大象传媒

:o) Sounds like an interesting show tonight!

I think that should read "in common with the rest of the 大象传媒, Michael Crick will be propagating the idea that tactical voting is a good idea (in cases where it benefits the Labour Party).

ACCENTUATE THE NEGATIVE............ ELIMINATE THE OPPOSITE (ION)


For Tactical Voting, could we be honest and transparent and call it what it is........NEGATIVE voting.

It's not far off Scot's wearing 'Anyone but England' T shirts for the World Cup.

On the Gulf oil spill we are currently exploring pristine waters in the South Atlantic near to the Falklands - an area that is disputed though I would hope there will be a permanent resolution via the the international courts.

Could BP do for the Atlantic and the Antarctic what it has done for the Gulf?

In deep waters where repairs are difficult should there not be some kind of valve or explosive that can be remotely operated to turn it off?

Is it safe for Obama to have given new US exploration and drilling rights off Alaska and the Atlantic?

"A Labour parliamentary candidate was disowned by his local party today after branding Gordon Brown the "worst prime minister" Britain has had." - so says a "bizarre" Labour candidate - according to Labour supporters.

As a Lib Dem voter I am just hoping for Charles Clarke to make one last kamikaze leadership challenge before Thursday.

As for tactical voting and partnerships I would certainly hope that the Lib Dems won't get sucked into that.

A partnership for four years would allow New Labour to re-re-brand itself and recover from the legacy of Iraq and the crash and 10p etc etc.

With those such as croquet Prescott on their team they can't be trusted though I do admire the independence of Alan Johnson he is not the party.

The champagne National Socialist Nick Griffin of the odious BNP was on the Campaign show the other night and was claiming that he was for equal rights for women.

The typical far right posters who pollute this page often stress that too many women are "over-educated" and need to be in the home.

So I am not given to believing Griffin anyway but it is worth noting that if his alleged party views are not chiming with his own party then surely there will be even more internal conflicts.

I seem to recall the BNP Scotland rep claimed that they had Asian and black members. Hence they called the EHRC a "sniveling quango" for insisting it complied with laws over racial membership rules.

Collett, the BNP publicity officer until his arrest for threatening to kill Griffin, may not be typical but surely shows another face (admiration of Hitler and so on).

I certainly hope people vote tactically where there is a danger of the BNP winning something.

On the polls I recall that Ipsos-Mori had a spokesperson who said 60% of the public didn't want a hung Parliament some weeks ago.

Their polls show the Lib Dems in a nose dive.

Harris for instance seems to show almost an inverted trend.

I am sure pollsters would not intentionally fix their results but I don't trust the Ipsos-Mori results.

But in any event there seems to have been so much focused party efforts and unusual factors like expenses I suppose the results polls should indicate may well be very wide of the mark in terms of seats.

But then for the Lib Dems a high polling day popular result wins the moral argument over fairness and the practicalities of how people can get choice and competition for their vote - something Tories like in business but not when it affects their "right" to rule.

Is the Tory pledge to Britain that if they don't perform voters can vote them out not totally inane?

What were they going to do anyway?

#3

BYT

Yes, and it's in the 'interst' of singie and the 'Russian/Chinese' gang.

Street and on ice 'comedy' continues.

I'll go and see now how I get on with the Bond tune that I recorded last night.

mim

WHERE WILL POWER LIE?

Sarah writes: "And we'll be looking at some of the different constitutional scenarios that we could be facing come Friday - where will power lie? With whom, and on what legal basis?"

POWER WILL LIE IN THE ARMS OF HYPOCRISY - IN THE PALACE OF WESTMINSTER.
And we must live within that lie until some bold individual, free from party political taint, can gain entry, and expose the charade played out there BY UNDERDOG as well as the favoured.

BYT, I read with interest of your struggles with unachievable organisation of impossible people. Were Westminster Governance for you to lick into shape, would you allow the, long-enduring, iniquity of differential vote-worth, across parties? Wherein - very approximately - a Labour MP needs only one vote to a Tory's 2 and a LibDem's 3, to get elected?

What manner of mentality (over 600 of them) has not one among them who would refuse to put up with this, by standing up to be counted? I assert, for the umpteenth time, they are not of our kind. The Feudal Westminster Ethos nurtures the Party Ethos and parties, in turn, seek out, and filter, ACCORDING TO 'PRINCIPLES' WE WOULD NOT OWN, their very peculiar, beloved, 'creatures'. These, it seems, are unmoved by the iniquity described above. Might that be how we find ourselves in a corrupt EU, that we never said YES to, and in a war we clearly said NO to?

