if they're clogging, unviewed, your hard drive.
Given that if you've received this as a subscriber to or are reading it on the editor's blog you're probably the sort of person who would download a Newsnight podcast - although I could be completely wrong about that - this is your chance to tell us what you think.
Is the weekly podcast, which aims to offer the best bits of the week on Newsnight, too long at 25 minutes? Do you want to see a small number of big items or a brief digest of everything?
The daily podcast aims to offer a reasonably timeless highlight which you can take with you to savour on the train, possibly once you've digested the newsier . Does anyone actually do that?
Do you watch the podcasts on your iPod, or just watch them on your computer? And is there still demand for the original audio podcast, radio still being a far bigger draw in this world than TV?
Tell us how you watch it and we'll aim to oblige. Or indeed if your preferred way is still: on the sofa, 10.30pm, possibly with a glass of wine.
Comments
I'd like to see much larger in depth pieces that were too long to broadcast due to time restrictions.
So for example, a debate between two guests where Jeremy is not forced to cut them off... let them go on, I want to hear what they have to say freed from the concerns of "sound bites" and TV schedules - and because I can download it, I can watch it at my leisure.
Surely that's the strength of the internet, doing things you coudlnt do before... not just reinforcing the same old sound bite, digest culture.
Thanks!
Podcasts are superb for listening to on the train. Highlights are always Jeremy P.'s interviews; I tend to speed forward to these. A monthly 'Jeremy Paxman' podcast would go down a treat!!
I like to watch live and especially with a glass of wine.
I prefer a few large items than lots of snippets.
Certainly not too long - we could do with more.
Please listen to Jeremy - I think he intuitively understands what we want.
Regards
Daphne
Yes, I download the Newsnight Podcast and also the Breakfast Takeaway. The Takeaway provides the quick snippets, so I'd prefer the Newsnight podcast to keep covering a topic in some depth (although 25 minutes is a bit long, try 15?). Sometimes I watch these on the iPod, sometimes on the Mac. I must admit that a couple of times I've been asked by iTunes if I want to remain a subscriber as I haven't watched them in a while, but I always respond 'yes' and promise myself I'll try to view more regularly. Keep up the good work.
I am still a lo-tech sofa viewer. I get the Newsnight emails sent to my work account so I know what to look out for that evening, but I wouldn't be able to download the podcasts from my work account, and the last thing I want to do when I get home is to log back on to the computer.
And travelling on the Victoria line, my tube journey is too noisy to be able to listen to a podcast in peace.
I have never downloaded the podcast, but do read the daily email about the evenings show I subscribe to.
With the daily nature of the show I would rarely be interested in what was said about yesterday's news. However to know what's coming up tonight is great.
Pete
I beleive the 25 minute or so snap shot is very good. However i am only able to watch it on my computer as i do not have a video ipod. Any chance of just putting on an audio version (I understand some of its quality may be lost due to lack of video footage however i think it is still worthwhile), unless you already are and i am just computer illiterate.
To help you with your survey i am 30 years old and from Edinburgh.
I subscribe to the daily email as I find it very useful, as it doesn't take me long to read through it and see if there is anything of interest to me. If there is I can go find it, if not, never mind.
This counts for podcasts too (hate the name - I haven't got an ipod don't want an ipod and they're useful for people without ipods!) Anyway - If i see an item i'm interested in watching I download the ipod and either wath it on my pc or on my MPeg4 player if I'm on the train. I don't subscribe to podcasts generally as I find I hardly ever watch any.
I just watch the programme as is - the drink varies with mood and availability!
I only watch podcasts on my computer, simply because my iPod doesn't support video, and I'm not shelling out for a new one yet. I stopped my Newsnight podcast subscription very soon after you launched the audio version. Often I'll see some of the programme live on ´óÏó´«Ã½2, so the podcast turned out to very repetitive. Also features from Monday's programme already seemed distant history by the following weekend.
Personally I prefer podcasts that aren't a rehash of the week's news, even if they replay what has appeared on air. Simon Mayo's podcast is a good example, as is the Radio 4 Choice podcast. Both can be topical, but neither are reliant on the dynamics of the daily news agenda.
The only video podcast I watch from the ´óÏó´«Ã½ is Storyfix - at least its an orignal piece of work. And I don't bother with the Breakfast Takeaway. I've usually managed to hear the morning's news in some form or another by the time I leave for work - either on radio or TV itself. And its quicker than booting up my computer, connecting to the Internet, opening iTunes, waiting for it to download, and then transfering it onto my iPod. I simply don't have time in the morning!
Podcasts - iPod. What are they.
This is getting very confusing for a ninety year old parson.
I get my NewsNight fill from a mixture of :
- daily emails (when I'm at work)
- audio podcast (when I'm travelling)
- TV @ 10.30 (when I get the chance)
Happy with all and don't current have a thirst for more.
daily and weekly audio podcasts are excellent for me. Please don't change them.
Thanks
Dave
I've tried downloading podcasts to listen to on my iPod, but I don't find it very compelling. I tend to use my iPod for playing background music in my office, but with podcasts like Newsnight, you actually have to pay attention and listen to them, instead of them just being background.
Guess if I was a commuter by train, I might make more use, but I stopped adding new podcasts some time ago, I just wasn't listening to them.
I usually just read this and watch the programme I couldn't be bothered with a podcast, rather like Jeremy's attitude to it all, but I have friends in the States who download because other wise they wouldn't know what was happening. Liked the special report on Russia this week.
A shorter selection of highlights would be best, Peter. I do watch the full length best of Newsnight programme on News 24 and enjoy it very much, but on my iPod I would never watch 25 minutes worth...
I do really like the weekly podcast, in fact it's about the only video I watch on my iPod. It fits the format perfectly (why try and watch feature length films on a tiny screen) and in terms of length fits nicely with my tube journey home.
