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"a report from Mark Urban, who is in East Jerusalem, taking the temperature of the peace process and looking at the thorny issue of Israeli settlement building"
thorny issue? dont you mean illegal and inhumane or is proper and justified criticism/condemnation of israel beyond marks remit?

well its not beyond amnesty international in its report published today to be critical of israel and its allies. amnesty report of israels of continuous violation of human rights in the gaza strip and it condemns its ongoing siege .

"Israeli forces committed war crimes and other serious breaches of international law in the Gaza Strip during a 22-day military offensive codenamed 'Operation Cast Lead' that ended on 18 January (2009),"

they also state :

"Among other things, they carried out indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks against civilians, targeted and killed medical staff, used Palestinian civilians as 'human shields', and indiscriminately fired white phosphorus over densely populated residential areas,"

beyond the above comments amnesty state that the usa/uk and the european union with obstructing international justice by using their positions on the unsc to shield israel from accountability for war crimes it committed during last years gaza war.

anyway will mark be 'embedded'(which he must be used to by now with his efforts in afghansitan and being cleared by the isaeli government)as a journo to report from one of the ships that are seeking to break the israeli siege of gaza?

oh if nn is a little unsure maybe amnesty can help - they (amnesty in the report) condemned the blockade as "an outrage," a "flagrant violation of international law" and a disguise on a collective punishment of gazans .

On the Bradford murders you can't help but wonder if there could be an element of a sick individual being inspired by the Yorkshire Ripper but then again if the bodies were dismembered then perhaps "criminology student Stephen Griffiths, 40 " who is being questioned is driven by factors other than say paranoid schizophrenia.

Still its the violent and unhappy end to lives that occupies the mind.

why are we hearing about the missing people now? Two of these girls have been missing for ages...don't tell me the old British reserve of 'not really a 'nice' girl is kicking in..trust the prejudice of English reserve to kick....a profession..if she had been a trainee solicitor it would been on everywhere 24/7

My only worry about reforms like the education and welfare changes is that any change may not have the effect intended. But these days with a volatile economic situation and a debt mountain if you get halfway through a reform and realise it is not going to produce the required results life could get terribly complicated.

That said it seems to me that welfare does need substantial reforms but again it is slightly odd that we will be getting able workers off say the old incapacity benefits and then saying "there are no jobs".

I am perhaps not the sunniest kid in class when it comes to optimism about job creation in the UK right now. That is particularly so as the US has had a few bumps and grinds recently.

It is also a query that if you intend rebalancing the economy - and nobody seems to have a clear vision of that - then you want to re-skill your workers according to the new balance and not the old.

Still it is good to see that we have moved on from the Labour government corpse that was failing to respond to the changing circumstances but was instead busy on preparing for opposition via a scorched earth policy.

"And we have a report from Mark Urban, who is in East Jerusalem, taking the temperature of the peace process and looking at the thorny issue of Israeli settlement building."

Ok I am not anticipating Mark Urban producing a report that stimulates sudden optimism about a peace deal.

Therefore my pessismism suggests that the Israeli's have in effect bet that they can hang on till the Republicans get there and ignore Obama despite him being very able and generally very popular.

Given the weight of his in tray he could become a one term President - sadly for us all.

But there could be a bipartisan long term policy shift in the US as the Israeli attitude on settlements does not seem sustainable.

The afgan inmates found God BEFORE they were incarcerated!

#6 kevseywevsey

"The afgan inmates found God BEFORE they were incarcerated!"

Yes.

That's terribly interesting.

I am starting to see why you have/had a fascination with throwing bottles at the "British" Army and so on.

Never say that English "nationalists" don't make really cogent points.

By the way what happened to "the Griff" and his king making.

I hear also the tiny world of the BNP got tinier with the loss of their Barking council seats.

So "the Griff" is going to go off to places like Hungary where the Nazi's do wear their natty little uniforms and carry flags to tell them where they are going wrong.