WESTMINSTER IS WHERE POWER LIES. And we must live within that lie until integrity ,wherever it still resides, stands up, and asserts itself.

STYLE NOTES

Just take one aspect of The three Ninnnies in their needy quest for status. They are all using repetition of simple phrases. Where else do we encounter this? Child education?

I am the first to admit that we are children, but is it right (Human Rights?) to exploit the incapacity of voters for personal gain? We now have war-monger Blair, flapping about unapprehended, in his guilt, and three Machiavellian toads, abusing the vulnerability of the nation's soap-n-sixpack 'gullibles'. What an advertisement for the 'Mother of Parliaments' selection process, within the 'greatest democracy on the planet'.

Oh it's all going awfully well.

#9

The tune didn't get recorded on to my iPhone so I will have to try tomorrow.

IF I RULED THE WORLD..............

#10 Ah, Barriesingleton, that old chestnut 鈥� Governmental Reform.

Even a sick bed hasn鈥檛 stopped these rusty cogs from turning on that one, but to no avail.

Still, I feverishly pondered

a) Elect two candidates per constituency: 1 x local rep 鈥� based on most local votes (as now) plus 1 x national rep for ward/constituency 鈥� the local representative of the party (ooh wash my mouth out) with the MOST votes overall. But that would give a single party government. Where the national balance?

b) Or elect candidates at National level for specific jobs regardless of party. For example in a local committee one far too often finds very kind volunteers offer to take on role of secretary but they cannot drive a computer, write a good letter or handle people very well. Or a treasurer who is not very numerate or good with money.

c) This could leave the local rep as more of a senior local councillor? Wise or Foolish virgin?

d) So perhaps we should vote for (interview) the ministers and junior ministers only (cut the number of MP鈥檚 accordingly) based upon the jobs they are required to do, including the MD/CEO/PM. BUT reality is that most of the WORK of those positions is carried out by minions and civil servants WITH specialist training in those areas.

e) In my current task I am in the process of re-assigning all management committee positions 鈥� now ALL must be filled not just by ANYONE but by the RIGHT ONE. Not easy but actually MORE productive. For example, the pointless titular post of President gets the chop. Or at least becomes a non voting CEO (EXECUTIVE BOARD) rather than a CHAIRPERSON/MD (OPERATIONAL).

f) So Government more like a company where you recruit/vote to the NEED not try and force an octagonal peg into an isosceles shaped hole. There will be no floaters 鈥� or Committee Members 鈥� if you don鈥檛 take up a clear commission (with aims and targets) you don鈥檛 get a position/vote. Too many hours of unproductive hot air under the bridge where people take up the reigns of power in order purely to gain 鈥榩osition鈥� but they leave the slack exactly where it is so you flail around like a rider less horse at the Grand National 鈥� no chance of achieving anything and downright dangerous to others in the vicinity.

Perhaps the biggest failing of democracy is that it allows people who do not understand the system to have a say in the system. Nice idea in a Fair and Equal society, but in the real world 鈥� not so sure.

Yet, we need safeguards. For those very same people who do not understand. Like Me!

So I am still in a 鈥榟ung鈥� state of mind as to what might possibly constitute a balanced and fair (ooh, now I am for the Fosbury) system of governance. For all its faults I do believe we need governance.

BTW, I have never seen anything as powerlessly corrupt as local politics.

It makes one 鈥楪asp and stretch ones eyes鈥�. (Thanks to Hilaire Belloc) Payment for representation on committee, conflicts of business and financial interest abound and anything worth doing gets buried so deep in red tape as to be rendered sterile.

Ah well, back to my small world where perhaps such options might make a tiny bit of difference. Or the next step, which is knocking heads together. Have we tried that one yet?

Brightyangthing

I'm currently sitting in a kind of state of nirvana in High Street Kensington opposite M&S having almost finished a whole packet of Jalapeno tortilla chips, the colour of which has recently been worn by politicians or their spokespeople across the spectrum. Near to me there's a sculpture of a very colourful elephant. Apparently there 250 of them across London but each different in colour and 'skin' design.