In terms of the daily updates from the breakfast show, I'm not organised enough in the morning to pull out my laptop, check iTunes for updates and sync with my iPod. Plus I much prefer a roundup which will keep my attention for the afformentioned tube journey, not just for a few minutes.
Hope you find that in some way useful!
pm
Here's how I consume your podcasts (and online archives):
* audio - in the car, or other transport; so overviews, and more lengthy audio from features suits me perfectly.
* video - on my computer; I have less time to site down and watch stuff, so this is less frequent, so I either seek out a particular piece of video or watch the weekly video podcast.
I probably get a 30% 'success rate' of managing to watch video podcasts and c. 70% of audio is listened to.
I appreciate the editorial choices that have been made for me...it makes me life that bit simpler.
I am totally clueless. Don't know what a podcast is and do not have an ipod! Where we live , a smallish market town, we cannot receive DAB.So enjoy Newsnight at 10.30pm with the Ovaltine. No , we don't wear flares and drive Capri Ghia. Best wishes.
I am a avid viewer of "Newsnight," and I do endeavor not to miss it. On Thursdays, when it clashes with "Question Time," I have recorded it to watch it later. "Later" tends to be sometime over the weekend because Andrew Neil follows "Question Time" and watching "Newsnight" at 01.00 on Friday morning demands an enthusiasm that sometimes even I cannot generate.
Yet Thursday's programme on Saturday morning is no longer sparkling. Other news broadcasts and four "qualities" have invaded the household by the time I may watch Thursday's "Newsnight." The magic has gone. News is only news if it is new. "Newsnight" is often wiped from the disk.
The same is, I'm afraid,true of the othr ways of saving news programmes. I tend not to and I have not yet downloaded "Newsnight" for this very reason.
I hope my brief response to your email is helpful in your research.
Yours,
Tony Telford
I watch neither podcasts or daily digests. Far too many people are in a rush these days. Digests can easily turn into indigestion. Information overload is a very real danger in my humble opinion. I receive only the e mails to remind me when Newsnight is on and what the agenda is. The best way, as you suggest is to watch Newsnight on the sofa at 10:30 pm, glass of wine in hand and discuss the days news with a loved one, solving all the world's ills.
But as far as I'm concerned RADIO is still King and my radio keeps me informed throughout the day, whilst the TV sits mute and blind in its corner scowling out at me through its blindness until 10:30 pm.
I read the podcasts from my computer and would tranfer to iPod if they were highly topical and were important to my closest interests.
I don't always agree with the content but that's what I need to test my reasoning and understanding.
Good job.
I subscribe to the email notifications to see if there is an item of interest in the program on the day. I would use the podcast if, and only if, I had missed an item I was sufficiently interested in to justify the download bandwidth. However, what I would really like to see, is items compiled into 'folios' of topics;- stories develop over time - and so I would occasionally like to review all of the matterial on a specific topic to re-evaluate my opinions.
To fill you in on my podcast habits...My Product Red iPod nano does not support video. Therefore, I subscribe and listen everyday to one or all of the following:
- Today daily interview
- Newspod
- Radio 2 Russell Brand Show
- Newsnight weekly audio podcast
I find the Newsnight weekly roundup informative and interesting. It is just the right length - I listen to it when I'm on the train travelling around London or up and down the country. Don't go changing it and please keep the audio podcast out there!
I will also be subscribing to the daily Newsnight podcast (is that audio?) which I hadn't heard of until I read this blog.
The only thing that would perhaps be good, is alternative Newsnight podcasts that each covered one subject in depth, using material from the programme.
Keep up the good work!
The videopodcast was a lifesaver during my time in the US. The only intelligent piece of video news that i received!
My wife and I watched every episode on my mac, normally from the bed. With a large screen and the front row remote it was quite a good user experience.
I haven't listened to the radiocasts. I wouldnt listen/watch either on my ipod.
Fewer more detailed stories is a good way to go.
One day all TV will be consumed this way - on demand, on a platform of your choosing.
strikes me that you suits are under so much pressure to justify the new toys, that you will do anything to try and prove they amount to something that people actually want, as opposed to something they are happy to play with for a while like all new toys. Try charging £1 a download and then see what would happen to your numbers
I mainly work abroad, for a couple of weeks at a time. The weekly podcast is ideal. The important stories and a bit of lightness - something that is truly lacking in Vienna where I've been for the last 8 months.
A daily podcast would probably be too much trouble to bnoth download and listen to. Also a lot of issues are covered in the ´óÏó´«Ã½ news feeds and the daily email
Only thing the normal and video podcasts are very similar
i like newsnight in its usual format. at 10 30 pm when i can view alone in peace
I definitely prefer watching Newsnight on the sofa at 10:30 but I'd like a brief 25 min podcast of "a small number of big items" just in case I miss any. For the podcast I'm using my computer.
Modern technology eh? It's all well and good, but very distracting when there is work to be done. Indeed now I should be speaking to clients, organising things and shuffling pieces of paper. Instead I'm commenting on a blog that I never read, about a podcast I never listen to.
I'll stick to the old fashioned way of tuning in at 10.30pm, but keep up the good work, as I know it annoys Paxman loads.
First preference is to watch the programme live ... preferably with glass of Chateau Newsnight. But this not always possible and so ...
Second preference is to be able to "view again" - and I guess video-podcast fits this need - specific items of interest. If the topic is sufficiently important then first and second preference both apply and are not mutually exclusive.
The key point is that it is the individual items that I want to be able to view ... not your choice of the "best" and not to have to plough through the whole programme.
Keep up the good work.
I like to read the Newsnight emails in work, its good to know whats coming up on the show. The ONLY way I will ever watch Newsnight is on the sofa. I don't own a ipod, and even if I did, I wouldn't want to watch newsnight on it. I don't see the point of highlights, but having the entire show available to download is a good idea. I can see why someone may want to watch the show the following day if they missed the show for whatever reason.
