大象传媒

... In Somalia,

for example, there are a significant number of UK residents training

in Al Shabaab camps to fight in the insurgency there. Al Shabaab, an

Islamist militia in Somalia, is closely aligned with Al Qaida and

Somalia shows many of the characteristics that made Afghanistan so

dangerous as a seedbed for terrorism in the period before the fall of

the Taleban. There is no effective government, there is a strong

extremist presence and there are training camps attracting would be

jihadists from across the world...



oops. makes afghanistan look redundant?

COALITION CLEGG - SIN OF OMISSION OR COMMISSION?

When Nick stood lamely by, during the Papal pomp, did it occur to him that a 'Hell of a lot' of HOSPITAL CAR PARKING might be purchased for the price of one Papal progress through the UK?

Does the Popemobile park free?

#47

Are you trying to unite all the disunited nations, table,01, with the hope of flying to NYC as a hero with peace engineered forever and ever? To 'crown' the Pope's visit, may I say to that 'amen'??

Do the UN's professionals like wearing jeans by any chance?

#3 addendum

I shouldn't think it'll work out, however. You seem to lack the right personality for that, I'm 'sorry' to say. As you keep
telling so many people off for being stupid and 'inadequate', your chances of achieving your goal seem 0 to me.

Oh dear oh dear

They just never learn do they.

A morning of excitement watching all the lunacy - I have to stop the excuses for not painting.

Al-Qaeda's threat to kill Pope foiled!

Jauntycyclist

This is from your link quoting Thatcher in the previous thread which smears together Hayek, Catholicism and the 'Big' Society etc:

"It is our duty to look after ourselves and then also to help look after our neighbour and life is a reciprocal business and people have got the entitlements too much in mind without the obligations, because there is no such thing as an entitlement unless someone has first met an obligation"

First question: What entitlements do children have? Who is the someone who must meet an obligation first? Is it the child?

Second question: If there are ever growing numbers of those in a society who never physically (cerebrally) mature beyond the mental age of children (i.e never get to, let's be generous, 18) why should they be treated any differently to children. Is there something magical about chronological age?

These are very difficult questions, and there are no easy answers. However, unless one is prepared to ask them and to really think through the implications, one falls foul of political rhetoric. There are people like this in our society and the data shows we are getting more diasabled cognitively. Why? One need only think of Down Syndrome people for one example. In the news recently, OFSTED tried to make out that there are not as many non-statemented SEN pupils in schools as teachers make out (1/5 have Special Education Needs which include School Action and School Action Plus)..The NUT disagrees with OFSTED on this and does not think that there is a major over classification or that it is just bad teaching and not low learning ability. Now, imagine if this percentage was to increase through more SEN pupils being born for whatever reason, one might be more marriages and births between in laws in Muslims for example) - who will look after them if their parents don't (for whatever reason as they are made more secular?)..

What you are seeing in the 'Big' Society rhetoric (unlike the equally misguided 'Great' Society rhetoric in 60s USA where programmes e.g.
HEADSTART failed) is basically Charles Murray's Libertarian 'The Plan'
which is anarchism. That is Hayek..Hayek was an anarchist. That is the explicit philosophy of the Austrian School. Check it out if you don't believe me - see the Von Mises website. It's why they fled Germany/Austria. Maybe they meant well, but it doesn't matter - people often mean well, but do bad things out of ignorance of the consequence of their actions. We are, many suggest, in the mess that we are in now in, because of Hayek, Friedman and other Libertarian Neocons' influence in the 70s. Please look into this more critically, as one can't have a world order based on anarchism. It';s what led to WWII.

4. At 1:52pm on 17 Sep 2010, mimpromptu wrote:

"As you keep telling so many people off for being stupid and 'inadequate', your chances of achieving your goal seem 0 to me."

It's a tough job to be sure, but someone's gotta do it!

Nice to see Baroness Warsi on board last night castigating naughty Emily. Something tells me barrisingleton is after a smacked bottom too!

"6. At 2:47pm on 17 Sep 2010, Mistress76uk wrote:

Al-Qaeda's threat to kill Pope foiled!"

From the website:

"DEBKAfile in English and Hebrew is updated four times a day, seven days a week"

It's an interesting website. I'm puzzled as why they update it in English and Hebrew though. Can you explain?

"It's the same thing!" How often do we hear that these days?