The street 'parade' continues, right, left and centre.

mim

THANKS BYT (#13)

A very un-political answer. You SHOULD rule the world.

IN PASSING:
Oh dear Obama is orating again. As I understand it, the Times Square T-shirt seller saw a car with 1) no driver 2) engine running 3) flashers on 4) smoke inside and out. So Obama congratulates New York on its VIGILANCE. No doubt if I yelled, because a car ran over my foot, he would commend my sensitivity. Where do these political barmpots come from?

"Richard Watson has been investigating allegations of postal vote fraud in London and the northern mill towns." NN additional item

WOW, could it be that ecolizzy鈥檚 post #31 plus other blogger鈥檚 comments on this issue may have caused NN to add this important item to their constant hail of publicity for the Big 3 only? If so, this is the first indication that I have had of any interest shown by NN of blogs by other than their own team. So much for people power.Or maybe it鈥檚 just because the 大象传媒 has run the story, so it鈥檚 now more important than the tabloids?

鈥淭he Met said the allegations of electoral irregularities relate to Tower Hamlets, Lambeth, Barking and Dagenham, Westminster, Enfield, Hounslow, Haringey, Ealing, Brent, Bexleyheath, Camden, Redbridge.鈥�
These are all constituencies hotly contested by both BNP and those with a diametrically opposed agenda. Hopefully the WHOLE TRUTH will out.

鈥淭he Electoral Commission said the allegations proved new checks to prevent voting fraud, which were introduced in 2006, were working. Anyone registering to vote by post also has to provide their date of birth and signature so this can be checked when their vote is cast.鈥� That鈥檚 not the way it reads in the Daily Mail; and does the same signature and dob on the registration form and postal vote prove that the person exists as an eligible voter?

Peter Wardle, Chief Executive of the Electoral Commission, said: "The number of reports of allegations should also be seen in the context of the total number of votes - at the 2005 general election over 27 million votes were cast." So we revert to the British default position of Lethargy, Apathy and Complacency? Plus a Tolerance of a few thousand illegal votes (and in marginal constituencies)?

VOTE RADICAL or support the Banana Republic!

Dear Jeremy,

Has nobody noticed the gaze of Mrs. Brown on the campagn trail? It is a shouting facade of melanchonic bordome resigned to the futility of her husbands efforts.

when i raised voting fraud a week or so ago it got deleted.

how can more than 4 people live in a two bed flat never mind 18 or whatever?

the government line that fraud is irrelevant nationally doesn't mean it can't swing a vote locally. the official govt apathy reminds one of the complacency over mps expenses. also anyone elected by corruption then is likely to have to continue such activity to 'pay people' off to stop revealing what went on etc?

so being apathetic now opens the door to the possibility of institution corruption. as we see around the world good government does not just drop out the sky. it is engineered to prevent tampering.

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don't mention vote fraud not the logical obligations upon anyone elected through such a system thereby institutionalising it?

大象传媒 Reality Check

It appears the 大象传媒 do need a reality check, Mark Eastons figures were wrong.

Has the media, Newsnight - particularly - included, put a noose around it鈥檚 own neck?

Ever since the first televised 鈥楶residential鈥� debate those that tell us they are in the know, and, consequently, then tell us they (aka the media.) have 鈥榗ast鈥� their vote as the outcome of this election being a 鈥榟ung鈥� parliament.

Putting aside the projected vacancy for a State鈥檚 Hangman - lotsa applicants assuredly - one must question one possible source of information that the hacks seem to have put an awful lot of reliance upon. Namely the immediate post-debate opinion polls.

These are taken stroke started before the end of each debate. If this is the case people are offering a viewpoint based upon incomplete 鈥榚vidence鈥�. OK, so it鈥檚 not exactly earth shattering but it does have the opportunity to add moderate variation to perception.

More importantly it would appear that these 鈥榠nstant鈥� outcome summaries seem to be conducted on-line.

If this is the case (?) what detrimental effect could it, the method, have upon what has been offered as consensus of opinion(s)

One would have to assume that the Psephologists have done their job(s) and taken into account various factors but .... what if they haven鈥檛?

Whom are the people they contact?

Assuming this surveying is done via the internet there are substantial numbers of households that are not online - perhaps even do not have internet access - or are not waiting, avidly staring at their PC, for the 鈥榓ll important鈥� fifteen 鈥榤ega-bits鈥� of recognition that 鈥榯hey鈥� exist and have an opinion that 鈥榯hey鈥� want recognised! ( Fame! Albeit for only a nano-second!)