As an English expat in Amsterdam, and an avid Newsnight viewer, I still listen to the weekly Newsnight audio podcast as well. I rarely have more than 2 or 3 backed up on my iPod and so what if some of the news is old, it's the analysis that's the draw for me. Plus it's even more interesting if a story has developed further since the original reporting... The daily wouldn't do it, I'm an omnibus kinda viewer/listener (vistener? liewer?)
I watch on the computer.25 minutes of a brief digest of everything is my preference.
I don't bother with 'Breakfast Takeaway' - no time, I'm too rushed!
To be honest, I can hardly stay awake long enough to see the normal Newsnight broadcast.
I'm also a little tired of the 'Paxman Style' and pretty much 'newsed-out' from so many different media sources available throughout the day.
I am becoming far more attracted to the short, sharp news bulletins broadcast by Channel 5.
Never thought I would be praising Channel 5 but perhaps it illustrates that times (and tastes) do change :-)
Cheers!
Adrian
Hi - I live in Nova Scotia Canada & listen to your podcasts; I would love a daily podcast too - wonderful!
Keep up the great work.
Regards from very chilly NS,
Louise
The podcast is downloaded automatically, when I switch on my laptop - but I don't watch it. What I'd really like is to watch Newsnight on TV, where it belongs. At the moment you cater for an audience able to enjoy the luxury of staying up until 11.30pm. A lot of us have to be up at the crack of dawn. Can we have Newsnight at 9.30 or 10.0 pm please. If that can't be done then why not an early morning repeat or a weekend digest - either as long as they're on TV where they belong.
Alex Mitchell
I live and work in the Middle East - but I have paid for a TV licence for my home in the UK. I 'consume' both the Newsnight and the Breakfast Takeaway podcasts. They are usually waiting for me when I get home from work. I transfer them to my iPod which I then plug into my TV and watch them on that. They are both excellent because they give me a little snapshot of what is happening at home, or what the big issues of the moment are. As for the length of the weekly digest, I would happily watch more - but not if it repeated the stories from the daily video podcast.
As a Brit abroad I would love more video content from the ´óÏó´«Ã½ that I can watch here. As I said before, I do pay for the licence!!
Other route - read the preview mail before leaving work then put it on Sky+ to watch in the morning if it interests me.
My 2003 MP3 player doesn't have video, and you don't support non-i-Pod MP3 players that don't use i-Tunes, so other questions irrelevant to me.
Dear Presenter,
Thank you for your concern about how we listen to newsnight. For me, most night I want to be a listener on FM 92.55 in Akwa Ibom State of Nigeria, power failure stands in between. It is always a painful experience, and I believe that with the on-going power sector reform, I will be better for it in not too distant time, God willing.
For the times I have listened to the porgramme lying on my rug carpet without a glass of wine, it is always a wonderful experience I tell you.
I watch the Newsnight podcast on my iPod at work during lunch or quiet moments (and Question Time on Friday). The 5min daily/25min weekly digest works well for me.
Presentiationally, there's not much to fault it. In terms of consistency across formats, it is a little strange to have the opening graphics without any sound - it's fundementally still a conventional broadcast, albeit non-conventional media. Question Time also seems strangely to have a different title every week.
Otherwise, very happy with the service indeed!
Life is far too short to watch podcasts. If you're doing them as a training exercise for when computing and tv are properly integrated sometime in the next decade, then fine. If they are just a the-technology-exists-we-have-to-be-a-part-of-it exercise, then drop them for now and concentrate your time (and our money) on producing the best programmes for broadcast that you can. That said, 200k is a decent number. Are the downloaders mainly from the UK (ie licence payers) or from abroad? If the latter, shouldn't the World Service (ie the Foreign Office) be paying for them?
The weekly summary is fairly useful but (large) the individual items that appear ad hoc are very good. Some I keep for future reference and would pass along the recommendation to colleagues. I suspect a lot depends on the podcast viewer software that subscribers use, I use iTunes and if there are several to download I can easily select which to get and which to ignore.
Panorama used to offer transcripts (and still does I see); perhaps some of the critical Newsnight interviews could be made available in transcript form?
Sometimes a glass of wine at 11pm is pushing the envelope for mental acquity but of course the health benefits of red wine, chocolate, etc are terribly important (and I ignore contrary health views!).
Newsnight is unique and long may it continue to maintain the very high standards it adheres to.
Neil (Oxford)
I receive your newsletter daily and when the programme looks particularly interesting I watch the whole thing online.
But then, I am retired and have the time, and it beats the ´óÏó´«Ã½ World news broadcast here in Thailand for UK issues.
Being able to watch Newsnight's latest programme on my computer is a tremendous boon. You will probably understand my dismay to recently see that the quality of the programme (in terms of pixels and sound quality) had been downgraded - presumably to 'make more available space'. Yes, I noticed that the viewing quality remains the same in the subject-specific 'specials'. The TV time-slot for Newsnight is not convenient. Plus the internet release makes it all the more flexible, in that one can scroll to the items of interest. I read the Newsnight emails to decide which parts of the programme I will watch. Despite having a packed schedule, I do read and enjoy the Editor's comments. I tried using the pod cast features, but (though I have itunes) I so far have not been able to, couldn’t figure out why. I don't have an iPod, for your information - I am at my computer most of the time. It's good work, please put the viewing quality back up, that's not an area where it’s justified to make cuts. In fact increase the number of programmes available online - instead of just the programme aired last night, offer the whole week. Please. Regards. Ziya.
I am one of the 200,000 and with my wife, we watch every extended weekly Newsnight podcast.
We have stopped listening to the Newsnight audio version as there is so much excellent audio on radio 4 for our limited time.