This is, I suggest, a symptom of our having made it verboten to discriminate!

NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MOVING IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS!

How diverting that Peter Sellers' rendering of 'Dr Strangelove' sounds remarkably similar to the current Pope. I just knew I had heard him before.



Go to around 2.5 minutes

No1 RE Training Camps

If People are Identified as so called British Citizens

Then they and their Tribe should be asked 2 Leave

You Suckers are paying Tax supporting these people

These people go off and try 2 Kill British Service/men/women

which you also support through paying Tax, Its A Kind of Madness

You Choose who Support I Know who I Support

RE my last some days ago RE an Offensive Building.

Cheap Option Buy A Black Sausage (its made from Pigs Blood)

Feed your Kids with 3 quarters and Throw THE Last/NO Quarter at the Buiding

Post on Last Page/Post Removed

I NO where YOU Stand On PEEDO'S DeaRest Anti Beeb EH

INSTITUTIONAL CORRUPTION (#14 link)

Because we will not admit, globally, that we 'LIVE WITHIN THE LIE' nothing institutional can be trusted (banking, schooling, politics, religion, UN etc). But individual competence has been eroded to a low point by INSTITUTIONALISING education and TV content that bypasses the higher brain, so we (mostly) cannot even rely on ourselves.

If it looks like doom, cracks like doom and rhymes with boom . . .

15 I Love IT

The Sad thing is, It Smells/Tastes/Spells Like True

"INSTITUTIONAL CORRUPTION (#14 link)" - And its quite amazing to me that this guy - A politician has it in him to put it out there. Of course no one is switched on to the profound importance of what he is touching on, least the mainstream media. I'm sure Tim Geithner will be doing something about such silliness.

"NO ONE IS SWITCHED ON" (#17)

There is a beautiful moment in 'Groundhog Day' when Phil Connors says to the two drunks: "Have you ever considered what it would be like to wake up every day, to find everything is the same, and nothing you do matters?" One of the drunks gathers a couple of brain cells and replies: "That just about sums it up for me." (All quotes approximate.)

Somebody has been going round systematically switching us off.

If we were all switched on, the Pope would win the Nobel Prize for Standup Comedy. Poor Dawkins (who would come second) must be busting a blood vessel.

THE SCAMMERS SCAMMMED (19 link)

(:o) Bro. I had been mourning the clever use of the (supposedly) non-entity preacher, threatening to burn the Quran, dominating 9/11 news. But James Evan Pilato was too smart for them, and turned the tables. Brilliant.
When I get my next booklet from BT, trumpeting the amazing service and all its new money-saving deals, I might just declare a Newbury 'book burning' - the Weekly News will love it!

LIKEWISE THE BOGUS GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR (#20)

Blimey Bro - is the worm turning? Will we see the Patriot Act in court next?

Surely we shall not fail to love Big Brother?

barrie #18 was a classic !

#7 In the news recently, OFSTED tried to make out that there are not as many non-statemented SEN pupils in schools as teachers make out (1/5 have Special Education Needs which include School Action and School Action Plus)..The NUT disagrees with OFSTED on this and does not think that there is a major over classification or that it is just bad teaching and not low learning ability.

This caught my eye, having had a statemented child in the school system and a nephew who should of been statemented I know how it all works. There are less children who are statemented but NEED to be statemented not that being statemented means anything to the schools involved. My nephew goes to school from 8.30am till 11 am monday till thursday just to do English and Maths, the school he goes too has failed him in his education and HAMPSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL should be ashamed of themselves, I can report that my daughter through sheer determination has managed to get an AS level in IT and her 0' levels in Maths and English but that was not due to the school she went too (same one as my nephew) it was due to the colleges she attended. She has now been accepted into the Armed Forces and I am very proud of her for the achievements she has attained for herself.

I am watching Newsnight and a discussion on the Popes visit.
I am not a Catholic but why is the popes image shown in what appears to be covered in blood as a backdrop!

Has someone lost their marbles?

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IT'S CALLED EDGY FUN NEWS - A NEWSNIGHT AWARD-WINNING SPECIALITY (#25)

You should have seen some of the other triumphs bernard. And then there is Kirsty's wardrobe!

The fact that only you and I have made comment, speaks for 'habituation' of the Newsnight viewers to overlays, underlays and even son-et-lumiere Wombling free; with over-saturated reds thrown in for full licence-fee measure.* This Titanic has thrown the deck-chair arranger overboard already, but the Entertainments Officer is still in post, with a fund of super ideas - as the iceberg looms.