Plaudits and pundits alike concede that there are substantial numbers of the electorate that have 鈥測et to make up their mind鈥�. (One even surmised a figure as high as 60 per cent!)

Are these people hesitant to decide, cautious or fearful of condemnation were they to actually to put their position above the 鈥榩olitical parapet鈥� More realistically, if you go by C4鈥檚 Dispatches from yesterday, it would appear that a size-able number are either insufficiently informed or - perhaps more likely - sufficiently ill-informed to take a conscience valid stance!

And then what are the voting positions of those not in, busy cooking basmati rice or walking the dog! ( This being a reference to the four legged - not the biped - version and most certainly not to the well used euphemism for a status symbol!) And what of those that have fallen for the much campaigned 鈥淣one of the above鈥� stupidity?

How about those individuals - not only of the silver haired cohort - that can鈥檛 get round the logic of 鈥渢o turn your PC off, go to Start鈥欌��!


Here鈥檚 the rub ....

If the media get it all wrong - in this case, the Newsnight Team - will we get a mumbled apology between the markets report and the Front pages?

And if we do will it be less audible than the 鈥榦ath鈥� voiced by Sir J when brick-walled by that welsh 鈥榩olitician鈥� sic .....

Probably!




Top Con鈥檚 team are doing a really good job showing us what a real man of the people he really is!

Rolled-up sleeves. (Lost cufflinks perhaps? Or too posh? ) Not up to using a bread-maker, stated in an industrial bakery of course!, And not opening his own - chauffeur driven - car door.

Now he鈥檚 going to be working all sic night! ( But curiously he hasn鈥檛 got time to discuss important issues - of policy perhaps? - by appearing on tonight鈥檚 C4 News! Of the big sic three sic leaders sic he is the only one to decline! ) Perhaps he really needs to do a twelve hour shift in a Care Home for the Elderly Infirmed to prove his mettle?

Or will his advisors suggest he proves how easy it is to live on Job seekers Allowance for one whole week?

Doddle! Or what?

(In the interest of fairness .... which is what this election is all about, isn鈥檛 it?)


Excellent sermon by Mr Brown! .... Unless you are a Psilanthropist! (Look it up if needs be?)


Bogstandardikstan has launched a nuclear strike .... and Mr Clegg is out taking a stroll to clear his head.





And to finish .... 鈥淎t last!鈥� do I hear you say?

If you want to see a politician get a metaphorical - query well deserved - thrashing ....

Check out the Daily Politics Election Special debate on education shown yesterday afternoon on 大象传媒2 and watch the one on the left crumble! He tries to put up a fight but he is just completely swamped! Something to do with the policies perhaps?

THE GEM! .... So far!

Thanks Mr Neil ....

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the way to see the big con is through their charts. ice ages happen on 100k year time frames. the gloabl warming is usually shown on a 20 year tf. yet when you put their 'trends' on the ice age time frame its within normal bounds and doesn't even look like a trend.

so something that on an ice age chart is a tiny dot is now blown up as 'a major trend'.

"GREAT-MAN-SPOUSE TO CONTROL" (#17)

I suggest Sarah Brown suffers from 'over-protection syndrome' triggered by 1)a belief that someone is going to kill him (note: Sarah's eyes flick about like a CIA minder's do, behind the dark glasses) 2) that she realises she is in charge of a LITTLE BOY who just might do ANYTHING!

I think she might be right on both counts.

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Brossen99@19

Do folk still believe that man is responsible for global warming? Are there still Sun deniers out there? I'm almost embarrassed to admit that I too once believed in this nonsense. Once Algorleone and the other corportate mobsters - including the Globalists bankers, spearheaded by a Rothschild nutcase who models himself on Jesus - jumped on the bandwagon, it peaked my interest in doing some research..and hey presto, its a crock! Anyhow, Al gore and his project has lost traction but have invested heavily in the lie. The climate change summit was a flop because the penny finally dropped but they'll still try and push the green agenda because a lot of lifestyles and jobs depend on it.


I think the only ones who still believe in this nonsense are Guardian readers and 大象传媒 staff.
P:S good link by the way.