We watch the podcast on a Mac computer
As we live abroad we are delighted to watch decent news TV as we did over many years in the UK
I subscribe to the daily newsletter, but I don't get the podcast. I don't even care! Why bother with podcasts when what you really want is video, and you already do a weekly programme on News24 if I realy wanted a 'highlights' show. IMO, podcasts are an interim thing, until video over the internet becomes the accepted thing. I say, forget about the podcasts, and focus on making the actual video items available, either to stream or download.
I only want to occaisionally watch an item I'm interested in and missed.
A
I like your comments and try to read them daily when able. However, although computer literate - some 20 years ago – I have not advanced at the same rate. I use the computer principally for word processing, Internet emailing and some Internet research. Podcasting means little to me and until I clicked onto the 'hyperlink' I didn't know what it was. Breakfast Takeaway is of the same ilk.
I don't know the age of 'your' readers and finding this, I suggest might be of help to you and your researchers. I'm 74 shortly but do not speak ‘jargonise’ or carry little boxes that talk to each other; although I do have a mobile and frequently use for texting rather than a phone unless of courses it’s an emergency. I find I don’t need these ‘electronic magic boxes’ – well not yet.
I did once try to access the podcast but was unable to. I don't have an ipod. As I watch Newsnight each night I don't really see the point of a podcast, although as I haven't seen one I may be missing something. Newsnight available on the web is very useful. The one very irritating thing is when an edition is not available because of some rights problem with a piece of film. Could you not just leave that bit out and make the rest of the programme available?
i watch newsnight live.if i miss it i replay the programme at a later date ,usually the following day.i dont know anything about podcasts-should i benefit by them.
I like the weekly podcast as a summary of the week. I find the daily ones a nuisance. I record Newsnight every day on my Sky+ box so I can see anything I missed and would prefer not to find individual items on my computer.
I just love watching from my sofa. Best part of the TV day is Newsnight.
I really value the weekly Video Podcast. I miss so many programmes in real time that it gives me the overview/best bits that keep me in touch with your journalism.
Please keep delivering it to my iTunes Library to keep my iPod loaded.
The latter. Or rather, just now over a cuppa, on my PC.
I truly appreciate the next-day re:view facility, and would only wish that this could be extended to all programmes and archived for permanent access at any future point.
I already view most news programmes with some caution as to the agenda being served by the selection of guests, editing and overall content. This would be further compounded by any cut down sample.
Already I dismiss any snippet of an interviewee's comments without having access to the full exchange and context.
I just tried the Breakfast Takeway link above on my Mac to see how much of Scotland wind power will supply us all by next Tuesday, but sadly it offered my Mac/Firefox combo with no more than a vast screed of error data.
I think I'll keep it live as much as I can. These days there may be fact.. or was it Memorex?
A concise round up of the key issues with an occasional injection of humour! 25 minutes is fine. And i watch the podcasts on my video IPod. I live in the USA and I find your 'product' a useful means of keeping abreast of what is going on in the 51st State.
I'm a semi-old-fashioned ex-pat who still wants to know what's going on in the old country.
Got to get on with my current life - not retired yet!
So a brief digest for me is fine to read on the computer. Definitely with a glass of wine but not at 10:30pm GMT (time difference!)
You're doing a great job,
Alison Ayala
I watch Newsnight on my laptop religiously every day. But I also download the three most recent Newsnight video podcast to my wife's ipod and she watches them every Wednesday when she travels from Norwich to London. So both versions are of great benefit to us. This is of course apart from the fact that Newsnight is by far the best and most informative and comprehensive current affair programmes on any TV Channels.
Your E Mails telling me the contents of the evenings programme are very helpful to me, it lets me decide whether to watch or not !
I still long for the days when you really got to grips with certain topics, you must admit that on the whole you have gone very soft, I know that in these days of PC you have to be careful, its the same with the News, on some occasions after hearing an item I switch to ITV to get the real story
´óÏó´«Ã½ is excellent way to keep up with news, in all available forms. It is good to be able to read artiicles when the headline indicates it is interesting. I thank you for all output.
I enjoy downloading 'Newsnight' as an MP3 file, and then I listen to it on my CD player or on my computer. I don't download it every week, but I do so fairly often.
However, getting the daily newsletter, I wish there was some way to get the program talked about in its entirety. For example, I much wanted to listen to the show you had on recently about the Islamic school in London with the textbooks on 'hate'. However, I found I could only download (as a listening file) the previous week's summary. I am going to try downloading this week's summary tomorrow, Saturday, and hopefully there will something on it there. But I would have rather had the whole thing.
Matthew Burgess
What is a Podcast? What is a Blog? I don't think I have time for all this! Life is too short.
I get the e-mail and RSS feed (often too late even though I don't leave my desk before 6pm) - decide whether to watch in realtime and never download a podcast. If a piece I've missed is discussed on the blogs'n'boards - Guido, Dale, Popbitch, Editors etc - I can watch it streamed off the site. But then I'm seldom more than half an hour away from broadband at any time of day.
I have more of a maximalist attitude to your podcasts,picking out the highlights of the week doesnt always work for me -- if i cant get to see Newsnight a particular night, more often than not the one piece i thought sounded really interesting from your pre broadcast email isn't covered in the podcast.How about having each nights full show as a podcast but with an electronic tag/bookmark separating out each piece in the show so you can jump to what interests you -- it would also be a great way for you to see which pieces are popular from an audiance point of view, just my 2 pennies worth.
Hi Newsnight, and Peter,
Thanks for the offer of various options to view Newsnight, but I still prefer the conventional method of the sofa, but with a bottle of wine. Cheers! to you and your team.