*I forgot the see-through London buses.

Oh - its all produced terribly well.

Auntie Beeb Does YELLa mean yellow or Summit else

save ur sad silly skin aunTEE it isnt worth it

Does zero zero mean Nufink/THINK or does Eleven MEAN 2

THE NO is " the colour is Blue

Why Doo I/eye/Aye/ Waste MY Time On U

u r waste

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#18

BRAVO BARRIE.

UnderStand Over Stand I wish I cood UndersDant

and under/overstannd stan is thee deemanD

is he in DEEmanD

not 2 me the idiot u idiot is INT yous Your Int/innit

#25

perhaps it was meant as a 'joke', referring to the foiled attempt to assassinate him, as per #6.

#18

It must be very upsetting, chemical singie, to feel to be, or simply, be cut off.

#25

Kind of funnily enough, bernard, the expression 'losing one's marbles' was in my mind all day, and so I've just come up with this quatrain:

What happens when one loses one鈥檚 marbles?
Well, first of all, one鈥檚 mind becomes all foibled,
Like, for example, thinking one can smack everybody鈥檚 bottom
If they do not conform to one鈥檚 鈥榝airy tales norms鈥�.

to be continued, perhaps

'25. At 11:01pm on 17 Sep 2010, bernard

Elgin... He was a very naughty boy!

Ably noted now a few times, if to no response. Dignified silence will serve, one is sure.

Probably it enhanced a narrative. As to whose, and with what aim...

Of course, it's frowned on to even show certain messengers, much less mess with their image.

But that's a different story.

#35

who 'was' elgin, junk, and what 'was' his /self/image?

DAVE IS MILKING THE BABY

But none of the Conservative 'relatives' want to lay eyes on the Conservative brainchild that I am holding.

Its first words were (back in May): "THE CONSERVATIVES MUST WIN HERE TO STOP 5 MORE YEARS OF GORDON BROWN".

Would you like to see the child?

Number 10 attacks Vince Cable over immigration cap claims:

"A lot of damage is being done to British industry," Mr Cable said.
He added he was in favour of the Government's plans for a permanent cap from April but wanted to see a more flexible approach.

Number 10 sought to play down any rift, as the business world came out in support of Mr Cable's comments."



Business interests? Whose business?

Weren't people posting on this matter a very long time ago? Wasn't the case made that the longer-term consequences to the population (all of us including migrants here) would be that overall skill level would be driven down and thus GDP down too? That would mean crime going up through lack of regulation as we had to abandon and unaffordable state (regulation)?

Short-termism is another word for self-centred stupidity which is what asset-strippers do. Asset strippers don't care about their environment, they just care about short-term profit..

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#38

short, you say? too late to grow up at your age, shortie
you've 'picked' the wrong girl
I may not be tall in height but I do walk tall and, from what I think anyway, I can reach high notes when singing with opera singers, Nina Simone or Susan Boyle. They may not be perfect but I do, I'm quite sure, and can also hold notes for a long time. Oh, and my glides on ice are long and my twirls are endless, so to speak.

#39 correction

I used the singular form of the word 'crawly' but did spell it wrong, though at least it does contain a word within word, which is 'lie'. Quite 'suitable' in this case.

34 Mim
I have lost my Marbells does that ring A Bell for You
I only have 2 Does that Ring A Bell/shell Like fore U

Eazy 2 Find, Help Me Find them Balls MarBALLS They are not made of MarBALL, they are made of summit else

The Elgins should go go back 2 from wence they Came

did i mention the OLD DEAR

#42

kicking your balls in my direction, are you? I shouldn't think you'll be able to ever recover them as I'm planning to deflate them with the numerous needles, scissors and Swiss nail devices that I've accumulated over the years

As my former MP said after his unfortunate affair spread all over the media - it's 'buisness' as usual. That's at least as far as my commitments go from which I'm unlikely to deviate

Good grief!

#45

And I thought that diamonds were a girl's best friend, Mistress76uk.

:o( and the new look 大象传媒i Player isn't doing too well.....