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..I think the only ones who still believe in this nonsense are Guardian readers and 大象传媒 staff...


there is a whole generation of schoolkids who have been brainwashed. who will dewash them? those same preachers who still believe in it because it suits their philosophic one world government ends?

Why does the 大象传媒 have to resort to sensationalism? The interview and questionning led by Michael Crick was appalling. The 大象传媒 needs to stand for fair, neutral and non tabloid. Surely elevating the debate would meet with most viewers or listeners approval

twitter had two bombs in london today? any news?

Eco-fascists: a partial list 鈥�

This debate about Postal Voting is totally accurate. With no effort on my part I have received 3 possible votes this year.

1) An official polling card on my registered home address.
2) A second official polling card on my temporary address (university postgraduate address) which I assume I retrieved as a result of having to fill out a form registering for Council tax which if I didn't fill out I faced a 拢1000 fine.
3) My postal vote for my registered home address, which was delievered to my temporary address.

Fraud.... is ridiculously easy as I have achieved 3 votes with no effort. Needless to say I am only going to vote once with my postal vote. If only everyone was so honourable.....

As an appendix in the last general election I also had 2 votes as at the time everyone who stayed in university halls of residence were automatically reigstered for a vote.

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Fantastic Jeremy tonight - particularly with Ed Milliband and Theresa May. Interesting debate with the Election Chair who failed to tackle postal voter fraud.
:D Laughed at Stephen Smith's report

OUT FOR THE COUNT

It's going to be a long night. By dawn, Brown will be claiming he has worked out a second solution to Fermat's Last Theorem, Miriam will have hauled Young Nick home by his ear, and Cameron will be JUGGLING ON A UNICYCLE, WHILE DELIVERING 250 WORDS PER MINUTE.

Meanwhile, my local Tory MP, Richard Benyon, has distributed a leaflet hammering 'LibDem lies'. It also offers the irrefutable truth that (verbatim quote) "A HUNG PARLIAMENT WOULD MEAN 5 MORE YEARS OF GORDON BROWN." This is followed with another truth: "THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE FIVE MORE YEARS OF GORDON BROWN IS TO VOTE CONSERVATIVE."

Sarah McDermott asked: "Where will power lie"? Well Sarah - you can start with Newbury, apparently.

It's all lying wonderfully true, isn't it!

#13

A 'funny' idea that, of 2 representatives - 1 local and 1 national, somewhat off the rails though, it seems to me, BYT.

Here you are, making all kinds of rational, intelligent and common sense ideas and suddenly you come up with Dusty Springfield, Flick somebody and 2 reps, especially, as you say, the fact of corrupt local politics. Do we need a corrupt local rep? Surely not.

mim

'WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION' - NEW DEFINITION!

The car left in Times Square is now designated a 'weapon of mass destruction'. And even though Obama says the American People cannot be terrorised, it was a Terror Weapon.

That must be worth an invasion - somewhere. How's that sore shoulder Britain?

Baz at 36. Fascinating story. The media over there kept banging on about a man acting suspiciously near the car bomb. "authorities are looking for a middle aged white man".."middle aged white man"..a white man of middle years"...a white man hunted".. white white white white white white white white white white white...a middle aged white man.

And then the prime suspect changed to a Pakistani man. "He recently visited Pakistan".."he's a 'lone nut'.. "Not a radical Muslim"...silence in the media, and then nothing..nothing! NOTHING!
The left wing media and the left wing political hacks are saying nothing.

The USA is infected.

I was fascinated to watch all the 'new' type gesticulations on Newsnight tonight, particularly by the Labour and LibDems politicians. Admittedly it can be a pure coincidence but these gestures remind of my own on ice and that is what the taxpayer is paying for. 'Comedy', charade, copy cat behaviour under the direction of some fraudulent 'joker' with access to wires and buttons.

That's one of the worst legacies that Labour is hopefully going to lose with.

mim

#53

gnu

an eye for an eye

whisper for whisper

VOTING FOR CHANGE (#37)

Gotta smile Kev. Labour and Tories voted for war. Only LibDems refused. One might be forgiven for thinking 'Vote Clegg - keep peace'. But unfortunately, what doesn't change is the way they go (even more) funny in the head, once in No 10.

'Go back to your constituencies and prepare for war!'

#37 kevseywevsey

"white white white white white white white white white white white"

"The USA is infected."