Jackie Domingo
I read them daily on my computer so that i have an idea as to what is of not eoth watching on newsnight. Not everything is alwayging to be of interest to me but i can choose what to watch, it might not suit everyone but it is fine for me thankyou, if others want chage i will gladly go along without comlaint, as i said it suits me.
Sorry Peter, I don't watch any of the podcasts but I greatly enjoy the interview archives.
Still prefer 10.30pm Mon-Fri, on the sofa with a glass of milk & salmon sandwich.
However, it would be interesting to see what viewers thought was the 'interview of the week, and/or the item of the week. Could we have a vote?
I go through nearly all the emails you send - I skip some when I have been too busy at the office but for which I would meticulously go through ea em. Over all I prefer a digest rather long drawn out detail on one topic.
"Almost completely clueless"
At last, a ´óÏó´«Ã½ headline that actually tells the truth about the ´óÏó´«Ã½!
Sorry, cheap shot but I couldn't resist. The way I watch media now has been revolutionised over the last couple of years. Most everything I watch is now 'on demand'. I choose when and what to watch, and even from which country I want to watch programmes from. I see this as the inevitable way forward for broadcasting. 10 min after a programme is broadcast in any country it is now available on-line (P2P or BitTorrent) and many more people are taking up these opportunities. The ´óÏó´«Ã½ needs to catch up, and it is good that you are asking us these questions. But the biggest question surely is...what place for the TV-tax in such a world? I would suggest there will no longer be a place (even if you believe there is one now), and that to avoid people just downloading from illegal sites, the ´óÏó´«Ã½ and all other broadcasters should go to a pay-per-view on-demand format.
Hello Peter
I would far rather continmue to receive the EMails rather than a podcast as I have so much material to get through each day
Warmest regards and keep up the good work
Peter gooch
lots of folk gotta audio ipod, not so many a video one, audio also more useful in the car etc.
I love lying in bed watching the last tv of the day for me.
keep up the good work
I love lying in bed watching, the last tv of the day for me.
keep up the good work
Hi Newsnight, and Peter,
You asked about wether I would like my podcasts long or short.
Personally I would like a brief version first with the option of opening up a more detailed story to follow if that would be possible.
Thanks a lot TONY.
As someone living in Spain and unable to see your programme live or via the old-fashioned 'iPod' of radio, I very much appreciate the modern ways of keeping up to date with news and views in the UK. Not having an iPod, I only use the computer, and as such 25 mins is fine!
Hi
Rather like other peoples comments I use the daily e-mail to sway my viewing decision for the evening.
I do download the (non-video) podcast each week. I will make time to listen to this if I have missed a significant number of episodes during the week. I have no issues with the 25 minute format although I feel too much of this is dedicated to newsnight review.
Tell us how you watch it and we'll aim to oblige. Or indeed if your preferred way is still: on the sofa, 10.30pm, possibly with a glass of wine. In my case Glass of beer.
Keep up the good work
Brian Scurr
I enjoy reading the podcasts on my computer and if there was an article that I was particularly interested in I would down load it.Keep up the good work!!
When we finally get round to updating our computer (1999 Windows 98!) in a month or two when Vista has settled down, I shall maybe be able to download a podcast and watch it. Oh brave new world! At present I can only wait and wonder what all the fuss is about.
Meanwhile thanks for Newsnight which is a good programme. These days, that is quite a compliment!
I enjoy reading the podcasts on my computer and if there was an article that I was particularly interested in I would down load it.Keep up the good work!!
Dear Newsnight crew,
thank you for this opportunity to feedback. I now see most of my media online, and much prefer the ability to pick and choose. Were it not for this I would have missed JP's repeated "how many beds for servicemen" to the veterans Minister (I don't think the expletives that left my lips are repeatable for your more fragile viewers) I am an ex-servicemen injured in my line of duty on operations in Northern Ireland, I missed the story as it was breaking regarding injured soldiers treatment and I know it is woefully inadequate. If the veterans Minister considers the modern NHS as "world-class treatment" I suggest he has CT/MRI/head or cheaper still a plain skull x-ray (saving on precious resources) to see if his brain is still there.
Back to what you originally asked for, I do enjoy the daily e-mails, and will look out for the weekly review podcast. The breakfast taster is slightly to saccharin for me.
Keep on trucking,
J. G.
a 21st century digital digester.
I haven't got a 'Pod! I do read your column daily & quite often think 'I will click on the address & make a comment or ask a question' - but then I go on & read the rest of the emails or have to answer some & then I don't go back to yours!!However, I do enjoy reading them & I do watch the programm later. Typical member of the public I'm afraid!
I still watch in bed, a bit uncomfortable with the ipod at the moment
Waiting for my son or daughter to do it for me first before I try it myself.
first, i love the newsnight video podcasts, the weekly and the daily. they're a great idea.
however, the problem with the weekly podcast is that - like most podcasts today - it can't be navigated easily. you have to watch it all the way through, you can't just skip to the stories that will interest you. until podcasting developes some track-based navigation device, i prefer the smaller, single issue podcasts. it's easier to find five minutes to watch one story than to find 25 minutes to watch one weekly update.
This e-mail thing is a good idea and you should keep it up. It prompts me to go watch TV, lidsten to radio, get the news through computer or retrieve it from the blog if there is a news item that interests me. Of course, the choice of medium depends upon my schedule for the day and where I happen to be on a given day.
I would prefer to get a lot of news in brief form than just a few items in detail.
Thank you for the good service you are providing.
Sarwar Sukhera
being of the older generation I would not recognise this Ipod thing were I to meet it on the street but please continue the podcast that I might watch it on the PC.Ocasionally have to miss the 10.30 slot due to domestic circumstances (she who must be obeyed at all times without question), been avid follower of Newsnight for longer than I care to remember and may I dare to suggest that jeremy is getting soft in his latter years.
keep up the good work
Cheers Mick
I rarely listen to the radio - so an audio broadcast isn't my thing. I prefer watching something on my laptop instead.(Of course watching real time on TV is the best!). Daily e-mails are great too :-).I like having the Newsnight on the web everyday too. Keep up the brilliant work.