The mainstream media is nothing but a prop for the legalised banking fraud. What makes the 大象传媒 all the more despicable is that were forced to pay (over a 1000 have seen the inside of a jail for not and have/had a record that no doubt plighted their career prospects) for the enforcement of a vile feudal system of wealth removal . All the presenters are just cut out from the cardboard of their own greed, what they present is a banking/govt pay off :
You keep what we are doing out of the public spot light and we will pay you a small fortune and in the case of the 大象传媒 - force the UK public to pay.

Zerohedge.com report a 12 billion spend in July alone on US bonds and nothing in the main press. So the implications of a bond market bubble Ponzi hasn't dawned on them yet. The link was removed from Peston's blog telling me it was 'not on topic' - get that for a sick joke everybody.

Oh dear

A British MP standing up in the house of commons and stating that the whole banking system is nothing but a massive Ponzi scheme to qualify and move a bill against it and zero interest from the media qualifies the above. Not only that but the gold bugs and disaster financial shock - rant&rave reporters ignored it as well - possible good news is bad business for them.

#48

who are you addressing, flicks2, when you ask to keep whatever you're up to out of public spotlight? And, are you in cahoots with tb01 when you say 'we'?

43 MIM

You can Kick My Balls in ANY Direction You Likey B A *ikey

I Love U

post 48 are u singing/singing my song

the song remains the same/keep singing your song

I Will Join You In The ChorUS/all 2 gether now

"You keep what we are doing out of the public spot light and we will pay you a small fortune and in the case of the 大象传媒 - force the UK public to pay."
=
The banks who tells the Govts what to do who tell the press what to do.

All stuck together by money; greed; affinity fraud; perceived status in life; the class system, where necessary muck raking, firing and setting people up to keep them 'in-line'

Auntie RE PeeDoes

Chek this out,the Name Of The Banned is Apocalyptica

the name of the Song is, I Am Not Jesus/Ezuu

if you have ayes watch the vid/divid

AS TRUE FOR FALSE DEMOCRACY AS FOR ANY TOTALITARIAN STATE (#52)

In 1979, the Czech playwright and dissident Vaclav Havel illegally published his famous essay, "The Power of the Powerless." He analyzed the nature of the totalitarian system and the role of the individual in it, both as victim and supporter. That the Marxian and socialist promises and prophesies were unfilled and unrealizable dreams was known to all. By the late 1970s, within the Soviet-bloc countries, true believers no longer existed. Socialism in practice was a system of perpetuated power, privilege and corruption. 1993



Dave'll fix it.

ADDITIONAL TO #54

It is easy to fall into the trap of thinking this or that regime is doomed to fail, and to envisage one that will work. But the reality is: IT'S THE APE CONFUSED BY LANGUAGE (stupid) that fails. When a pathetic human failure such as Clinton can survive a massive display of immaturity, and go on to 'Elder Statesman' status, THEN TO LAUD BLAIR AS A NEAR-SAINT, you know that we are globally screwed.

GLOBOPOLY is the game. Only few can play. Never in the history of this once-viable planet, has so much been messed up, for so many - by so few.

#52

flicks2 - 'Paul', if I remember correctly from our phone conversation

Was it you who had brain surgery not that long ago or is it somebody else who's usurped the name 'flicks' and writes the current texts full of mistakes under 'flicks2'??

#53

divid + david? which one? all of them?

not reciprocated, 'duke'
you're wasting your time, and that of many, many more
and not only time

57 50 ate

DVD Not VD

Waste I Dont Do Waste/What's your Waist

Time What is Time I am Late 4 A very ImportANT Date

At leest I No You still Love Me, What does luv mean

#59

Love is undescribable.
You are wasting my waist

Ive been looking for legal precedents to help people shaft the vile fractional reserve banking system.

Those in America who find themselves on the wrong end of the the mortgage scams take note and close study of the above case.

VEXATIOUS GOVERNANCE (#61)

Lot of it about flicks.

I understand that the little boy who pointed out the Emperor's nakedness, had his finger judicially amputated. He later made a voluntary confession of visual impairment (attested by 327 independent medical experts) and performed a televised apology at peak time to a worldwide audience. He has now entered the Catholic ministry.

That which is no longer relevant

#62

Penitence is one of escape routes, singie

#63

simply can't wait to see the link, flick

~38 tabblenabble01

'Number 10 attacks Vince Cable over immigration cap claims'

I agree with your comments, and add my concerns about the constant 鈥榥eed鈥� for GROWTH.