Never mind when I first heard about the incompetence (as Jon Stewart of the Daily News has pointed out Fox kindly pinpointed where they went wrong) I thought far right head banger.

That's what you thought obviously but clearly its the extremist Muslim (not mainstream Muslim) type.

Have you ever thought that "black black black" or "mixed race mixed race mixed race" might be just be the same as you given that's what the science shows.

Genetically you are probably related at some long distant point.

I could say "check mate" but I'm not flash about how many syllables I can utter.

#13 brightyangthing

"For those very same people who do not understand. Like Me! "

Yes when people start talking about people "who undertsand" being left to make the decisions you start to wonder about champagne national socialist Nick Griffin and few sane people are going to let him make the decisons.

I am with mimpromptu here.

#26 kevseywevsey

"Do folk still believe that man is responsible for global warming? Are there still Sun deniers out there?"

mumseywumsey didn't tell you about the three separate panels of scientists who agree on climate change being due primarily to human impact and you being a man from Belfast who had cousins who threw bottles at the "British" army whilst you sang according to your old posts beg to differ .....

Its such a tough choice as to who could be right and who could be wrong.

In retrospect the Lib Dems should have gone for the Tory throat and queried not how they would clear up the New Labour debacle but how they would prevent repeats in the future.

They have said close to nothing on that.

#27 jauntycyclist

"I think the only ones who still believe in this nonsense are Guardian readers and 大象传媒 staff."

Whilst the far right supporters who propagate any conspiracy theory have risen above the science hence their total abstinence of scientific facts to support their views on climate change.

Assertions without facts like racism and sexism are just abhorrent psychological defects.

#16 indignantindegene

"WOW, could it be that ecolizzy鈥檚 post #31 plus other blogger鈥檚 comments on this issue may have caused NN to add this important item to their constant hail of publicity for the Big 3 only?"

Could you be missing this isssue was important in the last election and that Lib Dems and Tories and I assume Labour have all repeated the same concerns on postal voting fraud?

Does that mean that say, for instance, BNP policies - or UKIP - are right?

No!!!!

If so you would not be relying on ecolizzy but hard evidence or a party name.

By the way I am stirred to recall a previous ecolizzy post where that poster said that that poster did not like visiting London due to the racial mix.

Preconceived ideas or what?

Isn't the Labour strategy on voting tactically a typical "clever" New Labour device to cover the fact that they night come third?

Only because they urged the public to vote tactically.

Actually the polls say the Lib Dems will come third but I am still not convinced by that and I am much more sceptical about poll changes than before as they appear to be unrelated to events.

In any event the winds of change are blowing and in some respects the Tories playing out why their ideas are no longer relevant are a good thing.

Little Lord Fauntleroy will lead us to prosperity and happiness and ... Conservatism. Its what the country is crying out for - or perhaps the BNP posters would claim that they have all been lusting for national Socialism.

Are all politicians mad?

Who knows but the far right are.

#24 barriesingelton

"I suggest Sarah Brown suffers from 'over-protection syndrome' triggered by 1)a belief that someone is going to kill him "

Its just like Nick Griffins wife really given the (BNP) Collett threat to kill him ............................

#10 barriesingelton

"
WESTMINSTER IS WHERE POWER LIES. And we must live within that lie until integrity ,wherever it still resides, stands up, and asserts itself."

So long as the headbangers don't vote BNP eh?

But then only those naive people seduced by far right lies and the far right cultist worshipers of Hitler would do that.

#36 barriesingelton

"The car left in Times Square is now designated a 'weapon of mass destruction'."

Whilst in the UK a far right geezer can create ricin that can kill in very small quantities and he will be treated like an eccentric muppett.

I've said it before elsewhere but I still think that if the electorate learned what methods, and at what cost, have been 'invented' by Labour, and insanely promoted by Mandy, to 'win' them support, they might think twice before voting for them.

mim

#mim:

#53 yest cont,

if all that sounds unlikely, or boastful, i ask you to read my post #31 of this page; it is about al Megrahi, and his innocence at a time when the media was screaming for him to rot in prison until he died, never mind any 'compassionate' leave. You might recall that the inquiry since has cleared him of involvement in the crime of Lockerbie, for which he spent long years in prison for.

/blogs/newsnight/paulmason/2009/08/oil_megrahi_and_energy_securit.html


and on the iceland banking crisis:




--and perhaps most interesting to you, if you haven't bothered with the above, is that if you remember, Gordon Brown's and David Cameron's sudden conversion to cooperatives happened about 6 months ago? Here is me on the topic in *2007*:



first comment.