I use your daily e-mail as a preview, a source of humour between two slaves when the computers are keeping us in our seats and a point of information to keep up to speed when all current affairs seem to be coming at a different timescale to my absorptionrate! But yes you have it, I do love current affairs, hearing what you have unearthed and how the world is still churning and turning when I am sitting relaxed,with a fine wine and able to be totally absorbed.Whatever you do PLEASE don't discard the daily e-mail as being 'old hat, past it or redundant some of us don't plod,blog or even want to.
I use your daily e-mail as a preview, a source of humour between two slaves when the computers are keeping us in our seats and a point of information to keep up to speed when all current affairs seem to be coming at a different timescale to my absorptionrate! But yes you have it, I do love current affairs, hearing what you have unearthed and how the world is still churning and turning when I am sitting relaxed,with a fine wine and able to be totally absorbed.Whatever you do PLEASE don't discard the daily e-mail as being 'old hat, past it or redundant some of us don't plod,blog or even want to.
....I love and enjoy your daily Newsnight e-mails on my laptop and dislike podcasts, ipods and these sort of things. For us here in Canada the ´óÏó´«Ã½ is doing an excellent job with their brief descriptions and much better to read than other news e-mails. Keep it up, best regards.
Dieter Reimers(Toronto)
We don't get Newsnight broadcast here in Deepest Africa, probably because Newnight is too oriented towards UK news. But, as an expat, I WANT to know what's going on in Blighty after a hard day in the veldt. That makes me part of a niche market that can be easily and cheaply addressed by podcasts and suchlike.
Whatever makes Peter Barron think that because I subscribe to Newsnight e-mail I might be the sort of person who wants to download to an iPod. Who are these people who have the time to spend following yesterdays's news (or even worse last week's news). As sad as eating last night's fish and chips and reading yesterday's papers while doing it (sorry I know that dates me).
I would like to watch the segment of my choosing. I am in America and I love your show. So, I cannot watch on the couch at 10:30. I catch up with the program at work during my lunch time. This is why I'd like to be able to select only a segment. I don't have time in my lunch hour to watch the whole show.
Thank you!
Yes, my preferred method is still on the sofa with a glass of wine (for watching your program I mean) but since I'm in the US that isn't an option.
The audio podcast is great for me. I listen to it in the car every Monday. I'm not yet technologically erudite enough to watch the video version but I'm sure my 14 year old son will get me there soon.
I understand Jeremy Paxman's point that I'm being a freeloader (since I'm not paying the licence fee) so maybe a modest annual charge (say to download all ´óÏó´«Ã½ radio programmes) might even be acceptable.
Keep it up.
I rarely listen to the radio - so an audio broadcast isn't my thing. I prefer watching something on my laptop instead.(Of course watching real time on TV is the best!). Daily e-mails are great too :-).Keep up the great work. As for the issue of a subscription based service - channels such as Fox News, Sky News, CNN, Al-Jazeera and many others, all offer it for free, so why would anyone pay?
I'm overseas and regularly watch the show via the "Latest Programme" link directly on my laptop, propped up in bed, wine or guiness in hand. Atypical? Perhaps.
Don't ever download podcasts (don't have an iPod). Much appreciate the service.
I would like to be able to watch all or any of the items again, not just the "highlights". I'm overseas and read the e-mail every day. The only time I've wanted to watch a particular item (the recent one on Rwanda) it wasn't available as a podcast. So if it were possible I'd like everything to be available for podcast, and we choose whether or not to download it. A format like the ´óÏó´«Ã½ News's daily e-mail would be great - headline, one-line summary, and click for the full news story.
Thanks and keep up the good work.
i like the idea of podcasts but have never seen one - we live in Dubai (one of the most censored places on the planet) so all such data appears to be blocked.
Even newspaper delivery is restricted if seen to be critical of the landowner / property developer - this is affecting thousands of expats in Dubai.
Mark Road
I hope you stick with these. I don't think they will truly take off until cheaper portable video players come along soon.
I would definitely download and watch these on a train journey but, lacking a portable player, at the moment I am more likely to watch the evening show on the website.
Also I would prefer full programmes to be available for download.
Having spent the last 14 years in Aus, please keep up the good work.
I check Newsnight daily and home into areas of particular interest.
I do not have an i-pod but my daughter is insisting that I take over hers as she upgrades. When this happens, the audio I-pod cast will get a bashing from me.
Tell the Mandarins that I also subscrbe to ´óÏó´«Ã½ news and Breaking News.
For light relief, I also get NBC and is this light.
Between you all, I overcome the blinkered Australian press, but I love the standards that ´óÏó´«Ã½ set themselves.
For example, some months ago when an American Airmarshal shot the first potential terrorist dead I got the news from ´óÏó´«Ã½ Breaking News, 12 hours later it was fully reported on the ´óÏó´«Ã½ News. 24 hours later it hit NBC and the Aussie papers got it 2 days later.
And so, I am well informed but I still can"t get it through to the locals that poms don't drink warm beer.
Go for it-
Mike
I used to download the podcasts but I don't bother any longer because I never got around to listening to them. Good idea to charge £1 each and see how many people still download! Many of the people who enjoy them seem to be from outside the U.K.
The daily email is fantastic, please don't ever stop sending it.
And Gavin's lighthearted remarks are much appreciated. Perhaps a little personal remark from the other presenters, and producers, from time to time would remind us that they're not just "serious jounalists" (we know that) but real people with real lives and real opinions. However Jeremy doesn't need to, we know he's a real person!
The problem is simple.
