A cool reception in cold Turkey
- 28 Nov 06, 10:36 AM
Good morning from café 57 here in a chilly Istanbul.
We've just set up the laptops having spent the early part of the morning reading the local papers, and getting a feel for what the mood really is like here in the heart of this city, ahead of the Pope's arrival.
Istanbul is as busy as ever this morning, just outside my window on the narrow streets of Feridiye Caddesi, trucks and cars are rattling by and although there's a chill in the air our hosts at the Piramid Art Centre have cranked up the heating and are plying us with plenty of coffee..Always welcome..
Well the in Ankara very soon, with some of the tightest security this country has seen in recent years. he was embarking on, "..a trip of dialogue, brotherhood and reconciliation at this difficult moment in history..."
And it is very difficult. Mass demonstrations at the weekend urging him to stay away by some Muslims, and more are planned today despite many editorials in the daily newspapers ..
Many have been saying to us that they just want to wait and see what he has to say before they pass judgement on him being here, other however have told us that he is simply causing more offence by going ahead with this planned visit.
We really want to hear from Turkey today, and if you are in Istanbul why not pop along to the Piramid Art Centre and join us in café 57. We'd love to hear from you, just drop us an email with your contact details and we'll be in touch.
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I hope for a reconciliation between the different faiths of the world.
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It is worth remembering that Pope John Paul, Pope Benedict's immediate predecessor, forgave the Turkish man who had seriously wounded him in an assassination attempt and visited him in jail.
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I have just read candadai's remarks that the pope has forgiven the turkish man who had seriously wounded him. i m moslem from pakistan and would like to appreciate pope's this sort of behaviour. i as a moslem welcome him to a moslem country turkey and it is his first visit to turkey.
Usman Amjad, Dera Ghazi Khan, Pakistan.
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In the United States when a foreign ambassadors visits we as a nation want to hear them out for what they have to say. So far from what I have seen and heard the people of Turkey are being very narrow minded and if they are protesting a man of our faith trying to make a bridge of friendship and peace toward the Muslim world.
This has a great potential because of the subject of the trip. The visit could curb violence by uniting religions of the world and help in the peace process greatly.
Kevin DiNarda
North Canton Ohio
United States
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Listening today to WHYS, I was pleasantly surprised to hear so many people saying the Pope was welcome in Turkey.
However, I am always dismayed when Islam is portrayed in a negative and/or violent light or as an intolerant culture, individuals in Islamic Countries riot and give credence to the claims the Muslims are rioting against.
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Its amazing that pop receive a welcome in Turkey otherwise I was expacting like welcome of Bush in Indoneshia.
Pop's visit to turkey is a good sign & bring good hope for betterment of prevailing world crises along with tolerance in interfaith behaviour's.
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This may sound harsh. First let me say, yes I know- the last Pope forgave the man who...
This Pope Knew what he was saying and knew the reaction it would cause. How in the world can you be a leader and authority figure and not know these basics? He did it on purpose. Why? I don't know if it's to Incite Violence- which he would surely have immunity from prosecution for- so I will not say that.
Muslims are right to protest this.
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There is something I find disturbing about there being a significant number of Moslems who protest the Pope's visit to Turkey because of what he said about Islam. Many Moslems expect, even demand the right to travel to Non Moslem countries despite having said equally defamatory words about those whose country they are visiting. They seem to have one set of rules and standards for Non Moslems visiting Moslem countries and another for Moslems visiting Non Moslem countries. This can include even the right to break the laws of the country they are visiting if their customs don't conform to them. Examples are arranged child marriages, honor killings, and female genital mutillation. The incitement to extremism by visiting Imams in Britain is another prime example. People who want tolerance and understanding must recognize that it is a two way street.
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THE POPE, ESPECIALLY THIS PAR-TIK-CUE-LIAR POPE, IS $NOT REALLY A MAN OF FAITH OR SPRITUALITY. HE REPRESENTS A FASCIST NARROWMINDED PERSPECTIVE THAT MAKES LITTLE SENSE IN THE OVER CROWDED WORLD OF THE 21st CENTURY. HIS POLICIES AND BACKWARD VIEWS ARE NOTHING LESS THAT A RECIPE FOR UNMITIGATED CALAMITY PUSHING THE HUMAN SPECIES TOWARD EXTINCTION FOR THE $AKE OF THE BIBLICAL DOG-MESS: ARMAGEDDON.
NOT THAT I THINK ALL THAT WELL OF THE MUSLIMS EITHER. THEIR 7th CENTURY RELIGIOUS MINDSET IS BASED ON CONVERSION TO ISLAM... OR ELSE THEY WILL KILL YOU AND EWE. BEHOLD THE SAVAGERY AND BUTCHERY THAT MUSLIMS IMPOSE UPON THE WORLD... AND EVEN TO THEMSELVES.
RELIGIOUS FAITH POISONS THE MIND; IT SUPPRESSES LOGIC, COMMON SENSE AND THE SEARCH FOR KNOWLEDGE. HOW CAN THIS POPE, A MAN WITH A DICTATOR MINDSET, FURTHER PEACE, HARMONY AND UNDERSTANDING IN THE WORLD?
LET'S SEE EWE POST THIS CRITICISM.
I AM...
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Speaking of tolerance and peace-making in the context of religion is ridiculous. Both Catholicism and Islam (and yes, other religions as well) consider themselves the One True Faith.
If yours is the One True Faith then it is absolutelky your DUTY to fight the heretics without surcease. Killing non-believers is perfectly acceptable, frequently desirable, and even commendable.
So-called "fundamentalist" Islam and "conservative" Catholocism (perfectly represented by the current Pope) are not aberrations -- they are the logical result of actually believing in and acting on the tenets of your faith.
Currently, there are no murderous Catholic armies plundering the middle east but there's also no theological reason there couldn't be again as in the past.
Islam also has its own history of plunder and murder There's apparently an unlimited supply of the faithful willing to blow themselves up -- and anyone else unfortunate enough to be in the neighbourhood -- to get their express tickets to paradise.
The history of the human race is extremely depressing and by far the greatest amount of suffering and death has come about in the name of one religion or another -- all of them promising only misery in this world in exchange for happiness in the mythical next one.
It's a sad commentary that in the 21st century people have come no further than this.
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I am a Roman Catholic and greatly appresiate Pope Benedict's move to visit The Blue Mosque in Turkey and pray it creates a beter relationship between Christians and Muslims. I'll also be pleased if the pope can give word on the tension between the Arabs and Southerners in Sudan
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THE POPE SHOULD VISIT NATIONS AND PEOPLE OF HIS FAITH. HE HAS ENOUGH TO DO CLEANING UP HIS OWN HOUSE. TO IMPOSE ON TURKEY WAS ARROGANT AND OFFENSIVE.
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I've just been staying at home waiting for something to happen, but I don't care. Basically nothing seems worth thinking about. I can't be bothered with anything recently.
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Not much on my mind these days, but what can I say? It's not important. I just don't have much to say lately. I've just been letting everything pass me by recently, but eh.
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