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tonight:

news@ten: the US intel services would have followed such a suspect as soon as they came back - they had the plot straight away. They only left it to the end of the plot to capture them in the act. There was NO chance of the plot actually occurring, so no need to make such a scary story about it.

A better message from the media would have been to emphasise the ability of the intel agencies to keep the country safe. The only reason to REPORT it as a "nearly successful" attack is to focus attention on the potential Islamic terrorist.

...to - it goes without saying - create and concentrate fear again!


the big 3拢 Parties: not only are they going to cut 20% of the spending on Schools, Hospitals, Police etc (take it as assured they are all lying about any "ring-fencing"), the important point to remember is that this is predicated upon NuLabour's last Budget figures, which claimed the UK Economy will be growing at 3% in the very near future - exactly where the growth is to come *from*, they are noticeably silent. If the British Economy does NOT grow at that projected rate, then they will "cut deeper" - their hands are tied you see, its the 'Financial Crisis', and "we can only afford to do what we can afford to do.". Already, with the tax/spending commitments by the Big 3拢, we are facing cuts in public services and public investment far worse than either the 80s, or else the 1930s in the case of the Conservatives. And they will cut deeper later.

as Ireland is showing, cutting public debt through cutting spending simply DOESN'T work, what is needed is the opening of space for new products, industries and services, and that could be helped tremendously by Govt initiatives. If we get a majority Govt, of either Tory or NuLabour, both Thatcherite Party wings will ignore their pre-election promises and cite the cuts they "need" to make - as excuses for not doing what they promised.


a multi-member, weak party list Proportional Representation style of voting not only strengthens the connections between MPs and their constituents (because the constituents are far likelier to have at least one MP who is in line with their votes), weakens the ability of the Party's High Commands forcing inappropriate candidates upon local constituencies, but also gives a result that is far more accurate to the wishes of the actual British Electorate.

and now we have vote-rigging - who the hell is surprised??

and it seems ALL the Big 3拢 are at it, and we won't hear about any investigations until AFTER the election. Will those constituency results that are questionable be re-contested in a new, clean election afterwards? Or are we also to be like poor Afghanistan, handed "an election" like a sweetie, only to have to choose between a small number of 'parties' that have identical policies (but perhaps different "aspirations"), and who are corrupt to the core. And just like the Aghans, we will be expected to put up and shut up.

if the Tories get in, they have already made a "deal" with Rupert Murdoch regarding the 大象传媒. They sold our railways, our water, gas and electricity, and our National Airline. Guess what would be next, and the likely buyer?

#39: by definition a whisper, like a private conversation, is only between the people concerned.

to take an eye for an eye, when the punishment is non-just, by the end leaves *everyone* blind.

All Eternity exists at once
Bullies laughing at the cripple
Consciousness is a Reality-matrix
Love expands

#53

Whose love?

Methinks you're still taking me for a fool.

#51 addendum

I also wonder whether the electorate is aware of the electrode wired operation 'Cobra'?

2. At 12:44pm on 04 May 2010, MaggieL wrote:
I think that should read "in common with the rest of the 大象传媒, Michael Crick will be propagating the idea that tactical voting is a good idea (in cases where it benefits the Labour Party).

For those so inspired, here's a convenient link:



As all parties are so keen on this option and have been pushing it so vocally, it is only right the 大象传媒 should throw their full weight behind the effort.

22. At 8:20pm on 04 May 2010, JAperson wrote:

Since the first televised 鈥楶residential鈥� debate those that tell us they are in the know, and, consequently, then tell us they (aka the media.) have 鈥榗ast鈥� their vote as the outcome of this election being a 鈥榟ung鈥� parliament.

News seems to have moved on from opinion to self-fulfilling prophecy. What next? Subliminals?

It's all so corrupted now, I am thinking of going postal. But that's another story.

45

..Assertions without facts..

like calling people flat earthers and 'deniers' for pointing out climate change is a scam run by those with vested interests?

we know the marxists went into climate activism as a trojan horse to push their one world agenda. which is why ludicrous loaded terms like climate 'justice' have come up.