Traditional media outlets think of the internet as a way to attract an audience to their existing medium (be that broadcast, print or anything else).
So what do you do? You offer us soundbites, clips, trailers.
People couldn't give a monkeys about those.
People want depth, they want uncensored material with real background.
You and your counterparts in film and the papers must learn this lesson soon.
Example, I've had Digital TV since the Sky platform launched.
Not long afterwards both Sky News and News 24 had the option to watch a short summary of news headlines on interactive.
Totally & utterly pointless - both channels provide streaming news (so you know if something's breaking) and headlines every 15 minutes.
As a viewer, I have no idea how upto date the looped headlines are, I can't expect an indepth look at the stories which interest me and have to view (in the case of News 24) the footage in a little window rather than fullscreen.
I'm young, very IT literate and have an interest in News/Current Affairs. If you cant sell your podcasts or interactive media to me, who do you sell them to?!
Daphne Clark has made the most intelligent and perceptive comment on this posting. 'Listen to Jeremy, he instinctively understands what we want'.
To that I would say balance it up with the views of Paul Mason. I don't have a telly, so I watch Newsnight 'live' on the internet. Catching up later is a bit 'second best' as the quality isn't quite as sharp.
The problem with the podcasting culture [speaking as someone who doesn't own an iPod] is that the 'cherry picking' of 'things you are interested in' goes against the culture of Newsnight and, say, R4 - that we should be exposed to things which are new and different.
One only has to look at the dreadful 'StoryFix' [news in 'high velocity'] tosh to realise the dangers of going down the 'slimmed down' route with less depth to fewer reports.
NO I dont pod cast or want to
but get this info on my PC
Let people read a book on the train or listen to music -some still do
Youngsters will appreciate this fad but only a small pecentage use it for news
I appreciate you have to use every tool -
The world still has VHS tapes and cassettes and 3 1/2 discs
Trouble is with all this micro-cosm
these kids will be blind bt the time they are 25
So sound will be preferable to vision
"Do you watch the podcasts on your iPod, or just watch them on your computer?"
What happened to the option "Don't watch them at all because they are crap"?
Well I like to watch nightly - it rounds the day off for me. If I miss something, through switching on late - whatever - then I watch it again the following day on the website.
I'm afraid I have never watched the podcast because I have no need to. I'm a regular viewer of the original.
The podcast could aim to be slightly different, I suppose (might already) but it seems to me it would be a good idea to flag that up unambiguously - as Newsnight.alt - or something along those lines.
10.30 pm, a relaxing glass of wine and Newsnight. Perfect.
And quite enough for one devotee.
Leave the technical innovations to those who want them but please don't change the basic format.
I remember the days when I was sipping a glass of something at 10.30pm sitting on the sofa in South Bucks - however, with the time difference I am generally sitting in Philadelphia traffic on my way home to Bucks County, Pennsylvania.
Oh how I would love to see Jeremy or Kirtsy tear strips off the folk over here - The politicians are pampered by very compliant politicised news reporters - and when they want objective quality journalism here - they subcontract and import ´óÏó´«Ã½...
Technology isn't my strong point, and these (audio)podcasts have been a steep learning curve. But they are a bit of a nine-days' wonder. And it is very annoying not to be able to select an item halfway through to hear again.
Like so many people, I prefer to watch the actual transmission, though too much wine may lead to waking up just as the credits are rolling - so I tend to keep a tape in the video-recorder to ensure I don't miss anything I really want to hear.
The point about Thursdays that has already been made is a very valid one. I too record the Thursday Newsnight for later viewing - I suspect a fair number of people do.
What I would like is podcasts made up of a sequence of items on a particular topic. For example, what has been going on in Afghanistan, or Education and the Muslims, or Where the money goes in the health service.
I would keep these to check against future developments, match past promises with present shortcomings, etc.
I remember the days when I was sipping a glass of something at 10.30pm sitting on the sofa in South Bucks - however, with the time difference I am generally sitting in Philadelphia traffic on my way home to Bucks County, Pennsylvania.
Oh how I would love to see Jeremy or Kirtsy tear strips off the folk over here - The politicians are pampered by very compliant politicised news reporters - and when they want objective quality journalism here - they subcontract and import ´óÏó´«Ã½...
I used to get the audio podcasts every week till just before Christmas, when they wouldn't come through iTunes to me. However, by then I was regarding them as a bit of a nine-days' wonder.
It's best to tune in to the TV at the proper time - although too much wine does sometimes mean I wake up when the credits are rolling, so I usually tape it as well.
Future podcasts - perhaps we could have some on topics: collected news and interviews over the weeks on such things as the situation in Afghanistan, Muslims and Education, Finance in the Health Service, etc.
I usally watch from the comfort of my sofa with a beer or coffee depends on the type of day I've had but I always check my newsnight email giving details of the nights programme before hand
While at home in the UK, Newsnight was my favourite news programme. Now that I'm abroad and I haven't the luxury of the ´óÏó´«Ã½ at home, I am very reliant on the video podcast. I watch it in the mornings on the bus on the way to work. It is an essential way to keep linked to the UK and to international news presented sensibly. You won't be surprised, therefore, to know that I want more and more of the stuff. Filling my 40 minute journey every morning would be ideal, even though the news arrives to me the day after.
Audio podcast is great ! Never miss it.. easy to listen to, no need for video iPod. Please keep it up..
All i can do is read the txt on my pc as the video sometimes splutters and that is too annoying and although I have tried to download onto my MP3 I still have not managed that yet. I do enjoy a good read though.
I used to get the audio podcast but just before Christmas iTunes wouldn't let me do this any more, and not being very clued-up technologically, I couldn't do anything about it. But I was beginning to think of it as a nine-days' wonder by then, anyway.
