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Bury St Edmunds during the War

by Ipswich Museum

Contributed by听
Ipswich Museum
People in story:听
Peter Jackson Phillips
Location of story:听
Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Background to story:听
Civilian
Article ID:听
A3103660
Contributed on:听
08 October 2004

When the war started nothing much changed at first. But then a big Army camp was set up on Newmarket Road, where the car sale showrooms now are. This meant that at most weekends there were lots of soldiers wandering the town. Most of them had never been away from home before. Then after a few weeks training a lot of new faces would appear. Next to the camp was a small grass airfield where they flew Lysanders from (it was said that this was where agents were taken to be dropped into Europe, not sure if that was true).

There were also lots of airfields set up around Bury. Some of these were American bases, one in particular being at Rougham. It is now maintained as a Museum.

Sometimes we would walk or cycle up the back road that leads to Thurston to watch the Flying Fortresses taking off or landing. I cannot remember the planes that were there earlier. And then there were the raids by German planes, and we would stand out in the street and watch them fly over. They would use the original sugar-beet factory as a marker. From listening to the radio we soon learnt that if the planes went to the right of the sugar beet factory, they were heading to the Midlands and Liverpool. If they went to the left they were going to London.

At weekends the Americans would come into town. All the children would run after them asking for sweets and gum. At this time my father was working at the Mildenhall base, and he became friendly with one of the men serving there. John was not into drinking and chasing girls, so at weekends he would come to our house and spend time with us. We have been friends ever since, we still write to each other. Also at this time there was a German prisoner-of-war camp just outside the town, and they were allowed into Bury at the weekends. I became friendly with one whose name was Helmut Mader. When he went home to Czechoslovakia after the war, we began writing to each other. I have kept ever letter and card he sent me. Sadly he has now passed away, but we are still in touch with Ruth his widow.

During the War it was compulsory for children of certain ages to do thirty half days farm work a year. This could be anything, the good thing was that we got paid for doing it. A farmer would telephone the School asking for so many children on a certain day and return them at the end of the day. Some of the things we did were planting potatoes. This involved walking down a furrow with a bucket of potatoes, dropping one in front of your foot at every step taken. We also did potato picking, which was gathering them up after the tractor had turned them up. We also did pea and fruit picking. At weekends we would go again, if the farm was close enough to get to, so that we could earn some more money.

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Message 1 - The barracks in Bury St.Edmunds

Posted on: 10 October 2004 by Ron Goldstein

Hi Peter
I see you say
"When the war started nothing much changed at first. But then a big Army camp was set up on Newmarket Road, where the car sale showrooms now are. This means that at most weekends there were lots of soldiers wandering the town. Most of them had never been away from home before. Then after a few weeks training a lot of new faces would appear."
If you look at my piece (A2176616)you will realise that I was one of those
'wandering soldiers'
Regards
Ron

Message 2 - The barracks in Bury St.Edmunds

Posted on: 21 December 2004 by Trooper Tom Canning - WW2 Site Helper

Peter -
I too was one of those wandering soldiers - during my six weeks Primary Infantry training from Gibralter barracks with the Beds and Herts battalion, and Sergeant Peacock.

All that I can remember was always (?) visiting the Athenaeum Club for a char and wad .The rest was always too miserable with the constant rain and ankle deep mud in which we had to plough and crawl through and STILL keep our boots in shine order and our fatiques spotless !

I followed Ron Goldstein through that barracks late in '42... then transferred to an even colder and muddier Barnard Castle in Durham, for Tank Training !

I was glad to get to North Africa later - at least we saw the sun !!!
Good Luck !

Message 1 - Helmut Mader

Posted on: 21 October 2004 by Ipswich Museum

To add to the reference to Helmut Madder.

He was born in Czechoslovakia and when his country was invaded he was made to join the German Army. He was eventually taken prisoner and brought to England to the camp near Bury St Edmunds. After the war he eventually went home to Czechoslovakia, and we began writing to each other. Several years later he and his family moved to Griez in East Germany so that their son could go to Leipzig University, and that was there they settled. His son Wolfgang studied languages and went on to become an officer in the military working as an interpreter.

My wife and I, together with our youngest daughter, visited them in Greiz in 1974, staying for two weeks.

Peter Phillips.

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