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No beer for you, You're a gunner!

by Doug Haigh

Contributed by听
Doug Haigh
People in story:听
John Haigh
Location of story:听
Tunbridge Wells, Kent
Background to story:听
Army
Article ID:听
A2102086
Contributed on:听
02 December 2003

During the war my father was an anti-aircraft gunner in the Royal Artillery stationed in various parts of Britain. He often talked about his wartime experiences over a pint with his mates in the pub, many of whom had also been servicemen, and I liked nothing better than to listen in.
He always maintained that his basic training had a remarkable effect in instilling a great sense of confidence in him that civilian life had not.''When I went away I was afraid of everything; when I came back I was afraid of nothing.'' he said. He never served abroad and always resisted volunteering for an overseas posting because his best mate, a cockney, had done so and been killed within a few days of going overseas. ''Orders are orders'' he would say, ''but never volunteer for anything!''Before his mate was killed he visited his home in East London and was surprised by the poverty and deprivation that he found.Coming from a small Pennine hill village to the west of Huddersfield, his own family circumstances were far from affluent, but he maintained that they lived better during the war than many and benefitted especially from a constant supply of fresh vegetables grown in a small family allotment.
In 1944 my father found himself manning an ack-ack battery on the outskirts of Tunbridge Wells in Kent at the height of the V1 flying bomb raids on London.For weeks they blazed away at V1's passing overhead on their way to the capital and whilst the noise was considerable, they hardly succeeded in hitting anything. Then a new form of American ammunition was delivered and suddenly they began to bring down some of the V1's over the town.Considerable damage ensued when they fell relatively untouched with their warheads intact. When it became known what was the cause of this new devastation, my father's unit became so unpopular that they were refused service in their local pubs in the town!
Nevertheless I am very proud of my father's wartime service and I always secretly admired him greatly for choosing to fight rather than opt for an exempted occupation as he told me some had. As a result of his service and that of many thousands of others, I now have the freedom and affluence to be able to travel frequently overseas and when I do I always carry with me one of his wartime ''dog-tags.'' They were lucky for him and I hope they'll continue to be lucky for me!

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Message 1 - AA gunners and V1

Posted on: 03 December 2003 by paul gill - WW2 Site Helper

Doug, thanks for that. Its told me that the AA gunners' successes were not particularly welcomed in Kent and that East London was more deprived than most.

My father Reg Gill whose story I've partly written, is also a Yorkshireman and although not keen to volunteer was sent to the hotspots of Dunkirk and Malta!

Reg himself experienced real hunger as a child of nine when his father died. No welfare state then! Malta of course was desperate for food and people scavenged the shoreline for things to eat. The gunners in Malta had a very hard time as aircraft attacked them routinely on their way home. Fortunately the V1's weren't quite as anti social!

I believe the ammunition you refer tohad a proximity fuse which exploded at the nearest point to the target. A near miss could therefore destroy it in mid air or ..cause it to crash.

If you have any more stories I'd like to see them.

Thanks again

paul

Message 2 - AA gunners and V1

Posted on: 03 December 2003 by Doug Haigh

Paul,

Many thanks for your message and thanks for the additional material. I agree wholeheartedly with your comments regarding the gunners overseas especially in places such as Malta. I am now trying to find out as much as I can about my father's wartime service and am trying to find some record of his postings. Unfortunately he died some years ago before the internet became so universal and he would have been amazed to think that his story featured on it. Before he died we made a journey back to Kent and tried to find sites that he remembered. In the village of Lamberhurst where he spent some time we found the pub that he used, still with its small annex where dances were held, but we couldn't find the site of his ack-ack battery.

Best wishes and good luck with your story,

Doug Haigh

Message 3 - AA gunners and V1

Posted on: 03 December 2003 by paul gill - WW2 Site Helper

It's very well worth posting a question to the army research desk and it's much better than odds on you'll find more details particularly as you know the name of the village. I did a full search to see if I could pick up a reference directly but I couldn't.
You may even find someone whose father was in the same regiment.
Who knows, by now the villagers may just about have forgiven him his success!

If that fails there is a village website.
About links

Try posting a question on that.

I managed to trace the Grandson of a famous patient of my father, Reg Gill's via an Internet search. Reg responded by asking me to find a descendant of the person who cooked a curried vulture when they were near to starvation on Malta.
A1310536

Now I really am stumped on that one!

Good luck and let me know what happens.

paul

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