Meanwhile the police investigate Collett who did not agree with "the Griff" and threatened to kill his party leader.

Such well balanced and thoughtful people.

#57

Nicely put, Brightyangthing.

It is quite amazing how much effort all round is put into finger arrangements.

As for the weather, it's not a bad day in London, warmer and sunnier than yesterday, not that the weather makes that much difference to my ice skating.

mim

First off thats a crazy price and its not going to happen.

Now I mentioned an art work which influenced me as a teenager :-



Nicolaes Eliasz - 1610 - 1640

What amazed me was the condition of this work. It made me think of how we seen a different value through the filter of change over time. How the heck did it reach down all that time and look like it was painted yesterday ? Well that got me into thinking how important it is to archive the present and that what we think of as not significant or meaningful may-well be very meaningful in the future and hence the thought of archival storage has been something that concern's me. Now its been said gold has no use - no purpose. Let me TELL you gold coated DVD's, hard drives and future storage systems will be/are very important. In fact few things could be more important than being able to store our culture without decay for millennia. The problem with cold storage is the need for a power supply and components that will fail. So gold can literally store our culture far into the future.

The stuff about welfare reform isn't going to happen there will be very high unemployment with more wholesale financial theft of them by the banking elite. The Establishment will face a mob situation. Its a form of anesthetic to try to both scare and humiliate people to take any work they can and then form and mold them into more dependency of debt that they advocated left right center, top and bottom . They can then serve the elite without choice. Truly SICK. SORRY but we have the internet and the public are no longer lied too and anesthetized so easily. Take your money out of banks folks destroy them before they destroy you ! BE assured they will !

dianne abbot is the people's favourite so why can't she get the votes given a leader should appeal to the people not the party? still if labour want to wander off into the wilderness with a succession of losers then that must be where their true happiness lies?

DIANE ABBOT IS UNREPRESENTATIVE? (#10)

We are forever trying to make the police etc 'more representative' by diluting with non-white intake. But Ms Abbott is 100% black in a country 92% white. Might that explain her lack of success in The Age of Fairness?

Whether the PC brigade, or the (elite and vocal ) self appointed ‘arbiters of morality’, like it or not Sex Workers are human beings first and sex workers second Period.

As such they are fully entitled to protection under the law as are all human beings.

In the 21st century a full non-judgemental review of the laws relating to the sex industry needs to be undertaken with the welfare of - rather than meting out sanctions and criminal process to - those whom, for whatever reason, undertake what is to most individuals not an acceptable ‘career option’.

The practice of prostitution, in all it’s forms, will never be ‘gotten rid of’ and consequently needs to be fully recognised as ‘here to stay’.

It is debatable as to whether the sex industry actually provides a valuable ‘public service’ but it cannot be argued that ‘they’ do a less valuable job than say .....

Thinks .....

Hmmm!

The ‘second oldest profession’.

@ Barrie #11 - I doubt it has anything to do with her ethnicity. It's more likely to be the fact that she is a hypocrite......

@ JAPerson #12 - Totally agreed.

670,000 households now receive benefits worth more than £15,600 a year

Between them they pocket at least £13billion a year in benefits - more than the entire annual budget of the Home Office



clearly something should be done?

4 billion a year is given to even fewer people [mainly millionaires] for merely owning land. unlike most countries in the world the uk has no land tax. which is a subsidy for having an asset. this is never mentioned. maybe because, unlike the inner city estate benefits class, they have a vocal lobby in the Lords?

12
..for whatever reason..

like debt, drugs and slavery?

the uk gas market is so bloated with overpriced supply that rather than increase the depleted storage tanks for winter its being flogged off to germany. this happens every summer. they store it in their 120 day tanks then sell it back to us at the winter price.

the government and regulators have let this go on for years who for some reason think a strategic interest like energy should be left to a 'free market' of foreign state back multinationals. its a national disgrace. the british people are being ripped off.

