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Lord Haw Haw and the Blackshirtsicon for Recommended story

by Angela & Dianna

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Angela & Dianna
Article ID:听
A1126478
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29 July 2003

This story was written by Angela's mother, Dobbie Dobinson:

It was 1936. I was just 16 and looking for a bit of excitement, so I was quite interested when I was invited to a Blackshirt meeting. I was told it could get a bit unruly, but the boys were really dishy.

The meeting was in south east London and was bursting at the seams with young people, male, female, black, white - they were all there. I couldn't believe that politics were uppermost in their minds, and I'm sure it wasn't in mine.

I was completely bowled over by the appearance of the members - girls and boys alike. The immaculate black silk shirt and tie. The slim trousers tucked into long black shiny boots. Topping it all was the wide leather belt with the large shiny buckle with the Blackshirt emblem. I learned later that it wasn't just decorative, but had a slightly more sinister use. Under the buckle were several sharp spikes, which could be released when the belt was removed and became rigidly upright. It formed an extremely effective weapon when whirled around among would-be attackers.

I decided to become a member, with all arrangements for my uniform to be delivered ASAP. My parents, needless to say, were very disapproving, and that's putting it mildly, but they had always encouraged us to learn by our own mistakes - and they both reckoned this was a big one!

So far, I had only attended local meetings, but once I had my uniform I was keen to go further afield and hear the better speakers. Sir Oswald Mosley, our leader, was due to speak in the East End of London, always reckoned to be a very lively venue. The great man arrived to address what was a really huge audience. There were Brownshirts, Greenshirts, Communists and a very high proportion of the Jewish community.

To me he looked rather like a doll that had been very carefully dressed. Nothing was out of place. His hair was perfect for the then popular Brylcreem and his little moustache looked as though it had been crayoned on his upper lip. His boots shone like glass and when he gave the salute and clicked his heels I expected them to crack!

He began his speech, but it didn't last long. There was a lot of catcalling and he seemed to have difficulty in holding the interest of the crowd or controlling it. But his deputy arrived to save the day, introduced as William Joyce.

I recognised him at once, although it was quite some time since I'd seen him. His sister Joan had been in my class at Dulwich Hamlet School and I eventually met all his family and it was a very lovely one. Joan had a twin called James, then came Quentin, then Frank and last came William. They were all very happy and confident people and I much enjoyed their company.

As soon as William started speaking the atmosphere changed completely, and I was to learn from future meetings that he had the ability to manipulate a crowd like no-one I had ever heard before.

From then on I never missed one of his meetings, but of course they could be pretty rowdy and this was when I saw the belts put to good use. The opposition was not to be outdone, however, and whirled long pieces of thick string with a raw potato attached to the end with several razor blades stuck in at different angles. Both weapons were not to be argued with for long, but if you were unwise enough to stand your ground an ambulance was quickly required.

It was at one such meeting when things became really out of hand and the police, who always attended our meetings, moved in in force. They had evidently decided that enough was enough and rounded up a number of youngsters, including me. We were bundled into a large police van, the door of which was covered with a metal frame. It felt like being in a cage and the atmosphere became very subdued.

The younger ones, including me, were made to give the usual details and were asked where our parents could be contacted. They were told to come and pick us up. Most parents arrived in a very short time and it was made clear there would be a whole lot of trouble when they reached home. My father decided otherwise - he obviously felt it might give me food for thought if he left me until the next morning.

Actually, although I didn't get any sleep, I learned a great deal about a policeman's lot during the small hours and it was not a happy one. They dealt with drunks, street people and some very abusive people, and my vocabulary increased considerably! A very nice sergeant gave me cups of strong tea with lots of sugar and two arrowroot biscuits. I think he knew I wasn't a real criminal, just a rather stupid brainwashed youngster, and with hindsight I have to agree with him.

I left the Blackshirts when I met the boy who was eventually to become my husband. By then it was 1938 and preparations were going on for war, like sandbags, shelters and gas masks. My boyfriend, who had joined the Territorials, was called up and was whisked off to the Cornwall coast on a London bus, and there given a rifle but no ammunition!

War finally came and sitting alone one evening I turned on my little battery radio and was astounded to hear a voice I knew only too well saying 'Germany calling! Germany calling!' The voice still held an audience even though the messages raised the blood pressure of any red-blooded Englishman. These messages continued every evening and eventually William Joyce came to be known as Lord Haw Haw. He had left this country and joined forces in Germany with our enemies and therefore became a traitor. The war ended and William was brought home, to be tried and sentenced to death by hanging.

