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Cousins meet at Minturno

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jayjaygee
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John Gudgeon, Eric Robinson.
Location of story:听
Minturno, Italy.
Background to story:听
Army
Article ID:听
A6633696
Contributed on:听
02 November 2005

Photograph of cousins Eric and Jack taken on the 12th October 1945 at Northampton during their first leave together after the war in Europe ended.

Cousins meet at Minturno.

My cousin Eric and I lived almost next door in a village in Northamptonshire. In July 1939 Eric was 20 and at the outbreak of the war on September 3rd he was called up to enlist in the Army and on the 11th September he joined the 2nd Battalion Northamptonshire Regiment. During the first six weeks he did his basic training at Northampton and was able to come home for a days leave at the weekends.
Eric looked very smart in his uniform. After these first six weeks he was moved to unknown destinations in England and was unable to get sufficient leave for visits home.
I was only 16 years and 7months at the outbreak of war and not called up until 6th May 1942 when I enlisted in the Royal Armoured Corps, 55th Armoured Training Regiment, at Farnborough in Hampshire.
At this camp I did my six weeks basic Army training. After completing the basic training I trained for a further six weeks on Valentine and Covenanter Tanks for the duty of a Tank driver and gunner. After the 3 months training I passed out as a qualified driver and gunner and was then posted to the North Staffordshire Regiment stationed near Colchester.
This Regiment was in the process of being re-equipped but due to the shortage of tanks spent most of the time on basic army marching and drill routine. I was only with this Regiment for a month before being posted to the RAC Training Camp at Bovington.
I spent the next few weeks including Christmas 1942 at Bovington on further driving experience then on 10th January 1943 posted overseas to North Africa.
I left the UK from Greenock on board the SS Circassia and after a week at sea docked at Algiers in North Africa. It was then a march round the bay of Algiers to a staging camp a distance of about 20 miles. Transport was supplied for kitbags and for anyone who failed to keep up. It was marching to attention until leaving Algiers then break step and walk at ones own pace walking for 50 minutes and rest for ten. On arrival at the camp allocated two to a tent and given a tin of meat and vegetable soup between two and a ladle of tea.
After about 10 days at this camp having been on more drill and route marches I joined a company of reinforcements being sent to the front line by train in cattle trucks. These trucks were for the transport of 40 men or 8 horses. After a three day journey the train arrives at a railway station. At this station I was counted into a group with 9 other men and taken to the camp of the 16/5 Lancers. Having been registered in the Regiment I was allocated to the position of co-driver in a Sherman Tank in B Squadron where I remained for the North African campaign.
On 4th January 1944 the Regiment moved to Italy I had now been transferred to the Squadron Leaders Sherman Tank, HQ Troop, B Squadron. On arriving in Italy the Squadron was dispatched to the line at Minturno giving forward artillery support to the Infantry.
About 2230hrs on Friday 4th February the four of us in the crew (not the Squadron. Leader) were resting on our beds (a single blanket on a ground sheet by the side of the tank under a makeshift tent of the tank Tarpaulin sheet) when I heard voices outside and then someone put his head under the sheet and said is Jack Gudgeon in here.
I looked up and what a surprise I said, "Eric, what are you doing here and at this time of night"? Come in and sit down, the crew moving up to allow Eric to sit on the bed (ground).
The conversation was then something like this:
Me, "How did you know I was here"?
Eric, "The Northampton's are in the next area and one of the echelon drivers who had been up with the supplies said the Northampton's are sitting alongside a Squadron of tanks and I asked if he knew which Regiment when he said the 16/5 Lancers I then asked the echelon Sgt. if I could ride with them to see if I could find my cousin who is in the 16/5".
Me, "It must have been a bit difficult finding the right tank".
Eric, "Yes, I was getting a bit disappointed having asked at five other tanks each saying not this end he is further along when someone said yes he is in the Squadron Leaders tank over there".
We then talked about home and both said they will be surprised to hear at home about our meeting like this. There was very little time left before Eric had to return to the echelon for his journey back to base.
Travelling up to the line at this place was very difficult because convoys could only cross the Garagliano at night at prearranged times over the pontoon bridge, which was under enemy observation and constant shelling.
We arranged to meet again the following night, Saturday 5th, if Eric was not on duty this we did having a little more time now he knew where to find me. On the second night Eric said he was on duty on Sunday but would come again on Monday we were hoping to make similar arrangements that night if Eric could get time off. I said the Squadron had been detailed to return to base camp at Sparanise on Thursday or Friday night so come tomorrow or Wednesday.
Eric said, "Are you camped at Sparanise"? Sparanise is only about fifteen miles from my camp at Carno, if I am not on duty I will try to come to Sparanise.
We received orders to move on Friday 11th. We left Minturno at 1715hrs crossing the pontoon bridge over the River Garigliano at 1800hrs and arrived at Sparanise at 2200hrs.
Sunday 13th Eric came to Sparanise in the afternoon for about two hours but said "I think the Brigade HQ. are moving and I am the Brigadiers staff car driver so I don't know when we will meet again". Eric moved into Anzio a few days later and on leaving Anzio went with the Brigadier to the middle east, I moved into the line after a few days rest to continue in the Italian campaigns at Cassino and on to the river Po where we had to halt because all the bridges over the river had been demolished.
The Infantry crossed the river and not long after the war in Europe ended.
The next time Eric and I met was back home in the village on the 12th October 1945 on our first leave together.
Photograph of us taken at Northampton on 12 October 1945 on our first leave together after the war in Europe ended.