Do we as a nation gain from this growth? Most people experience only the negative aspects of growth - the overcrowding and the strain and costs placed on all public services, for the gain of a limited number of employers and marketing moguls.

Mr Cable鈥檚 statement on the related link (on the same site as you posted) must be supported with further evidence:



鈥淚n one case, a UK company needed 500 specialist engineers but was given a quota of four, Mr Cable told the FT. And he said he had spoken to an entrepreneur who scrapped plans to open a factory and create 400 jobs in northern England after failing to secure visas for key staff鈥�

What engineering specialization and 鈥榢ey鈥� staff were required that was not catered for by our universities and training programmes; and what type of factory? Maybe a fluency in a foreign engineering language or a specialization such as will be 鈥榥eeded鈥� at the new halal-products factory?

Government plans to get benefits claimants into employment and scrap the thousands of public sector 鈥� new jobs鈥� (created in panic by the Labour government and filled mainly by immigrants) are expected to bring a massive increase in the unemployed. Scrapping the Alliance鈥檚 promise of capping immigration may divert some of the flack at the Lib Conference, but could be the last straw that would finally trigger the GBP to civil disobedience or worse.

flicks2 #63

Your link was quite interesting but offered no practical solutions to the problems of our world, then morphed into eco-fascist propaganda !

#63

I've watched a few fragments of the link, flick, and liked some of the images of nature but the rest is the old same stuff that's peddled here day in day out. I'd rather spend the time listening to music. Just doesn't grab me this sort of thing. Democracy is far from perfect in the Western world but this doesn't seem the way of changing the world.

Review

doesn't have a blog?

OMD - dad's dancing?

are you a dad, jaunty? if so, are you children in any way proud of you, if they know what you're up to, that is?

SITTING ON A FENCE

I鈥檝e heard of a man once
Who apparently used to like to sit on one
But fate would have it that it was all going to change
When challenge came into his range
Of thoughts as well as his acts and dealings
And it鈥檚 proving to be quite amazingly revealing
Into the psyche of this graduate from Oxford
That the world can no longer afford.
A solution might be for him to hide in a monastery.
But then he would not happy be in a place like this
With no girls nowhere to see.

mim

High Newsnight Team, i.e. those employed by the 大象传媒 itself

Just a note that due to the fact that my previous laptop got ruined by hackers, I've bought a new one which is also being hacked into. Now, I'm quite sure that some of the NN bloggers are doing this. For obvious reasons I shall not mention them here but it should be plainly clear who those bloggers are.

I'm trying to deal with it by having contacted my chosen Internet Security Firm but I thought that I might as well inform of you of the problems I'm faced with all the time, considering that I had contacted you before when having previous very serious difficulties.

Thank you for your attention, if you care that is

Monika

"Obama the Wall Sreet puppet running the show"

Webster Tapley :-



Brossen - Forget the "iffy" of climate warming

I agree the carbon tax is a scam. Its laughable to think anything like that could do anything about the Sun, Earth and maybe stars which are main controllers of the climate - its way way outside human control.

Peak oil is a certainty, what do you do for power then ?

All nuclear? with the paranoia of nuke fuel everywhere in the middle east ?

Vast areas of the Middle east and North Africa are very suitable for solar. Then there is geothermal.

ONLY ONE OIL PROBLEM - OIL MEN.

The people who control it are in no hurry to see a viable, non contentious alternative established. They will do down anything that is not polluting, inefficient, or decades away.

With cheap energy, and all that lovely Carbon in the atmosphere, we can synthesise any molecule we want, for products that are currently petroleum based. Micro algae are wonderful little chaps. With cheap energy, and all that lovely Oxygen, we can produce combustible gas or liquid to our heart's content.

No oil-man is going to let that happen. No politician is going to upset an oil man.

Nick'll fix it.

#73

When you say hot I do say cold
When you say cold I do say hot
How long is it supposed to go
This game of cats and dogs?
Not mentioning the mice and rats?
Prats!!
And then there is left and there is right.
How long is it supposed to go this 鈥榝ight鈥�?

#74

Oh yeah??

Some interesting thoughts from one of the amateurs shafting mainstream media :-

flicks @73
Nice to see someone on here checks out the real truth on the machinations of Govts and the banksters. Your reference to Webster Tarpley is a good sign that people are waking up. I'd almost given up on trying to get people away from the main stream media and check out the likes of Tarpley. I felt like a loner on here, with the exception of Barrie and a couple of others -including yourself - who is in the loop of actually knowing whats really going on; lone voices in the wilderness (well on here anyhow) are slowly getting heard over the noise of the idiots and the medicated.