The bra must not be this visable - not good. We must struggle to be able to see it - it should be black on black, the lines should be clean and done correctly it is with exquisite taste. Nobody does this better than you know who on NN.

on why land subsidy won't be cut.

..n refusing to release information about who receives subsidies until after the election, civil servants are exceeding their brief

They decided to protect candidates from being asked questions on the issue and thought it best the public be left in ignorance about the facts.

So who does this protect? Initial research by farmsubsidy.org reveals that possibly up to 70 of the 650 Tory candidates standing at the election could be receiving some sort of subsidy. Up to half a dozen Ukip candidates – who campaign against the EU – could be receiving EU cash as well as a smattering of Liberal Democrat candidates. On the Tory side they have discovered that the declared postcode for receipt of EU subsidies is often the same one as used by a local Conservative Association, suggesting that leading officials of the local parties are also receiving subsidies. These are all taken from the previous year's subsidy figures...




the number of land subsidy millionaires doubled last year.

so is it much more fun for the govt to hassle the poor inner city 'spongers' what?

also

Thousands of British farmers are receiving EU cheques worth less that £1 despite the average cost of processing each claim being more than £1,700.

The Rural Payments Agency processed 67 claims worth less than £1 and 12 worth less than 10p.



must be a work creation scheme?

First it was 'Muslim Extremists', but that quickly became 'Islamophobic', as the treacherous Left responded to the slap in the face the Muslims had inflicted with "9/11" and shown in their vocal support for it. Scrabbling around, desperately trying to re-work their 'multi-cultural' ideas, they hit upon 'Islamists', which was viewed as far more 'accurate' and, crucially, far less 'confrontational'. Now, though, that is no longer suitable - more accuracy is needed. Today, in a new one on me, certainly, Cathy Newman (Channel 4 News) regaled us with the Left's latest upgrade: "Islamist Extremists".

They just can't bring themselves to say "Muslim", can they?

Given the Left sees one of their many roles as Jihadis against Islamophobia, it's rather ironic.

How long will it be before we're banned from using "Islamophobia"?

By the way, it is nice to have finally been told the woman who stabbed Stephen Timms was Muslim, i.e. Asian. The risk I might jump to the 'wrong' conclusions has passed, I guess.

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I know there's a good reason for describing the lifestyle of the women murdered in Bradford in news reports - the fact that they are on the streets as sex workers is obviously relevant. But I do think it's objectionable to define them in the opening headlines as 'prostitutes.' As in "A man has been charged with the murder of three prostitutes." Why not 'the murder of three women'? They should be defined first of all as human beings.

#8 addendum

It's not only finger pointing/arrangements, BYT, but also leg positioning, the colour of clothes people wear, 'tied' or 'tieless' men and incessant repeat of the same phrases, again and again, like 'essential/ly', for example.

After writing my #8 I did wait until 17.30 and went back on ice to see that it was mostly kiddies skating and practicing enthusiastically around, the fact of which I celebrated with a few songs recorded for UNICEF by an African lady/politician whose name is Victoria with children-soldiers for peace, as well as some other pieces.

mim

GO1@7:
I like the way you linked my Afghan one-liner with your material. We should become a double act.

Just so that you know, The British army was very much 'in your face' on the streets of Belfast in the early 70s. As a six yr old I was not fully clued-up on Northern Ireland's politics nor its history but watching the rubber bullets damage the bodies of my pals; faces swollen like balloons..you do react, even as a 6yr old child. When you experience something as the horrors of 70s Belfast, it leaves its mark. Religious division, but same race, with intense hatred on both sides. Even today, walk down even a quiet street of Belfast and the curb stones are painted denoting which side your walking on and you can really sense it; don't buy into the peace process has wiped away the old divisions, its still there simmering away, and it will be easily re-ignited. First hand experience gives a perspective others never could even imagine. Having that experience and understanding the human condition, its tribal instinct plus understanding history; it can only broaden your perspective. Can you really argue against that? Compared to someone whose opinions are formed on what internet sites they visit. They've never heard the sound of a gun or a bullet wizzing past unless its from the TV..most have lived a charmed life without fear of extream violence but they tell us 'all is well'.. well it aint, and i see the signs.
Multi-religious/multi-ethnic societies will always be problematic. The liberal-prozac-medicated-generation that you've come from just don't understand that. You still throw out the charge that anybody who questions immigration is a Nazi/BNP supporter. The irony is the only real hatred displayed on here and in its most naked form..is from yourself. It was people like yourself who imprisoned and burnt the books of Wilhelm Reich and for yrs thought that act was a good thing and never gave any thought maybe, just maybe, that their ignorant and hateful actions may have been a wrong.