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Fingers and legs crossed one day I may be able to say to the men /and women/ of my own choice something to the effect Shakespeare once wrote:

'Come, gentlemen, I hope we shall drink down all unkindness' and insanity.

mim

#53

I have much more worked out that you may dare or care to think but for personal reasons I do not reveal everything. It's something to do with soul and honour searching/recovery. Nothing to do with 'my' tutor from SSEES, Senate House. who indeed whispered to me by the lifts the word 'essential'. This was more than 2 decades ago.

:o) I look forward to watching Jeremy's General Election coverage from the top tier of the special "Coliseum" Set..... (9:55pm tp 6am, 大象传媒1)

Source:

I believe I read there are 600,000 Roma in Hungary waiting to move to other parts of Europe.

Hungarian politics

#61

Mistress76uk

I'm preparing for that stretching and exercising my neck by looking high up into the sky whenever I can, currently perched against one of the benches between Kensington Palace and Watts' Horseman passed the glimmering lake.

mim

#64mim Better look-out for the Pidgeons; if they're as accurate as the Brighton seagulls they'll score a bull's-eye!

#61 IMPORTANT NEWS FROM THE COLISEUM

"To his right is a big results touchscreen operated by Emily Maitlis and above them all on the top tier will be Jeremy Paxman, interviewing guests from on high."

History tells us that "Rome burned whilst Emporer Nero fiddled"
Here we will have Paxo pouring scorn whilst the Results are fiddled.

We're probably heading for similar extinction as a nation.

VOTE RADICAL or become a Banana Republic

energetic leaders

are they drug tested?

votes for cash?

apparently the commonwealth election monitors are appalled at the lax british voting system? which country is teaching democracy again? uk or afghanistan?

#54: i do not understand you.

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#55 post MK-Ultra, brain electrodes are SO yesterday. Nowadays, all is needed is a subcutaneous microphone, and an agent close to the target to destroy their self-confidence and induce a schizophrenic state whereby there is a unbridgeable gap between the target's 'Observed Reality' and what external Society will accept as possible.

it has been released under FoI that in the 50s/60s onwards, both the FBI and CIA used carefully pulsed electrical signals to political activists fridges(!) - to make them sound as though they 'were communicating' - only doing this when the activists were alone, naturally. These were people who were fighting against the Vietnam War, or for human rights and equality. Many either committed suicide, or else were eventually locked up in asylums. Again, all this is fully documented, and released under FoI legislation.

we already know British Intelligence has been directly involved in physical and psychological torture of 'suspects', and that the UK Govt has lied through its teeth to block the truth on this matter - just as the Conservative Govt under Thatcher tried to block publication of Peter Wright's 'Spycatcher'.

but of course, those 3 fluffy cuddly men currently scrambling around the Country to 'win' our votes wouldn't ever do anything quite so dirty, would they? Just as they all voted *against* the illegal wars our SOLDIERS are fighting on their behalf!

#59: i have searched for such a beverage, if i ever find such an elixir, i think i shall call it "hyggelig-bryg". You would be welcome to join me in a sup. x

#60: oddly enough, yet again i do not understand. Have we met IRL?

#67: actually, it is the US teaching 'democracy'. It seems many over here, in our Amateur's Paradise, are copying the tactics of US 'machines'. Worth bearing in mind the sheer scale of electoral fraud in the US since the 2000 election, where not only were hundreds of thousands deliberately disenfranchised in swing constituencies (think Florida), but also the Supreme Court *trashed* the Constitution to hand our favourite ever President, G W Bush, the People's Saviour, Uniter not Divider, Peacemonger Extraordinaire, unaccountable political power, and the unlimited ability to make war upon Islam for his 'religious convictions', whilst making a bundle of money for his family and friends in the process.

no doubt after the bells have tolled for our next election, and fraud is discovered, we will ALSO get the US 'solution' - an easily rigged electronic Ballot machine built and maintained by Halliburton, or one of their subsidiaries.

how fortunate for us that we live in one of the World's few 'Democracies', and that *we* don't need international monitors to make sure the Big 3拢 are playing it clean.

even if fraud is detected, no-one will go to prison for it, and we can all go back to sleep happy and secure in the knowledge that whatever Govt we have, it SURE reflects the Wishes of the People, so we cannot complain about what they are doing to us and our Society.

does anyone else feel like we are an Nation occupied, and we have 3 quislings running around trying to make us believe we have "choice and fairness" in this Election?

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