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Graham - I don't thnk Electoral Calculus is much use in Cornwall.

Their web site states "Unfortunately they [local factors] cannot be included, as predictions are driven by national levels of support."

I think you would agree that the political map in Cornwall is entirely different to the one in the UK. Labour's support in Cornwall in no way relates to its support in Cornwall.

Labour's record on Cornwall is abysmal, their regional development agency was an attempt to incorporate Cornwall in a region stretching from Gloucester to the isle of Silly run by un-democratic quango's was an insult ,that coupled with the un-sustainable housing targets proposed by the RSS meant Labour was seen as autocratic and out of touch.

If people want to see what the baby brother is going to bring to Cornwall they should watch this from Bob Crow broadcast this morning on bbcs hard talk

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Arthur Scargill MK2 this is the true face of the new leadership

I think erasing the memory of Blair, Brown and Mandelson is going to take a very long time; this papering over the cracks does not change much as both Millibands were senior figures in the previous administration which broke Britain

"I think you would agree that the political map in Cornwall is entirely different to the one in the UK."

Why? There are other areas in Britain that have Labour and Lib Dems and no Tories. Or Tories and and Labour and no Lib Dems etc. Cornwall is no different. We are talking "big boy" politics here, aren't we?

"Why?"

No other area has such a strong showing from independents in local elections and no other 'English county' has a long established nationalist party or cross party campaign for devolution.

Historically one could also site the Duchy, Stannary Parliaments and rotten boroughs as being quite different.

Cornish Labour needs to become exactly that! Cornish. If the Labour Party engages with the Cornish movement and backs the campaign for devolution to a Cornish Assembly (one could add a few other pro-Cornish campaigns as well) then who knows what the outcome of any future election could be?

"If the Labour Party engages with the Cornish movement"

Surely you mean "movements",TheCornishDem?

I notice you say Cornwall "has a long established nationalist party". That is all Mebyon Kernow is,(if 1951 could be said to be "long-established").As the "Party for Cornwall", there is little evidence of this amongst voters, (most especially in Parliamentary elections).

Slimslad – How many people does it take to form a movement?

MK is a not a political party, it is a pressure group like everything so called Cornish Nationals do, playing to peoples fears with false twisted information, much the same as the BNP do. The famous Cornish gene is a good example of this work, as is second home owners, Emmets and Devonwall and what has all this fear done to improve Cornwall, the results are outside our doors, on the high streets and on the empty boards in the job centre

I have wondered about this "Celtic gene" and the excitement it caused in some quarters,(most especially the members of the Celtic League). Would a person's "Cornishness" have to be tested in the laboratory? Rather sinister.

"Celtic gene"? Where did you get that idea from Slimslad.

As far as I can see Mebyon Kernow are civic nationalists and put no weight in claims of genetic or racial Cornishness.

Are you interested in adult debate or just rather silly misrepresentations and lies? Are you capable of adult debate because I'm more than willing to oblige.

BTW in think it's parties like the BNP, UKIP, English Democrats etc who you should be really looking to for such unpleasent theories of identity, but then again, perhaps you already know that.

"Celtic gene"? Where did you get that idea from Slimslad.?"

Not my "idea",TheCornishDem,. Members of the Celtic League make a point of emphasising the discovery of the "Celtic gene" in Cornwall.
Where did I mention Mebyon Kernow in that post? Nice sidestep there,TheCornishDem!