I clearly remember the morning the sentence was carried out. I got up early and left the family sleeping; I sat quietly by the window until the clock struck the hour and I knew it was all over and William was no more. But he had stuck to his beliefs till the end and I think, in his case at least, he really believed in the Blackshirt cause, misguided as it was. But as he was often heard to say: 'You can't win 'em all.'

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Message 1 - Lord Haw Haw

Posted on: 02 October 2003 by Researcher 249201

William Joyce is one of those morbidly fascinating characters that pop up in history from time to time. A brilliant propagandist. It is always fascinating to read of first hand accounts of the infamous blackshirts.

Message 2 - Lord Haw Haw

Posted on: 09 October 2003 by Researcher 250635

I am researching a project into William Joyce (Lord Haw Haw) and other propaganda broadcasters of WW2 including Pearl Vardon, Norman Baillie-Stewart, Wolf Mitler, Axis Sally, Tokyo Rose and many others.

I am particularly interested in William Joyce and wonder if he still has any relatives alive? Also I would like to hear from people who heard his wartime broadcasts and/or from people who knew him or saw him prior to WW2.

Many thanks,
Don Hale

Message 3 - Lord Haw Haw

Posted on: 07 November 2003 by fred maynard

my mum used to tell us about haw haw and said he was hated for what he broadcast starting his broadcast with@ germany calling @ I think he got what he deserved at the end of the war, I was told when I was younger that a butchers shop in hackney east london called Joyce was owned by lord haw haws brother I can`t confirm this the shop has now gone but it was at the end of balls pond road at the junction with kingsland high road hope this helps

Message 4 - Lord Haw Haw

Posted on: 07 November 2003 by munich_connection

There has just recently been a book published on William Joyce entitled "Germany Calling - a personal biography of William Joyce 'Lord Haw Haw'" (New Island) by Mary Kenny.
The book contains an interview with his daughter Heather.
Some details on the book are available on the Galway Advertiser newspaper website: About links

The book is available through your favourite internet bookshops!
Hope this is of some help
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Message 5 - Lord Haw Haw

Posted on: 13 September 2004 by elviraberyl

13-9-04
Dear Don,
I have just read your question regarding William Joyce. I can't remember him being a frightening character, rather one of amusement. I was a young teenager during those years and lived on top of a hill, called Townhill above Swansea, South Wales. I recall clearly Lord Haw Haw saying, "Ga-rmany calling, Ga-rmany calling." in his distinctive voice. I can think of two items when he mentioned Swansea, one, was 'Bandy Lizzie and Stuttering George, Queen Elizabeth and King George 6th, walking up Neath Road in Landore, outskirt of Swansea. And the German pilots picking the flowers from the top of our Anderson shelters, in the gardens on top of Townhill. Many shelters did have flowers growing there. The only thing that frightened me was how did the man know such details. Perhaps I was too young to take it all seriously.
I hope you will be interested in my recollections.
Best wishes
elviraberyl

Message 6 - Lord Haw Haw

Posted on: 20 July 2005 by SDA

Thanks for the web page. I have been looking into my family tree and have a William Joyce a General Dealer from the East End. He maried a Ellen Jane Hill born 1871 died 1919 and they had a daughter Ethel Kate Joyce. Ellen died when Ethel was young and her half sister brought her up. Ethel never wanted her side or her husband Cyril Ernest Andre side of the Family tree traced?. She said we would not like what we would find?.

An old story was that some one in the family was hung or geletined?.

If you find any conection to William Lord Haw Haw's Family tree please let me know.

Message 1 - Alfred William Douglas

Posted on: 20 July 2005 by SDA

I read your article and according to my mother in law her father Alfred William Douglas born 1851 died 1951 was Oswald Mosley's right hand man ?. Have you ever heard this name before?.

Also in my family Tree is Ethel Kate Joyce her father was William Joyce a General Dealer in the East End. I can not find William Joyce Birth Death or marriage to Ellen Jane Hill born 1871 she died 1919. It would be interesting to find out more about William Joyce as I was asked by Ethel not to trace her family tree side or her husband Cyril Ernest Andre his father Henry Oliver Andre. (Major John Andre famous spy?. No family connections at all probally?). Ethel said I would not like what I would find if I did?. Some old passed down family story was of someone being executed hung or geletined?. Would like to find out who?.

Any help appreciated

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