Note to the producer of Newsnight: Can we have some real news please because this minced-up stuff that your serving ain't cutting it anymore buddy.
If it wasn't for Kirsty Wark I don't think I'd bother watchin anymore.

Jim Willi talks about Chinese and Arab billions going up agaisnt the London fractional reserve gold market
the LBMA :-







Get up to speed

This is how to shaft Fractional Reserve Banking - REMOVE

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"If it wasn't for Kirsty Wark I don't think I'd bother watchin anymore."

yes the most attractive women on TV

#78

Do not bother, then. I don't think they'll have sleepless nights over the loss.

#77

Did you have i'n mind Silvio Berlusconi here by any chance, f2?
He is loaded.

flicks: "yes the most attractive women on TV "

Well obviously not
but there's just something about the woman, thats all. I'm normally very picky and older women don't normally catch my eye, But hey, thats just me.

Mim. I see your still doing your scarecrow impersonation.
Why not fire off another email to Barry Obama and tell him what a wounderful job he's doing.

#82

I don't need to, kev
Whatever anybody says about Obama, I do think he is a great man and a great human being. And I do feel akin to his warmth and his subtle, direct and open sense of humour.

#83 addendum

I also think that his wife, Michelle, is an intelligent, caring and and a great woman.

#82

So you can see me, kev, or you mean it i'n a figurative sense?

So ladies and gentlemen of the jury..I rest my case.

Mim. I'm sure your a nice person. And because of that, i'm gonna send you cyber space good vibes and wish you wealth, health, happiness and the joy of finding - and keeping -a good man.

Tip. Not everyone is all they seem. On the surface he's nice, the oh so perfect man in everyway, but take a look around him. See who he associates with; who surrounds him. You may discovery that he's not what he first appeared..the nice fella could so easily be a tyrant. Obama is a place man, the front man who pushes the deeds who actually own him.
And who is that, that holds the strings of Obama?..well its non other than that well known bankster house, Goldman Sachs...and the other special interest groups that nudge him. but still he has you fooled... and all because he appears very nice. The gestapo and SS troops sometimes apeared nice when they helped the jews board trains to their deaths as well Mim. A little bit of research can go along way Mim..trust me on that. XX

#86

It's not a question of niceness, neither mine or Obama's. And how dare you even compare the current, democratically elected almost against all odds, President of the USA to Htler's Nazis? No, I do not trust you, 'weavsey'. Full stop.

Mim, how many bombs have the US dropped oh lets say since 1948? do you care to hazard a guess. How many millions have lost their lives due to 'US' interests. Do you know that statistic by any chance Mim? How many times has Obama said one thing but then done the opposite? We all know the Iraq war was illegal. No weapons of mass destruction but loads of mass deception, and that lie has us still in these places..why do you think that is? any ideas Mim? Well whatever, but as long as the thick masses buy into the lies, these tyrants will always get away with murder and genocide and spin it as a 'nesessary war'. Regardless who gets into power in the US (and their cousins in the UK) Its the money men who control heads of state. There is a perception amonsgt the ignorant masses that them over there across the pond and we have a choice at the ballot box and in some parts - due to certain policies that are implemented, that is so. But whether its the Repubs or the Democrats, Labour or Tory, the real power lies with corporations and the banksters, they are the ones who have the wealth, they are the ones who push the agenda, their agenda. But no! Obamam is such a nice man, he has a lovely wife and wonderful kids. Yeah well go and tell that to the family thats just been rocked with an american made missle, they'll appreciate your sentiments about the kind and lovely Man you call Obama. I'm sure that'll help take the sting out of the labourious job of gathering their loved ones scattered limbs.

Mim do you know what Obamas mother once did for a living?
I'll give you a clue. It involved a job in a bank...and she wasn't a teller. No she was futher up..go on a bit higher...higher still, nope your gonna need a ladder. Now, don't you see. If you can't see, may I suggest you carry on watching X factor and Come dine with me. And like they say, ignorance really is bliss eh

BOUGHT AND PAID FOR (#86)

Credit due guys. I said it from day one. Jaded Jean used to point a perceptive finger BEHIND Obama - REMEMBER? (Was that why JJ disappeared?) I just pointed at the debt he owed - for the pile of money on which he 'stood' to vacuously orate his way to the White House.