It is interesting to note, before the outbreak of war in September 1949 that Eric and I would see each other two or three times a day but from the war starting to October 1945 we only met four times for only a short time in total. We however both made it back home.

The crew mentioned above when Eric first came were as follows: -
Sergeant F Watson tank gunner, Corporal S Rogers Wireless Operator both returned home without incident. Lance Corporal L Mabey tank driver was wounded by shrapnel when we were on a rest day and evacuated to hospital.

Major R. Gill, Squadron Leader, fatally wounded by shrapnel at Cassino. I was the Co-Driver (Trooper J Gudgeon).

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Message 1 - Cousins at Minturno

Posted on: 02 November 2005 by Trooper Tom Canning - WW2 Site Helper

John -
I joined the 16/5th at Knittelfeld when the war finished having being wounded at Coriano Ridge in the Gothic Line and my regiment - 145th RAC in the 21st tank bde being broken up for spares.
There weren't many of the old gang left as they were all heading for the U.K. having time served from the India days.
A few were left SSM Ambrose - who broke a leg ski-ing and went back to the U.K. returning in time to move to Libya in '47 - Sgt Rocky Knight - Sgt Cook - Capt. Peter Bull who appeared to be the only Officer we had in B sqdn - Cpl Reilly - Dixon - Blackwood -Alison - Hughes - Kelly - Chapneys - Mc Cormack - there were a few who had been with the regt since the U.K. and I'm sure you would remember them .
Cheers
Tpr tom canning