Can I suggest that you give the Nazi horrors a miss for a while and check out the other injustices, presently or historically as you are in danger of having a one trick pony tag tied to your cuff. And go out and get yourself a girlfriend or something, get out of the house and have some fun will yer. I'm not telling what to do, I'm only suggesting.

In regards to the welfare assessments, i have experienced this firsthand many times now. I had to prove my spinal problem several times, even though i had letters from GP's, neurosurgeons, MRI photo's, and yet the DWP said i was fit for work, and stopped my benefits, when i was unable to leave the house without assistance, let alone get out of my bed through the injury, yet the doctor assessing me cleared me for work.

When i received the report of the first assessment, everything i said had been changed, or misquoted, or presented in a different light. For example, i was asked "Would i be able to use a lift" to which i replied i would, then when the report came back it stated i could work if there was a lift in place, which is not what i stated.

The doctor examining me was European and had difficulty understanding the nuance of what i was saying, especially with the difference's in statements discussing the differences between drowsy, sleepy, dizzy etc. All these have different meanings, but were lumped under one term. This was a huge problem.

After this assessment, i recorded all further interviews with people from the DWP, as i soon gathered they were inept at their work, and frequently lied or distorted the truth to get the figures down.

I also had to play a trick on a decision maker asking if they had properly assessed a piece of evidence i hadn't sent in. When i questioned how they examined it when i hadn't sent it, they had to backtrack quickly. After this, i began to get proper service from the DWP.

My whole experience with them has been terrible. I do not like being disabled, and find it hard coming to terms with it, let alone having to wade through the bureaucracy of the benefit system. The DLA department work extremely well and are very thorough, and why this cannot be applied in other areas is beyond me.

The thoughts of being reassessed bring extreme unease to me. I had to go through two appeals, tribunals, four or more assessments, not to mention sending in my details and supporting evidence over six times as they lost the evidence and i was without benefits for the first six months.

The whole system is flawed, and it begins with the call centre workers, who are not trained correctly or with any sympathy/empathy to people who sometimes are struggling to come to terms with a disability or ailment. This is paramount. The feeling of being guilty before being proved innocent is anathema to all who go through the process.

Im under no illusion the system needs a complete overhaul and the job seekers allowance department needs sorting, as well as the ESA department but with a sympathetic eye for the incapacitated people like myself who are in the system.

#19

Yes, Strugglingtostaycalm, one has to be 'ever' so careful these days what one says and which way one turns under the 'watchful' eyes of the Soviet style 'clown' and a 'Chinese' mouse.

mim

IN THE LIGHT OF EXPERIENCE (#23)

Leaving aside all reference to Gango, you make a powerful point Kev, with the validity of experience. Appreciated.

If only government ninnies had the first clue of what underlies Britain's problems, we might go forward. I was watching IDS 'engaging' today, and showing all the signs of being completely out of his depth. IDS helped Tony to achieve the War Without End (WWE). What inept pig's ear will he make of welfare?

MULTICULTURE AND THE TOWER OF BABEL

At #24, one of sammythor's hurdles was the Manglish barrier. With Britain being the proud reception area for the world's nomads, are we heading for a post-Babel situation, where no one is fully understood and all subtleties and nuances of language are abandoned - innit?

