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Update #24 Swan vs Roe

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Adam | 17:33 UK time, Tuesday, 1 March 2011


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This video is being passed round school. Swan is seriously mental. We need to do some digging on him. Like Roe said "perverse little power games"... Could that include murder?

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  • Comment number 1.

    finally!

  • Comment number 2.

    yh about time

  • Comment number 3.

    1. couldn't have put it better myself

  • Comment number 4.

    is it me or does mr. roe not have a reflection?...
    and what happened about the vampire bites on brady's neck, they were there for a reason i think

  • Comment number 5.

    oooo yeah!

  • Comment number 6.

    I had a teacher like that, he was complete nut job used to scream at teachers and students alike.

  • Comment number 7.

    so, Mr Roe has trouble controlling his class (tell me something i dont know, when i was at school he would have been walked all over).

    Mr. Swan is a bully - again tell me something we dont know. He enjoys having the upper hand, and likes to make everyone around him feel about 1inch tall. Typical bully behaviour. Show favour to those who agree with you and intimidate all those you feel are worthless.

  • Comment number 8.

    whoa mr swan!
    what got under his skin.
    the way he was talking to mr roe made it sound as if mr roe was a ghost

  • Comment number 9.

    Mr roe does have a reflection, if you look closely.

  • Comment number 10.

    he probably does but that would be interesting...

  • Comment number 11.

    I think Roe is gunna murder Swan!

  • Comment number 12.

    ahh update thank god

  • Comment number 13.

    12 yha bout time 2 i was dying without it

  • Comment number 14.

    YouTube link:

  • Comment number 15.

    4 - If Mr Roe didn't have a reflection he wouldn't have shown up on the video.

    How is Mr Roe supposed to get the upperhand in class when Mr Swan is shouting at him in front of the pupils? That's just gonna make things worse.

  • Comment number 16.

    4 neenawnom he is on the wall so he would not have a proper reflection on the glass he aint out far enough and brandy did not have bite they were frecles just look like bites

  • Comment number 17.

    It was typical. My connection started playing up and then I was having trouble getting back on the blog. I just knew there'd be an update. And yeah, it's about time.

  • Comment number 18.

    If any of the teachers were anything but human Adam and Co would know. I like the theory on the other tread that the teachers are in it together and the pressure is starting to get to them, hence the arguments. I dont think it was either of the teachers anyway its too obvious.

  • Comment number 19.

    Is it me or is he a bit overly proud of his success with the football team - Who if my memory serves are generally loud enough to be heard from a distance even in class rooms - one way or another Swan is going to get it,

  • Comment number 20.

    i know being-human-mad i got up to go to the toilet come back updates and 11 comment and i was like george moment i only got up for a wee

  • Comment number 21.

    "For God's sake, Roe, can you not control your class? Are you invisible? Can they not see you? Can they not see you standing at the front, trying to bloody control the lesson? Because from what I'm hearing, you can't! Now, I'm just down there, yeah, giving tactics to the award winning football team, bloody heroes of this school, and all I can hear in there is a bloody menagerie. Now get it sorted, do you hear me?"
    "Yes"
    "Yes? Good! Hey you, get back in class!"

  • Comment number 22.

    ohh who's got a temper wonder whats rocked his boat mr roe didnt look like he was acting (if you know what i mean )for the camera because he didnt know it was there and 7. i also think mr swan is a bully but he is just a bully and it is too obious to be him

  • Comment number 23.

    same but i was gone less than a minute and the update had been put and a comment. i mean i is so typical been waiting 2 days i'm gone for less than a min and there is a new update.
    *aaaaaarggggggh*
    :@

  • Comment number 24.

    Mr Swan's got a bit of a Sue Sylvester thing going by the looks of things. Thinking he can run the school because he's coaching 'the award winning football team' lol.

    I wouldn't like to be on the recieving end of one of his rants. Poor Mr Roe :(

    There are some teachers who are like that, erupt over the smallest little thing. There was a teacher in my school who was notorious for it, just the slightest little thing would set him off.