A rocking-chair and a glass of wine is a much better bet - except that too much wine can mean I wake up when the credits are rolling, so I sometimes tape it as well if there is something I am particularly interested in.
Could we have podcasts on particular topics, perhaps, to keep for archive purposes? - e.g. what is happening in Afghanistan, Health Service finance, Muslims and Education?
KT see
As a tech related company, who work in an emerging kiosk terminal enclosure manufacturing market we see that emerging technologies are slow to take, but they are grasping the real concept when they come back time and tima again to use that service. Podcasts are new and thus if the ´óÏó´«Ã½ were to continue think you will see the numbers rise. Keep up the good creative thinking.
I am also freeloading as I am in Sri Lanka, but the opportunity to see and hear Newsnight is a lifeline! I value both the audio and video podcasts, although the audio podcast is probably more useful as you can do other things while listening to it in the background. I use it as a substitute for radio as there is no spoken word radio station over here and news reporting is scant. I think the length is just right and you seem to manage to squeeze a lot in.
The daily emails and the editor's blog are well written and interesting and I look forward to receiving them. If I didn't get them I wouldn't remember to log on to your website and read some of the reporters' blogs from time to time. It can be a little frustrating to just get a trailer of the reports to come if you have no way of actually seeing it that night. But now I can download the video podcast I can finally get to see what happened!
I didn't know about the Breakfast Takeaway until you mentioned it in your email, so that's also a possibility. However, there are so many news podcasts available that I'm not sure another one is necessary. Newsnight has a different angle and level of analysis so is a welcome addition to plain news.
I still don't really know what a podcast is, I dont have an I-pod so I assume it is something that doesnt realy conecrn me. I love getting the daily e-mails which I read, I usually watch most of the program, but if I notice something particularly interesting in the e-mail, I make sure I am at home in time to watch the whole show. Keep up the good work. By the way, I think you have by far the most obsessed web team I know. You bend over backwards to find out what we want and then try and provide it, this is impressive.
I love the live programme (record it and watch it deferred the next day) and I love the podcasts. I am not about to switch to video podcasts, as the whole point of a podcast for me is to relax, without having to stare into a screen or another - I already do it all day long at work and at home.
Longer, in-depth pieces are fine, as long as the subject is interesting.
I subscribe to lots of podcasts - I bought my iPod exclusively for that - mainly background to the news, international affairs, geopolitics.
Keep up the good work and don't dumb it down, please!
I find the daily e-mails helpful enough. I would not listen to a daily podcast. I can always switch on the radio/tv if an item is sufficiently compelling.
I find the daily e-mails sufficient. I would not listen to a podcast.
Thanks for these.
1-daily email useful, tho I don't always read it.
2-I use pc, not ipod (I don't subscribe to new technology till I need it)
3-I'd like a weekly or monthly round-up,short as poss, + longer reports that I could look at depending on how the round-up grabbed me, or to cover items I half slept through - & that's a comment on the hours I keep, not the content, I promise !
4-most importantly - keep up the good work, it's not your fault the programme's on too late for me
I subscribed to the Newsnight website when I was living in Nepal (working as a volunteer). Other than when I was in Kathmandu (aka Dogmandu, those who've been there will know why) I had no access to English language TV news. I couldn't watch Newsnight, but I wanted an alternative view of the news, so I subscribed to the Newsnight internet service. I welcomed the snippets I received in e-mails, but I couldn't watch Newsnight. In addition, since my e-mail was dial-up and very slow (think UK 7 years ago) I couldn't download any programmes or podcasts. A bit frustrating
In summary - good service, but as you are an internet service, please think about those people who can only access the internet, and don't have access to broadband.
Dear Peter
Most of the people who botherd to sign up for Newsnight email probably live buisy lives, so for me personally an end of the week briefing would be great (I work away 2 weeks on 2weeks off, I came home today & had 76 emails)
So in answer to your question I have actually watched 1 Podcast by the Main Man Jerrimy & he didn'nt seem very interested in doing it-which I dont really blame him 4 as if you want a news analysis you should watch it "live".
Best Regards
Bernard J. Moss
P.S. He did have a tear in his eye when he found out his roots in " Who do u Tink u are"
Dear Newsnight,
Please employ some presenters who did not go to public school. Jeremy Paxman, Gavin Esler, Martha Kearney, Mark Urban and erstwhile host Jeremy Vine are just some of the privately-educated brigade who dominate your line-up. Please prod your public school-loving editors and wake them up to the fact that 93 per cent of the population go to state schools and should be represented among Newsnight journalists.
Email gets read occasionaly. Can't watch the programme every night. Audio podcast is essential and could easily be made longer to cover stories in greater depth. If people don't want to listen then can always fast forward. Vodcast I don't bother with.
I agree very much with this posters comment:
"I'd like to see much larger in depth pieces that were too long to broadcast due to time restrictions."
For example on tonights programme concerning britains children had some very interesting points made by the guests and I would have certainly liked to hear more. In fact all your guests tonight were spot on.
Other than that Im the type that doesnt use an I pod so Im fine watching news on my laptop. Just dont go like ITN who used to be good but have turned in to a cartoon.
I would enjoy Newsnight a lot more if it didn't end after half an hour when Newsnight Scotland cuts in. Why not arrange to continue showing Proper Newsnight as an option if I press the red button?
As a busy mum and student I find the email useful to pick out current issues I am interested in to consider the issues and points of view that I might not otherwise come across. I particularly like the ethical man articles that puts the things I care about into a real life context. Newsnight is sometimes a bit late for me but I look forward to seeing the podcast the following day. Love my newsnight, keep up the good work!
less smearing and let all sides have their say..... and i MEAN all sides
I would like to see more information about Iran and other states the U.S wants to destroy.
Although a superb show, 25 minutes is too long to download (for me). I'd much prefer to have the 'segments' made available that I could download.
Keep up the great work!