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The National Trust has more than four million paid-up members, and 21 million people paid to visit a NT property in 2014.

The trust has now published its ten-year plan with a focus on buying more land and less property, as well as making its houses more relevant and less stuffy.

Its own figures show three-quarters of visitors are from the three highest socio-economic groups, compared with just over half of the overall population.

Director general Dame Helen Ghosh told 5 live she does worry about attracting a wider range of visitors, but said some of its sites have been able to achieve this.

This clip is originally from 5 live Daily on Tuesday 2 June, 2015.