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Evacuation to Scrooby

by funnyhappyvalley

Contributed by听
funnyhappyvalley
People in story:听
Valerie Frith
Location of story:听
Leeds and Scrooby
Background to story:听
Civilian
Article ID:听
A2663174
Contributed on:听
24 May 2004

I lived in Leeds with my parents and sister. We were with our Grandmother in Flamborough when war was imminent. Granny sent us back to Leeds because we were to be evacuated. How, what or where this decision was taken I don't know. I was 12 at the time so what went on inside a 12 year old mind was cetainly not the international situation.
We had been fitted with gas masks before the outbreak of war so we were ready for a gas attack, but certainly not frightened. It was all a big adventure. My sister was attending Allerton High School, but I was still at Chapeltown elementary school, so we were on different schedules. I seem to remember Mother waving me off on the tram outside the school, but I certainly don't remember any tearful good-bye. We were taken to Leeds City Station. This was familiar territory for me, as my Father worked for the LNER and we often went away by train, but for some of my school friends it was a new experience.
We were taken to Bawtry station goods yard and marshalled into a large warehouse (well that's what it seemed like) we were given a carrier bag with food in. I only remember a Kitkat and a tin of salmon, but there must have been other things as well.
The Kitiat was eaten long before we reached the village we were to go to. There were buses waiting outside the building to take children to various villages in the area. I was with about eight other children some of whom I knew from my school class. None of them were my particular friends at school. We went to the village hall and were selected by ladies seated at a big trestle table. I don't remember if I was amongst the first or last to be selected. I was taken with a girl I barely knew called Margaret. We walked down the village to a red brick house to an old lady called Mrs Johnson. I remember her as being very kind, but to my mind very strict. We were not allowed to do very much on Sunday only go to Church or for walks. Later on my Father sent my bike to me but I was not allowed to ride it on Sunday.
I had to sleep with Margaret in a double bed in the back room. We were both kind of home sick so we were a comfort to each other and in time got used to it. The lavatory was down at the bottom of the garden, it was not a flush lavatory,we never got used to that. We attended the church every Sunday and because we swelled the numer of young people in the village we were not in the choir, we were the choir. So twice on Sunday we sang our hearts out. My Father had sent some "segs" to put at the heels and toes of my shoes (segs are metal studs that preserved the life of the shoes by protecting the toes and heels) I remember these clanking over the stone floor of the church.
The village we were evacuated to was Scrooby in Nottinghamshire and as every "red blooded" American knows it is where the Pilgrim Fathers started from. The Manor Farm was where William Brewster lived and the church was the one he attended. I have loved the history of the Pigrim Fathers ever since. I almost feel that for a time history was a neighbour of mine. I have been back to the village on two occasions but my children have never seen Scrooby, which is a pity for apart from my history it is full of the history of a life and times so different from today.
We all went home in December 1939. The schools opened again and the war barely touched Leeds. I think we were bombed only a few times. Apart from friends who joined the forces, severe rationing and as a teen ager I suffered clothes rationing, the war really had very little effect on Leeds. The stories of bombing, damage and death didn't, thank goodness, come my way, but for me American history certainly did.

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Message 1 - Scrooby

Posted on: 13 August 2004 by Scrooby70

Hello Valerie, I was very interested to read about your evacuation to Scrooby. I have been living in Scrooby for 17 years. The "old lady" that you were billited with must have been the Mother in Law of a lady that was called "Granny Johnson" when we came to the village. She died some time ago. A friend who lives near us who has been here for a long time could not remember your "old lady". There maybe somebody in the village who remembers her. I am hoping to ask her. What house was it where you stayed? I was also an evacuee during the war. I was evacuated to a coal mining in Yorkshire. My piece is called An "old" boy's story, A2365571.

Message 2 - Scrooby

Posted on: 08 September 2004 by funnyhappyvalley

Dear Peter, The Mrs Johnson I was billeted with lived near the old mill. There was a river running under the mill, which went past the bottom of Mrs Johnson's garden. There were two semi detached red brick houses, hers was one and I think I remember that her son, who was a coal miner, lived in the other. This little river no longer runs under the mill or at the bottom of the gardens. Regards Valerie.

Message 3 - Scrooby

Posted on: 11 September 2004 by Scrooby70

Hello Valerie, thanks for replying to my message. I have left several messages on other sites - they were about the place were I lived during the war - Welling in Kent, but have had no replies as yet. I live in hope! Did you read my story? I wonder if you know the mining village where I was evacuated to: Allerton Bywater. It's near Castleford. I have very happy memories of that time. I think I know the house that you were billeted in. I think it can be only be the one called West End Villas. It certainly has what is now just a stream running at the bottom of the garden. Have you been back to visit Scrooby recently? If you havn't you will find a few changes have taken place, not all to the good!
Best regards, Peter.