Message 2 - Cousins at Minturno

Posted on: 13 November 2005 by jayjaygee

Tom.
Thank you for your message. I have been trying to place you at Knittlefield, I left for the UK from there in Nov. 1946. At Knittlefield I was with the Fitter troop, my job when on the move was driving the Austin fitters store truck. Do you remember Donnelly, E Seage?.
I well remember SSM Bert Ambrose breaking his leg skiing I saw him on the stretcher on his way to hospital, first class SSM well liked by all. (At Phillipville, N.A. it was sport every afternoon for the whole Squadron, football, running, jumping etc. SSM Ambrose noticed that some men were missing from these sports and decided to make a check of the tents when he came across one man hoping for a quiet afternoon. The SSM said 鈥渁nd what do you think you will be doing this afternoon?鈥 the reply was 鈥減laying football Sir鈥 the SSM said 鈥 yes, you will and in double quick time鈥 no one tried for an easy afternoon after that). The SSM did it with a sly smile.
I too remember Capt. Peter Bull, very keen on horse riding, would often appear on morning role call at 0600hrs on horseback. Acting SSM (I think) was Rocky Knight, Rocky, reporting, 鈥淪quadron all present and correct Sir鈥, Peter Bull saying, 鈥淐arry on Sgt. Major鈥 then riding off. A well liked and respected Officer.
Sgt. Cook, Reilly, Dixon, Alison, Hughes, Chapneys, Jock McCormack and Kelly, I remember them, Kelly is in the Squadron photograph taken in Italy, April 1945, but I can鈥檛 remember where it was taken.
I enjoyed the Skiing at Flatnitz, but the downhill section rather steep I fell off a few times near the top, the SSM almost made it to the bottom I understand before his mishap. The patrol exercise through the woods was good fun but very tiring. Frank Godsell in the Tech. Stores at Knittlefield he enjoyed skiing, doing very well on the downhill, even brought his skis home on de-mob. He now lives in New Zealand growing Kiwi fruit.
B Squadron held a re-union in London every year but each year the numbers diminished due to Lancers joining the Senior Squadron our last gathering was on Oct. 4th 2003 reduced to 7. Colonel H. Brooke, Sam Knowles, me, I am afraid to say the other four have since then passed on they were Reg. Robinson MM, Joe Smythe, a Chelsea Pensioner, he attended the Albert Hall Festival of Remembrance in Nov. 2003, looked very smart in his red coat. Ernie Chapman, Ernie was the Squadron 鈥済et anything contact, you want it I will get it鈥. Only last month we lost Aubrey Rawlinson.
I note you have mentioned in previous requests about SSM Bill Mourant, I think he was in charge of the Echelon and on the day he died the War Diary Records give the following details. (Broke laager at 0500hrs halted for Echelon to come up with water, rations, fuel, 鈥淎mmo鈥, oranges and mail about 9 am while we were here we were attacked by 3 Focke Woolfes each carrying a 1 thousand pound bomb, we were not really the target but were in the stray shots. The total casualties in the attack were 8 killed and 8 wounded, the Squadron having two casualties, SSM Mourant lost his life, hit in the head by AP. Tpr. Harrison being slightly wounded). I remember Bill, but only joining the Squadron in Feb.43 and most of that time we were in the line fighting or doing maintenance on rest days. The SSM had little chance of drilling his men on the parade ground. I think SSM Ambrose took over but preferred to be in a Tank he was the HQ Troop Spare Rear Link always in contact with HQ and ready to jump out to maintain good Squadron Discipline.
I hope this is interesting and does not put you to sleep.
I attended the Catterick reunion weekend in June and only met Colonel Henry Brooke no one mentioned North Africa or Italy sever did mention Libya.
Cheers for now.
Tpr john Gudgeon.

Message 3 - Cousins at Minturno

Posted on: 14 November 2005 by Trooper Tom Canning - WW2 Site Helper

JOHN -
- all those names ring bells - I remember a lot of them- the day bert Ambrose broke his leg and I understand a few "stretcher bearers" gave him arough time on the way down the mountain - I was on acourse in Milan so was not guilty. I was however acting storeman at villach when he returned - bright as a button - fortunately - the "stretchers bearers" had all gone back to blighty but i would not have been in their shoes. He was agood man !
Rocky Knight did everything - including sending me on courses no one else would touch ! We went up to Vienna for the Tattoo and he and Peter Bull were the Brigands - Peter was on a Lippzaner Stallion and the crowd went wild when they saw it as they had just been returned to Vienna from Czecholslovakia, under the noses of the Russinas by Gen George Patton - who knew a thing or two about horses wheras the Russians didn't except for dinner !
They were great times with th regiment and I noticed Reg Robinsons.MM death last year along with Brig Peter Bull ! Frank Alison still keeps in touch - he went home early fromKnittelfeld to join the Staffs police and finished up a Detective Chief Inspector - so he did well - lives in Kidsgrove Staffs.
Hughes and Kelly were both from Brum and I bumped into Hughes one day there - but he didn't want to know as I think he was a bit embarrassed - he looked a bit down on his luck.
I remember Godsall - glad he made it to NZ and is probably eating more Kiwi fruit than he can grow - Cheers John - good to hear fromyou !
Tom canning

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