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footslogger
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Ray Sinclair
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Italy
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Army
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A4165823
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08 June 2005

Thinking back to my last entry about Rome bringing back memories, I have another one!

After we had broken through Cassino and were on our way to Rome we went through a small town called Alatri, the Germans had withdrawn so all the townspeople were out to greet us with shouts of "Viva Churchill"
Viva Roosevelt" etc.,

Our carriers pulled into the main piazza where there were crowds of people milling around us so we had to stop.
In the centre of this crowd a man stood out from all the others because he was very tall and had a red beard and hair.
He came over to our carrier to speak to us and I expected him to speak either in Italian or broken English but instead he said in the broadest Scottish Glaswegian accent "Och laddies am I glad to see you!" and gave us a bottle of the local vino, then said he had been delegated to tell us about all the local Fascists the townspeople wanted rounded up, especially the mayor.

We were quite astonished at hearing him speak as it was so unexpected. I asked him how did he manage when the Tedeschi were in the the town, he then rattled off something in Gaelic which he also knew a little of,he told me he said this to the Germans when he met any, it wasn't complentary to them but as they did not know what he was saying he always told them it was the equivalent to their "Gutten Tag" which satisfied their curiosity.

The Germans he said were not quite sure what to make of him as he didn't sound English, so he was left alone, apparently he taught his children to speak English but of course they spoke it he said with a definite Scottish burr
As he hadn't had any news,he wanted know how Glasgow was, had it been bombed, we told him as much we were able to, which wasn't a lot, but he seemed happy with the information we were able to give out.

Getting back to his request I told him that we were not authorised to arrest any one but that the Allied Military Government (AMGOT) would soon be arriving and they would take over so he should make his report to them.He was disappointed at this because he felt sure by the time they arrived the Fascisti would be gone.

I asked what was he doing in Alatri and learned that his parents went to Glasgow when he was a little boy, they decided to return to Italy but he remained in Scotland with some cousins, and was in Italy visiting his parents when Mussolini declared war and he couldn't return to Glasgow, so he had to stay and eventually married a local girl
Now we were there he wanted know how he could return to Scotland and what could we do about it to help him. I said that when AMGOT arrived he should have a word with them, though I personally doubted if they could have helped in any way.
One wag said he should put on his kilt and join up with the Argyles as nobody would notice him with his accent.

Then orders came through for us to move on and we were on our way again towards Frosinone. I wonder if he did ever return to his "Auld Reekie"

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Message 1 - Recollections

Posted on: 08 June 2005 by Trooper Tom Canning - WW2 Site Helper

Come on now footslogger - the man was from Glasgow - Edinburgh is "Auld Reekie" - just as well the Argyll's were trailing you out of Alitri or they might have had something to say to an ignorant saccenach !
We might have met this same chap near Frosinone - this civilian standing there with his hands up stopping a forty ton Churchill Tank but by then he had shaved his beard off and wanted food for his six children... come to think of it ... he was a first war layover and had married a local girl.His children must have been big by then ! It was astonishing the people we met in the most unlikely places. They did say that all roads led to Rome !
regards
tomcan

Message 2 - Recollections

Posted on: 08 June 2005 by footslogger

Humble appologies Tom. though Scottish forbears I am still a Sassenach, however I was always under the impression it was Glasgow, and my friends there call it by that name, becasue of the heavy industry and ship yards that were there.

I can't call London "The smoke"anymore because it ain't!

regards
Ray

Message 3 - Recollections

Posted on: 08 June 2005 by Trooper Tom Canning - WW2 Site Helper

Ray - Edinburgh got first prize as the chimney pots were more numerous there than Glasgow - this goes back to Rabbie Burn's time and before we built any ships there. I have been in London many a time and am always astonished that salmon - the choosiest of fish - can survive in the Thames.We lost more than 1 million fish last year in the Fraser River as the water was too warm by three degrees ! Birmingham is similar with wide open green spaces where once upon a time factories were cheek to jowl - mind you - the unemployment went skywards in the process !
They do call it progress and I suppose this is what we went through to make it so ?
I guess you were still with 78th Div when you got to Vienna ? We had a ball at the Vienna Tattoo with the Argylls. Those were the happy days !
Cheers
tom

Message 1 - Recollections

Posted on: 08 June 2005 by Ron Goldstein

Hi Ray

Another good one !

I'ts a real treat to read fresh stories about the Italy of those days and I can well imagine your surprise when you first heard the bearded Scotsman.
I'm not one to nag (not much,anyway)
but I've yet to see some of your photos. I am pleased to report that I saw one photo being submitted, vetted and accepted all on the same day so get your images in now while there is time.

Regards

Ron

Message 2 - Recollections

Posted on: 08 June 2005 by footslogger

Hi Ron, Glad you like my latest, that is why I decide to write these vignettes, rather than on the conflict itself, as I mentioned to you earlier; better stories than I feel mine are have already been told.

Regarding the pictures I have tried several time to pull pictures of my Italian trip out of the Kodak file I have and transfer them to this site, but I cannot seem to do it, I feel a real dope at not being able to do this.

I will be doing some stories later on the div's. stay at Qassasin and I have some photo's (rather faded) that I will try to post with my story after scanning them.

Hope all the family are well

Best regards

Ray

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