    But I think he's more for the verbal abuse and humiliation of people. If he'd caught Matt graffiting I think he would have shouted at him in front of the whole school rather than drown him.

  • Comment number 25.

    FINALLY! Took long enough and I was about to go mad if this didn't appear!

    I'm going to get drowned in all these comments trying to catch up on them all.

  • Comment number 26.

    Wow! Mr Swan has some anger issues! He certainly seems able to commit murder...

  • Comment number 27.

    Finally made an account to post a comment on these vids! Right, now to thinking...

    Mr. Swan really is being portrayed as the arrogant P.E. teacher here isn't he? Now, if this were an American school, he would be within his rights - a winning sports team can bring a lot of money to the place. In the UK, it just comes across as pure arrogance; almost a counter to the usual rhetoric of: "those who can't, teach and those who can't teach, teach P.E."

    Mr. Roe, on the other hand, is really passive-aggressive in the previous videos, muttering under his breath and just giving away confidential information to students. Mr. Swan is brash and arrogant, but Mr. Roe's anger make him more of a liability.

    Could it be possible that Matt's killer had help to move the body? That we're not looking for one person, but rather a pair? The killer and their accomplice? Has that been passed as a theory yet, or am I repeating old thoughts?

  • Comment number 28.

    25. drowned oh no dont go taking after matt

  • Comment number 29.

    who is sue sylvester

  • Comment number 30.

    Ahem. So points:

    1. He thinks anyone who cannot control a class as well as he can is beneath him. And treats them like it.
    2. He seems really fond of boasting about his 'award winning' football team. Nothing egotistical at all there.
    3. He is very fond of the word 'bloody'. Nothing suspicious about it, I just picked it up.
    4. He is very quick to change targets.

  • Comment number 31.

    29 - The cheerleading coach from Glee who seems to run the school because the Cheerios win everything. But she's more like a precision scalpal with her putdowns rather than a sledge hammer.

  • Comment number 32.

    28 - I knew someone would say it Lol

    I can't make out what he is saying since the sound on my laptop isn't too good and the sound quality is supposed to sound like it was done on a phone so can anyone provide a transcript please?

  • Comment number 33.

    31- thanks i don't watch glee really

  • Comment number 34.

    Well we know neither of them are vampires becuase they can be seen on caemra - meaning that if one of them committed Matts murder then we would be able to see them on the CCTV :)

  • Comment number 35.

    32 see 21 and thank koolkidpaige

  • Comment number 36.

    sue sylvester lol

  • Comment number 37.

    being-human-mad you do make me laugh lol ok random question time if roe 'v' swan who would win oh one more thing do you think roe is letting swan bully him because he has something on him *cough*murder*cough* humm

  • Comment number 38.

    34- good point

  • Comment number 39.

    32 - i did a transcript at comment 21

  • Comment number 40.

    if you were on about physical fight then defo mr swan but on brains i would say mr roe

    how do i make you laugh.
    because i am weird and all over the place

  • Comment number 41.

    37 - Yes i think its something worth thinking about!

  • Comment number 42.

    So it was a video and not a map don't know whether to be happy or not but soon, will Mr Swan meat Christa when she's not herself and have to be rescued by a reluctant Adam, or will he let her kill?

    Will they bring down this beast without depending on beastly means?

    So Mr Swan has your time come or are you going to escape?

  • Comment number 43.

    Out of the two I think Roe would be the most likely to snap and drown somebody. He is passive aggressive and seems to be bottling a lot of things up. That is not healthy and perhaps Matt was the hapless last straw that made him snap.

    Swan, I still think he would have humiliated Matt rather than drown him cause he'd get more satisfaction from it.

  • Comment number 44.

    I can't really get much from this but I don't think that Mr Roe just bottled it up and then let it go on Matt unless he did it and now he is just suffering the guilt (like the Owen was terrified after Annie had a word with him).