MEXICO-GULF RIG EXPLOSION AND PIPER ALFA

So it turns out that a cosy relationship between production and safety existed before both incidents. Profit is still king.

How predictable that Magic Obama says HE is responsible for fixing it. No sign of being responsible for it happening in the first place though.

#23 kevseywevsey

"You still throw out the charge that anybody who questions immigration is a Nazi/BNP supporter. The irony is the only real hatred displayed on here and in its most naked form..is from yourself."

Are you being serious here as you were the one slating the Lib Dems and suggesting "the Griff" was going to be a king maker. That does tend to influence thinking. In the past another poster claimed that they were not "nasty Nazi's" and then went on in the next post to try and promote National Socialism.

Almost everybody in the country "questions immigration" rates - but not the race (Religious division, but same race).

You say "Multi-religious/multi-ethnic societies will always be problematic" but for instance most white UK people would not want to "the Griff" as "problematic". The problems may have stuff all to do with race or culture and there are of course major contributions in terms of culture and wealth from immigrants.

OK Wilhelm Reich 'built "orgone energy accumulators" that his patients sat inside to harness the reputed health benefits, leading to newspaper stories about "sex boxes" that cured cancer' as Wikipedia would put it.

I probably would not have regarded that as good science then or now but I may not have jailed him unless I was sure he was fraudulent.

I don't see how that all connects to me just as I don't see how somebody who claims to be an English "Nationalist" who praises "the Griff" is so sensitive about queries of being a BNP supporter.

It's easy to put clear water between yourself and the Nazi's.

"don't buy into the peace process has wiped away the old divisions, its still there simmering away, and it will be easily re-ignited"

Now most people would be thinking that the peace process is a good thing and should be given every chance. The leaders of all the major parties think that.

So who would you vote for if you were still over there?

"And go out and get yourself a girlfriend or something, get out of the house and have some fun will yer"

Do you think its not fun to hammer the far right whiners that try to promote their views on here?

On the girlfriends front if I were you I probably would not suggest "orgone energy accumulators" if it were me.

Still you are the apple blonde sex bomb as you have said before.

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haven't posted for a while due to company. Watched the program though, if can be bothered will go back and comment on previous days. For instance, toby young was basically arguing for a centrally controlled, privatised education system. And Mondays edition was absolutely superb. Francis Maude completely outclassed balls, although maude was hypnotic his arguments had holes in them like the fabled mature cheese.

and OMFG: i've also just watched last sat's Doctor Who on i-player, missed it and didn't have the spare bandwidth. Still a bit freaked out by that episode and my comments last sunday. If i was someone else i'd also regard with suspicion any claims of not having watched DW beforehand.

oh, and mim, if we *were* parts of an "experiment", as you occasionally seem to be arguing, then it was also without my knowledge or permission. Which is unfortunate, because i quite like what you show of yourself through the blog. I hope you've enjoyed the recent sunshine. Maybe we should meet sometime? :*


But the important point raised in the last two days, for me, is this:



and

gnuneo
30 October 2007 at 21:03




my apologies for the flippant nature of my last comment on the first link. If this Govt really *is* about pragmatism, and about common-sense solutions instead of out-dated ideologies and policies, then surely they will act now to give these women greater protection, the way that they themselves argue for? Is this not a more "compassionate" Govt?

please demonstrate it for us sceptics. Please?

#22 CONTINUATION

BRIGHTYANGTHING

RE: FINGER & PALM DANCE

WHAT'S PARTICULARLY AMAZING, BYT, IS HOW MANY TOP POLITICIANS ROUND THE GLOBE ARE NOW IN FAVOUR OF WATTS' HORSEMAN'S RIGHT PALM RAISED UP TOWARDS ETERNITY & IN CELEBRATION OF HEALTHY PHYSICAL ENERGY X4 + THE THUMB

mim

70 million in 10 years?

I don't know why Ashford isn't mentioned here....

As Ashford is going to double in 20 years, that's 50% isn't it? I make that the highest at 25% in 10 years.



