Meeting Angelina
An interesting thing about interviewing A-list Hollywood celebrities is that you are rarely left alone with them. And they don't come more A-list than Angelina Jolie.
I went to New York to talk to her about her new film, , directed by Clint Eastwood. We had our own suite at the Waldorf Astoria hotel, and the luxury of a full 25 minutes with Ms Jolie.
Usually, the PR company, who are paid by the distributors of the film, arrange filming with obvious publicity shots of the film behind the interviewee, and control the amount of time with a star - routinely between four and seven minutes, strictly timed. The room is usually full of people, make-up artists; publicists; those who hold the stopwatch and tell you when to wrap up. The level of control is staggering.
Moments before Angelina (celebrity culture breeds a rather odd familiarity) arrived, a young woman came into the room and said in a contrived, casual manner: "Oh by the way, no personal questions, please".
I more or less ignored her. Although there had been much in the press about how she was losing weight (she had just recently given birth to twins) and how there were rumours of an estrangement between her and the father of her children, Brad Pitt, and naturally, the PR really wanted to avoid stories about her life, but focussed instead, on the film, I also knew that I would do what I always do: gauge how comfortable the interviewee is with any question, let alone a personal one.
And then, she walked in. I interview a lot of very famous people and am not prone to be being star-struck. But I was nervous, because the level of management in the movie business can turn perfectly nice, ordinary people into aloof, prima donnas. And there was the added anxiety of control.
But she walked in alone, and we were without any PR interference for the entire interview. I am sure that is partly why Angelina Jolie was relaxed, engaging and the kind of person I could easily have spent a day with, just shooting the breeze.
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And for all the constraints of such interviews imposed by PRs, she mentioned Brad in her first answer, talked about her children and the importance of family life to her, and how she really will not carry on acting for very much longer. She plans to do fewer and fewer movies and more and more work with children's charities around the world, which has given her more purpose than she ever had.
She is one of the least controlled celebrities I have met, and it accounts for the ease she conveys. Obviously, she lives in a rarefied world, far removed from ordinary life for the majority, but the encounter proved to me that she revealed a down-to-earth quality which may otherwise have been lost or muted, had there been zillions of people faffing around her.
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At 13th Nov 2008, 27 wrote:Angelina spent a week on location at a place I used to work when she was filming the first Tomb Raider film a few years ago. Our paths crossed from time to time over the week and she always said hi and was an extremely grounded and pleasant individual who at the time had no entourage floating around at all. Genuinely beautiful too, which was a surprise and is a rare thing in the current celebrity mad world. Nice girl.
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Comment number 2.
At 13th Nov 2008, jon112uk wrote:How interesting - up to now I always had exactly the oposite image of her.
Perhaps the absence of management/PR has done her a favour here?
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Comment number 3.
At 13th Nov 2008, Edwin Cheddarfingers wrote:Every once in a while we come across celebrities who are in fact genuine and it brings a smile to my face to find they're not all living in a dreamworld.
It's nice to hear Angelina is one of those people as it's always the impression I got. Kylie Minogue is another example and it's these people that deserve to have the press shunned for them when the press makes up utter nonsense and gossip for the sake of sales without care for the feelings of these real people.
I think if I ever met one of these celebrities who are genuinely nice I'd have to tell them I look up to them, not for being successful, but for remaining down to earth and human in spite of the corrupting influence success all to often brings because success is all to often gained undersevedly nowadays but the way people respond in the face of success is what tells a real story about how good a person someone really is. Again, it's lovely to hear Angelina is one of these people and that Kylie and maybe one or two select others aren't the only ones who have had the strength and resolve to stay human.
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At 13th Nov 2008, LeftofMao wrote:She's classic beautiful and a great actress (Girl Interrupted). Your comment about her being the "least controlled" celebrity you have met is interesting. She's so young (at least from my perspective) that she hasn't yet learned to guard herself. I hope she gets better at keeping a low profile.
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At 13th Nov 2008, tacrepus wrote:Firstly, isn't this something of a sad indictment of those who are taken in by the modern day plague that is the cult of celebrity? The fact that someone is singled out for priase simply for being polite, frieindly and accommodating is indicative of everything that is wrong with how the Hollywood myth making machine has become so powerful and persuasive. These qualities are the least we should be demanding of those elevated to the highly paid and priviliged world of the celebrity.
Secondly, why is this article appearing in a column under the Arts & Culture banner? Miss Jolie's movies may be many things but they are certainly neither art nor culture. If Ms Iqbal really wishes to write pieces that are little more than insubstantial entertainment fluff then, perhaps, she should place them elsewhere.
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At 13th Nov 2008, Ruth wrote:I think it's great that AJ is going to put her kids before her career but millions of women do it every day without a jot of praise or attention. They also have to sacrifice a lot to do it. I doubt AJ will have to sacrifice anything!
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At 13th Nov 2008, wondrousCynd wrote:Tacrepus, acting = art. I think she's a fabulous actress. Nice to know that she's down to earth and not like the rest of Hollywood.
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At 14th Nov 2008, RUBIIa wrote:Thank you Ms. Iqbal for sharing your experience in meeting Ms Jolie. I do enjoy reading about huge stars such as Ms. Jolie been so natural and down-to-earth instead of the lurid of tabloids.
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At 14th Nov 2008, dennisjunior1 wrote:Thanks Ms. Iqbal for the excellent blog updated about the meeting with Angelina Jolie.
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At 15th Nov 2008, crystalebele wrote:i always saw Jolie in that light--she and Chalize....i hope she keeps it up though.
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At 15th Nov 2008, Thorfrost wrote:I've had the pleasure of meeting Angelina (someone i've been a fan of since her Gia days) albeit briefly and she was lovely, very charming and very warm also, my limited experience of meeting 'celebrities' hasn't always been nice but she was great to chat to quickly and very open to everyone around her.
I'm glad that this has been written, i do agree that it's rare not to find a selfish and rather spoilt Hollywood star which is a shame considering it's the people who buy the movie tickets that put them in the fortunate position they're in.
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Comment number 12.
At 17th Nov 2008, Raziaiqbal wrote:Razia Iqbal here: thanks for all your comments. to tacrepus: we constantly have the debate about what constitutes art and culture, and what is entertainment. Cinema is clearly an artform, but is also part of the world of entertainment and much of that can be defined as fluff. However, I wrote about meeting Angelina Jolie because I wanted to share some thoughts about how that world of cinema marketing is controlled, and how in some ways we can become complicit in it, just by agreeing to terms set by PR companies. The strength and character in an individual to stand apart from that is noteworthy.
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Comment number 13.
At 19th Nov 2008, lookout1986 wrote:I agree completely with Razia...cinema is absolutely a form of art. Let's not forget that Jolie has done some spectacular work in her time (Gia) and some not so spectacular (Tomb Raider). It seems rather tunnel visioned to dismiss a form of art because it is relatively new, or because it appeals to a mass market.
Jolie satisfies the general criteria for an artist and an entertainer, mixing highbrow work with "fluff" as it has been referred to. Whilst I agree that it is slightly disappointing that celebrity is top of the pyramid, we can't deny that the stars are using their celebrity for good and noble causes; something the politicians seem to be having trouble with these days.
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