    Can you imagine how Adam and Crista would interigate Mr Swan? They couldn't do it like they did with the students so it'll be really awkward me thinks.

  • Comment number 45.

    i like the satisfaction point about the drowning matt thing

  • Comment number 46.

    Getting drowned here

  • Comment number 47.

    agreed gempire, roe is the one more likely to snap.

    That said, can he be the murderer? It seems that it was more premeditated than a snap decision. Someone followed Matt to the toilets, and we know matt couldnt have provoked him just before that as he was watching the girls change. I cant imagine Mr Roe being the sort to plan it like that, he would lose his bottle if it wasnt an BANG instant decision.

  • Comment number 48.

    hopefully you will live

  • Comment number 49.

    They seem to be spying on him in the 'next time' bit so maybe they catch him at a vulnrable moment, or they witness something that will either confirm their suspicions or negate them.

  • Comment number 50.

    My comment at 49 was directed to 44

  • Comment number 51.

    49 - In the gym where Christa is transforming in the trailer.

    It's a hope

  • Comment number 52.

    44 - Well, Christa might. Mr. Swan seems to have known her fairly well - for a teacher - and speaks sort of highly of her in the first episode. He seems almost let down at the end of episode 5 when he sees her coming out of the bathroom. I think we could assume that she might be able to find stuff out from him

  • Comment number 53.

    Well it's beginning to slow down now so I can kinda catch up and put some idea in.

    So 47 is definately right. This kind of thing has to be premeditated since if it was a snap decision then it would be the nearest person being punched rather than following someone then attacking them in your prefered fashion.

    But would Mr Swan go through all of that to kill a student that wasn't fit enough to do his what seems like cruel exercises?

  • Comment number 54.

    maybe because he might look at matt as a disgrace to the fit people (adam) at the school

  • Comment number 55.

    I still believe it was Roe who killed Matt and that he had to enlist Swan to help get rid of the body.

    Possibly Roe had something over Swann, ie Swann was having an affair with one of the students and this is why Swann hasn't reported Roe to the police. A bit of two sided blackmail. But seeing as Swann is a bully and Roe is so passive/aggressive Swann thinks he can shove him around.

    Swann might want to watch his back, Roe must have a temper on him, which probably manifested itself by drowning Matt.

  • Comment number 56.

    why does every one thi8nk that mr swan is dating a student? i don't get it

  • Comment number 57.

    i need to sneeze but anyway i felt like you guys needed to know lol i think mr roe killed matt tried to runn away when the door swung open mr swan was stood at the door(just about to come it)
    mr roe turned around to look at the body sticking out of the toilet mr swan speachless
    mr roe you need to help me please
    mr swan wh...what did you do
    mr roe i will tell you later just help me
    mr swan ok
    as mr swan and mr roe taking the body to the car in (...........)
    mr swan why did you do this
    mr roe i dont know but you cant tell anyone
    mr swan so you killed the fatboy for no reason i have a few reasons he sucks at sport even that 6 toe boy gets picked befor him
    mr roe that not a good reason
    mr swan WHAT YOU DID IT FOR NO REASON DONT YOU BACKCHAT ME
    mr roe i dont have to listen to you
    mr roe walks away from his car and locks it camra angle from behind swan looking at roe
    mr swan YOU DO IF YOU DONT WANT ANYONE TO KNOW
    roe turns around
    mr roe ok




    THE END
    if you have more i would love to hear (read) what you have to say

  • Comment number 58.

    47, bluecow, Hmmm... good point. I was actually thinking when I re-watched ep 5 today that it looked like the person was targetting Matt, and like you said Roe wouldn't do it pre-meditated.

    I still don't think it's Mr Swan either. What would he gain from drowning Matt? And I think he would have come up with a better plan if he wanted to kill him that much.