I believe I read the ONS predicting our population to grow by another 2 million in 5 years, to 64 million. So the 70 million mark is going to arrive much earlier than predicted. So how many brits will be out of work then, is the "new idea" for immigrants to keep all of us?

p.s. I know of a family of 9 in South America, who all have British passports, 7 of whom have never lived here. How many "Brits" are there around the world who have the right to come and live here. When times get really very hard they will all flock here. And they have the right to do so!

Tarpley: "A casino economy of globalization"



This gets at the financial lunacy stuff in a clear understandable way.

The question is why arnt our main media really getting at Dave and George over banks 'too big to fail' and 'naked' short selling in the UK.

Everybody should be asking this.

#23 Crumbs Kev, thanks for that description of your childhood. I often wondered what it was like for adults living in Belfast, (as I was one then) but didn't realise just how awful it was for you and other children. As you say nothing like experience to realise just how divisive religion can be.

And I think you are right, it's all just simmering away under the surface, much like our new coalition government, all waiting to boil over onto the surface. Somethings going to give one of these days. I watch the faces of the N Ireland government, and I can see it all seething away. I hope it all stays peaceful for the sake of the ordinary family.

There was an episode of Star Trek where Kirk comes across a world at war with no bullets, bombs or nukes. But a war acted out with computers - virtual missiles would be targeted and fired at each side and those beings 'virtually killed' would then have to be actually killed. Their life taken for real. They all accepted this such was the psychosis and willingly walked to their death.

What we have with 'naked credit default swaps' is the same only first its your money taken (your locked into bank accounts) then when fiat money goes the same way as banking 'virtual nothingness' you starve.

It is voodoo economics not a real economy.

Now the saving thing about the star trek episode is that the real death was painless. It will not be for us.

This is the insanity we have in play right now.

SO THAT'S SET THE SCENE (#37)

Any thoughts on how we turn it round flicks?

Not sure yo should invoke sanity. Those who worship ineffable Gods are sure of their sanity. In a secular society it would get you sectioned.

Brightyangthing

I've just had a bluberry muffin & a lemon yoghurt for lunch looking at the Horseman's head & raised right arm. It's very relaxing here apart from the sws.

Do you have any favourite spots where you go to relax and contemplate?

mim

the role of philosophy is to promote that which is good AND forbid that which is not. Prostitution is not a rational 'lifestyle choice'. But in the current pig philosophy ,where there is no good, it is seen as an 'oppression' to prevent people from self harm because of mental illness, drug addiction etc. what a caring 'parent' such a pig society pretends to be.

#38 - 'Any thoughts on how we turn it round flicks?'

Apart from what Tarpley advocates - #35

Nope - only a way to maintain the value of what ever money people have - buy real gold or any real precious metal at spot price. And keep a close eye on the market.

'In a secular society it would get you sectioned.'

Scary thought. But it is financial insanity. Blythe Masters / JP Morgan invented a way to deal with risk and ended up with a virtual destruction device from nothing. We now have nothingness to destroy with. Quite something.

#33: it is not as healthy as sex. But the occasional onanist-orgasm is hardly the worst thing in the world.

#37: the change to a "sane" (thanks for the heads-up barry ;) ) financial model would be as easy as changing to a sane economy, a sane political system, a sane society. It wouldn't be easy, but its far from impossible. There are two requirements - the People have a fairly good grasp of the issues, questions and possible answers, and our ruling class shows the same spirit of flexibility that kept their heads in the past, whilst their French and European siblings attempted to maintain the enormous iniquity and exploitation - and lost theirs.


it was extremely interesting watching jeffrey sachs sweating in his pants at the remarkably mild suggestions by hendries a couple of nights ago. I can't say i'm particularly keen on 'hedge funds', nor the financial hanky-panky that led to them, but hendries was spot on the money for the necessary 'readjustment' method required.

flicks/barry:

#23: i echo lizzy's comments.

are you worried that the proposed "cuts" will reignite the old tensions? Do you think there is a part of the UK Establishment that would actually LIKE the Troubles to restart?

and what do you see as the continued way out of the violence quagmire for NI?