Message 4 - Scrooby

Posted on: 11 September 2004 by funnyhappyvalley

Hi Peter, Yes I have read your piece, but do not know the village you refer to. Yes I have been back to Scrooby on two occations one about 1970 and the last time about 5 years ago. I was suprised to find that houses had been built on the road towards the old railway station. I remember running down that road to stand on the gate and watch the trains go by. I was friendly with the boy who lived at Manor Farm, his name was Brian Durdy, he had a sister Margaret. I was disappointed to see that the Sarcen Head Pub was now called The Pilgrim Fathers, a ploy to catch the US dollar I supose, The old pub called the Kings Head or Arms is a house.
I too get very few replies from posed messages I work on the pricipal that not all that many people of my age are computer literate, I am always hoping their grandchildren or children will regocnize something and reply for them. Best of Luck. Valerie.

Message 5 - Scrooby

Posted on: 12 September 2004 by Scrooby70

Good morning Valerie, I wonder if the Margaret you knew became the Mrs Middleton, that has only recently left the village to live near her daughter. How old would she have been when you knew her?
The pub you refer to. I think you may have the name wrong. The one you may mean was called "The George and Dragon". It was (is) on the south end of the village where Low Road starts. I understand that there was another pub in the village (how did they all make a living?) called the "Black Bull" now also a house. All for now, Peter.

Message 6 - Scrooby

Posted on: 12 September 2004 by Scrooby70

Valerie, I have just been corrected by my wife about the Margaret I asked about, she did not come from Scrooby, she married a Bert Middleton who did. He lived until his death at Holmefield Farm. Peter.

Message 7 - Scrooby

Posted on: 12 September 2004 by funnyhappyvalley

Hello Peter, Now rather vaguely, I think, I remember it as the George and Dragon, but hey what does a twelve year old know about pubs! I remember the school just along the road from the junction with the A1 and the G&D. The village hall just oposite the Post Office. The church which we attended every Sunday, twice if my memory is correct, we were the choir!, and the girl I was billeted with was a Jew! Mostly I remember the fun we all had and I remember Brian, I think they left the Manor Farm about 1940 and went to a farm near Doncaster. Where in the village do you live? Don't worry I will not be dropping in on you, I live in Canada. Is there anyone in the village who remembers the evacuees from Leeds? Valerie.

Message 8 - Scrooby

Posted on: 13 September 2004 by Scrooby70

Hello again Valerie. Well that was a surprise when you told me you were now living in Canada. When did you emigrate to there? As you can imagine there are not many people left who might remember the evacuees, but there are (so my wife tells me) two sisters who are now in their eighties that we will ask when next we speak to them. I do not know when that will be.
As I told you in my first message My wife and I moved to Scrooby 17 years ago from Cranham, Essex which is part of Greater London. I had been made redundent from my job as a Compositor on The Times newspaper and having a quite large mortgage we sold the place in Cranham and bought our house here outright because property was much cheaper. If you know the pub The Pilgrim Fathers, we live in the house right next door, Croft House.
Did you have a chance to see inside our present village hall? It is a bit different to the one that you knew as a 12 year old. I believe, from what I have been told, it was just a wooden hut. Well that's enough from me for now. Kind regards, Peter.

Message 9 - Scrooby

Posted on: 14 September 2004 by funnyhappyvalley

Hi Peter, Yes I know the Pilgrim Fathers, it was called the Saracens Head when I was in the village. I don't remember a house next door. The last time I came to the village with my Canadian husband, my sister and brother in law, we had a drink in the pub. How I got to Canada in 1978 is a whole new story in itself.
regards - Valerie.

Message 10 - Scrooby

Posted on: 14 September 2004 by funnyhappyvalley

Hi again, Sorry I forgot the two ladies in their 80's almost my generation, what are their names? Valerie.

Message 11 - Scrooby

Posted on: 15 September 2004 by Scrooby70

Good Evening Valerie, but I guess it's more like morning with you.
The two sisters Christian names are Phyillis and Barbara. Niether live in the village now. I do not know what their maiden names were. My wife is going ask someone who may know.
The old school house you mentioned is of course now a private house, owned by an eccentric elderly woman, who lives alone except for her dogs.
All for now, Peter

Message 12 - Scrooby

Posted on: 17 September 2004 by Scrooby70

Hi! This is just an update on my last message. The two sisters names before they married was, Ford. The elder, Phyllis is now 87, so she would not have been at school when you were evacuated here, in fact I was told today by our neighbour, that she was married in 1940. Barbara is 77, so I asume that she was about the same age as yourself in 1939. By the way, Barbara still lives with her husband, in the village, in quite an old cottage, near where you were billeted. Phyllis lives on her own in Bawtry, just 2 miles away in a warden assisted apartment. Our neighbour also said that they both remember the evacuees. All the best, Peter.

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