    I'm leaning more toward a student now. Someone who really had it in for Matt and saw him run into the toilets and set their plan in motion. I wonder if Matt always went into the toilets last thing on a friday? Was the 'out of order' toilet his fave mitching spot when he wasn't spying on the Christa?

    The way the killer opened the stall door it was really hard, they did mean to hurt Matt rather than check if anyone was in there and they got lucky he happened to be facing the toilet.

  • Comment number 59.

    yh that was ok but like halfway through i got losta nd had to start again

  • Comment number 60.

    57 - Hey that's pretty good but it still doesn't seem like the snap decision kind of thing. It seems to thought out to be something like that.

  • Comment number 61.

    nah being-human-mad i dont make you laugh because of that its just the way you are like me you have dream about being a werewolf you dont watch glee i cant remember the rest and the glee thing is just random ya no but than just mee RAMDOM

  • Comment number 62.

    Gempire just reminded me of a theory I had but forgot since it was period 1 in school. The person must of had something in for Matt or else he could have just beat him up instead. If this person had already planned or thought about "dealing" with him then seeing him run into the toilets after just being chased by a Crompton then he/she could have thought "Perfect I'll do it now" and well you get the rest.

  • Comment number 63.

    it was ment to me you dont make me no i make you lol

  • Comment number 64.

    61 - I like you

  • Comment number 65.

    i agree with weekoony-BH seems planned out i don't think i will last once this finishes.
    pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    make a spin off

  • Comment number 66.

    51 - I think we need the transformation this week.

    Oh, I hope Adam doesn't get Mr Swan to talk by threatening to push him in the gym with wolfChrista.

  • Comment number 67.

    Due to the fact that the CCTV tapes are missing, we can assume that they are either human/Were, or don't want to leave tapes showing doors opening/closing by themselves on tape and are clever enough to think to steal them.
    So, either human or Were.
    And/or clever.

    If they were Vamp, then they would probably know about Christa, and she probably would have been targeted.
    But, a Vamp WOULD have clean-up teams, that could tidy-up Matt's body.
    But Matt wasn't drained.
    A Clean Vamp?

    If they were Were, Adam would've noticed.

    If they were a ghost, A,C&M would probably have spotted them.

    So probably human, I think.

  • Comment number 68.

    as for why I think its possible (not definate just a random theory) for Mr. Swan having an affair with a student.

    1 - he has power, and he craves power
    2 - brandy is his star pupil, she is also the most desirable girl in the school
    3 - he is a bully, rather like brandys family.
    4 - brandy is missing a father figure, easier to go for what you know than what you dont.
    5 - brandy was sloping off to some horrible place. I think she was meeting someone. I think that someone could be Mr. Swan.
    6 - its just a gut feeling. He seems the type to me.



  • Comment number 69.

    61- i like yoiu to. seems we have a lot in common.
    *yeah*
    :)

  • Comment number 70.

    ok then weekoony_BH why you like me

  • Comment number 71.

    68 - that does seem reasonable and that would be why she was around by the boys toilets near the gym. Matt just assumed she was chasing him, but she was going to meet Mr Swan, saw whoever, probably the killer, and that's why she turned back.

    That would also explain why she didn't mention she was anywhere near the toilets because then she'd have to explain where she was going if she wasn't chacing Matt.

  • Comment number 72.

    i like blucows i dea about the brandy+mr swan thing i get it now

  • Comment number 73.

    68 - I would agree on that. He also seemed to be watching a female student pass by them in episode 1, and he does seem fond of Christa. More hints?

  • Comment number 74.

    66. i think it's more likely that they get stuck in that gymnastics horse box thing till late while spying on Mr Swan and Adam has to make a quick dash 2 get him and Mr Swan out b4 the big bad wolf arrives.

  • Comment number 75.

    ep- like your theory about staying late it made me laugh and then them having to leg it

  • Comment number 76.

    I think Mr swan didn't do it BUT something will happen relating to him that will lead us onto the killer. Just food for thought.
    Still think it's a group of people involved...