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DEFINING RATIONAL (#40)

I read an erudite book by a prostitute-of-choice Jaunty. Her state of mind came over as on a par with yours. I once heard it was an honoured profession in ancient Japan - never checked.

More things in H and E?

flicks:

"Fannie and Freddie have a half-sister that nobody talks about: she's Ginnie Mae (Government National Mortgage Association). She is wholly government-owned and provides guarantees for housing loans issued by official bodies to low-income buyers. There is a case for Britain adopting that model, possibly with a wider brief to bring some stability to the perpetually volatile housing market. But there's no case for Fannie and Freddie. They are devices that allow the government to give hidden subsidies (probably over $10bn a year) to middle-class housebuyers and private shareholders. They are a warning of what happens when you develop public-private hybrids while leaving accountability and regulatory responsibility hanging in the air. Next time you hear a British politician proposing an "innovatory" solution to something, involving, as it usually does, mixing private and public, think of that."

#43 - Yes Pilger

as ever
is on
the money !

"The people on the streets of Athens do not suffer this malaise. They are clear who the enemy is and regard themselves as once again under foreign occupation. And once again, they are rising up, with courage. When David Cameron begins to cleave £6bn from public services in Britain, he will be bargaining that Greece will not happen in Britain. We should prove him wrong."

the Oik's policies in a nutshell:

"cutting spending in the Economy will increase growth in the Economy."

his next gem:

"reducing taxes on multi-national corporations will induce them to pay more taxes."

and the all-time winner of Imbecile Economics:

"cutting benefits in times of high unemployment and recession will end poverty".


either these guys are on drugs, or they [bleep]ed well should be!! There are 15 year old GCSE students who could drive a tank through these ridiculous notions. How in insane Hell did these jokers get into high political office?

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on the Tory plans to "reform" welfare - OM[bleep]G. Insane, completely insane.

on the continuance of the Coalition - do bear in mind that camoron and clegg are NOT really from "different parties", but have almost identical attitudes and opinions - no matter the two parties may fall out, the 2 Great Leaders are arm-in-arm, and step-in-step.

in fact, the 2 First Families are so close that paternity tests for future camclegg sprogs might be in order!?


its very interesting seeing all these LibDems who we have never seen on QT for instance, crawling out of the woodwork and doing a very good impression of nuLabour Tories. That hyped up wide-eyed 'spinned doctor' in the 'work and pensions' dept last night on NN was a perfect example. How come people like him do not go on QT and actually face the Public en masse with their highly objectionable, socially destructive, and economically catastrophic policies?

--speaking of which, i also have to wonder why clegg and camoron NEVER go on QT, whereas all the other party leaders have (Lucas for the Greens, salmond, even the BNP toad (bravely!) crawled out to say his piece). What is it about nick n dave that puts them so far above the normal citizens, that they feel they do not have to justify their policies to the Public?

especially considering the USSR style 'Leadership Debates', where they STILL refused to hear the public's voices, going so far as to write that into the rules of the 'debates'.

but then if you go to Eton and Harrow, you probably regard the majority of the UKs Public with the same "compassion and affection", as most of the Public regard the chickens who lay the eggs for their breakfast.

How many people would ask the opinions of the farm animals upon which they feed and grow fat on? Or do you imagine that Clegg and Camoron actually CARE about you and your family?

apparently some farm animals come to love the farmer, and trust in them - up until the time of the abattoir (at which point even THEN some of them wonder what "*they* have done wrong"!). The other, less domesticated animals consider them mentally deficient... but what can they do? Educational standards amongst farm-animals have fallen considerably in recent years, and membership of the Meat-Products Union has also fallen dramatically!! :'(

"Meat-Products Of The World Unite, You Have Nothing To Lose But Your Shackles!!" - sound catchy?