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Apologies for the really old picture, but it's always nice to be able to contrast a discussion of high art - poetry, prose, lyrics - with a reminder that what pop stars sometimes do best is have massive cake fights on Top Of The Pops. Not that they can actually do it any more, obv, but still...

Here's Fran from Travis talking about poetry, in relation to his band's new album 'Ode To J.Smith' - an ode being a kind of poem, you see.

He also talks about why rappers can't write new songs, where Keats came up with his best stuff, and why critics are very important so long as they're nice.

There are no cakes in this interview, which, to my mind, makes this picture all the more important. You've got to have balance.