    On a random note, Mr swan is kind of like a PE teacher at my school...he also looks like him too...

  • Comment number 77.

    he remindes me of one of my pe teachers too. i also think that more than one person is envolved

  • Comment number 78.

    70 - I like you because we seem to be agreeing on the same terms.

    71 - When Brandy stopped and looked around it was in that classic "where did he go?" kind of thing so I reckon she was looking for him then ran back to get the rest of her stuff on.

  • Comment number 79.

    70- are you the same age as weekoony

  • Comment number 80.

    by the way i was just wondering iu'm not a perve.
    cross my heart hope to die.

  • Comment number 81.

    it's just i think i am the youngest here

  • Comment number 82.

    sorry actually don't answer that being stupid now

  • Comment number 83.

    4 there arent bites on brandy's neck the actress has two moles .

  • Comment number 84.

    74, EP - I like that idea. I was just thinking of the worst possible thing that they could do to get Mr Swan to talk and worrying for no reason.

    Well I'm out of ideas right now. I think I'll have to wait until tomorrow's update before I can come up with anything better than, 'I don't think it's Mr Swan or Mr Roe' right now :(

  • Comment number 85.

    you can see his reflection in the green shiny wall. also they didnt bother taking out adams

  • Comment number 86.

    I think they will question Mr Roe in ep 8 but something will reveal the real killer and the real threat they represent in the last few moments of an extended episode.

    thoughts?

  • Comment number 87.

    i think it is mr roe but now i'm a bit confused.:S

  • Comment number 88.

    @being-human-mad how old are you?

    In the "next time" bit the light coming through li=ooks like the are on one of the horse boxes when they are spying on Matt but I wonder why Matt is hitting the punch bag?

  • Comment number 89.

    got to go up early again 4 rest of week night

  • Comment number 90.

    being-human-mad how old are you i am 16 and i have no clue how old weekoony_BH yeah how old are you both of you lol not being a perv just it was brought up

  • Comment number 91.

    90 - I'm 14 (15 in 15 days lol) how old are you being-human-mad?

  • Comment number 92.

    yeh weekoony i just read your last comment on episode 5 lol your 15 in 15 days my brothers going to be 14 in 14 days how jokes is that

  • Comment number 93.

    92 - Yeah what are the chances of that hehe my niece is one on the 14th (mothers day last year) and my nephew was born on valentines day. Talk about strange days to have a birthday. My dad was married on his birthday and a few of my friends share a birthday with jesus haha.

    I think I am actually the youngest on here yay! (I think)

  • Comment number 94.

    I have a feeling I'm going to drown tomorrow when I come home from school with all the comments :/

  • Comment number 95.

    i dident think you were that young lol i dont drown in comment cuz i cheak in school lool cuz bbc ent blocked

  • Comment number 96.

    one more thing are you a boy or a girl lol just wondering sorry if im wrong i think your a boy (weekoony) and i think being-human-man is a girl sorry if im wrong and i offend you if im right i am so awsome

  • Comment number 97.

    All I know is I'm probably the oldest.

  • Comment number 98.

    24 - Ive always thought that! That he's like Sue from glee, what with the coach thing, tracksuits, and generally thinking he owns the place. Hell yeah, we've all got a Mr. Swan/Sue at our school :D

    and on Brandy's neck; they weren't bite marks they were Freckles. The reason in zoomed in on her neck was because Adam could smell the blood and was getting a tad bit.. aroused(?) by it, haha.
    xxx

  • Comment number 99.

    No idea why i spelt freckles with a capital 'F' on my previous comment o.o
    xxx

  • Comment number 100.

    96 - I'm a girl but I'm quite boyish the wee part it a typical Scottish thing and my surname is Koon so that's how I go the name. I don't cheak in school because I don't have an internet connection on my phone and we aren't allowed in the library without a good reason (apparently checking for Being Human and Becoming Human updates isn't a good reason yet playing games is)

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