Ambitious men will PAY ANY PRICE. Our Nick sold his soul, and his supporters down the river. They are all the same. While politicians are pre-selected by political power, BEFORE THE PUNTERS GET TO VOTE, nothing will change.

Meanwhile, in Dave, WE HAVE GOT OURSELVES ANOTHER ONE.

SPOILPARTYGAMES

#88

G W Bush sent the American troupes to Iraq the second time to avenge his father.
Find somebody else to go to dinner with.

#89

Jj and perception? Whose perception?

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#91

The thing is, chemical singie, that no one realised what a devious and greedy i'n many ways jj really is. He does have a lot to answer for. A lot while remaining basically, i'n my view, a mere parrot blowing with the wind.

mim

The Battle of Britain (nice coverage Auntie,Tears are for bedtime)

Is it over Yet, No I am warming my self for A new one

Unions take note..Watch Me Strike

Which 'ones' of you are with Barclays?? Are you, kev? Jj is., I'm quite sure of that.

Remember Brown - "this crisis started in America"

The legalised fraud of Fractional Reserve Banking started in 1848 of course it was the English

"Foley v. Hill and Others, decided by the House of Lords in 1848, Lord Cottenham, repeating the reasoning of the previous cases, put it lucidly if astonishingly:

"The money placed in the custody of a banker is, to all intents and purposes, the money of the banker, to do with as he pleases; he is guilty of no breach of trust in employing it; he is not answerable to the principal if he puts it into jeopardy, if he engages in a hazardous speculation; he is not bound to keep it or deal with it as the property of his principal; but he is, of course, answerable for the amount, because he has contracted."

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And then we had the invention of incentivised destruction via Credit Default Swaps 1994/5 by Blythe Masters (Oxbridge) JP Morgan and also English

A real masterpiece of bomb-less warfare which serves as a after-burner or turbo charger on the road to deluded hell.
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I see Crick has been busy - no tattooed bottoms to view and tell us about Crick ?

#97

turbo charging? how amazing.
delusion? confusion? dreaming of a fusion
following a dinner at a table 01?
are you a gorilla or are you a man?

As a family consisting of an atheist father, a Catholic mother and an as-yet uncommitted teenager, we have to agree that any taxes that we may have contributed to the Papal Visit was money well spent 鈥� if any messages are heeded.

From the statement by one of the Cardinals - that arriving at Heathrow is like entering a third world country 鈥� to the Pope鈥檚 message that all is not well with our society, these were facts that needed saying, stripped of our usual political correctness, and were not overtly religious preaching.

As for the constant reminders by the media of abuse by catholic priests, which punctuated every bulletin and photo event, we should spend more time and effort examining and dealing with our own scandal of child abuse:

In 2007BP (when Baby Peter died) a total of 54 other children in England also died at the hands of their parents or other family members and in the decade from 1999 to 2009, 539 children had died in this way. Since 2008 the number of children coming into social services care has increased by 30%.

This link contains statistics for y/e 31/3/09 of referrals of children under 18, analysed by borough and type of abuse or neglect:-



The tables show that for England overall some 5% of children under 18 years of age are referred, with much higher levels in certain London boroughs. It would, of course, be considered politically incorrect to ask whether any breakdown is available of these figures (e.g. by ethnicity or parents married/single etc) is available as a means of further understanding the causes and possible solutions.

And, as a nation that is said to donate more to charities for animals than for children, perhaps we should be less tolerant (or apologetic) towards alien cultures that are trampling on our heritage and customs:-



鈥渋t must be sentient when its throat is cut, and the blood allowed to drip from the carcass while a religious phrase in praise of Allah is recited.鈥�

From the Pope鈥檚 visit we should learn to raise our collective voice in praise of some religious teachings and in protest at other aspects that do not fit our norms and beliefs.

WOULDN'T DO IT TO A DOG (#99)

"as a nation that is said to donate more to charities for animals than for children,"

We are also a nation that insists its 'un-dead' die slowly - VERY slowly with modern medicine - in ignominious distress, because of an irrational belief that 'life' (an illusion) is a gift from God (another illusion).

Where would the Pope stand on this issue IDG2? 'Pray' prolonged dying willl not be inflicted on you or yours.

As for me - I'll be a D O G thanks. They don't do G O D.