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Chameleon Politics.

Or .... 鈥淗ow to stay in the game whilst still using your bus pass!!鈥�


Sometimes the media gets it right and sometimes they don鈥檛.

Elect-Ed did his 鈥榯hing鈥� yesterday but still the media kept their eyes on the also ran(s).

Scoop!

Rejected heir apparent say鈥檚 something to 鈥楢lmost Top Dog鈥�

Quick! .... Get a lip-reader! What did they say? Is it juicy? Is it dissent? Has the back-stabbing started already?

鈥淗old the front page!鈥�

One wonders how many column inches were already being type-set? (N.B. Most of the 鈥榥ews鈥� sic these days seems to be reported before it occurs and forgotten immediately thereafter.)

The reality is that one person asked another - he sticking to his principles, as shown by his own lack of response - why she was applauding condemnation of an action she had herself supported.

She responded with the Conference mantra .... 鈥楤ack the Leader or it鈥檚 the wilderness!鈥�

She should have said ..... 鈥淚鈥檓 a politician.鈥�

The media completely failed to focussed on the inescapable fact that Ms Her-own-man was looking after Number One.

That is the real story!

(Sorry about this, but ....)


Foil Party Dames!


And ....

Post 鈥楲ip-gate鈥� will politicians get wise to unheard words being reported and start taking precautionary measures?

Perhaps wearing Burqas?

Maybe every story does have a silver lining .....

Surely ......

Not all HMP鈥檚 are telegenic!



And ....

It would appear that we are making great strides toward a fully homogenous society here in the UK ....

Nirvana is upon us!

According to reports .....

It鈥檚 something to do with increased consumption of Halal?

Jeremy did very well with a bolshy crowd last night, they are pretty reluctant to participate when instructed to do so by Jeremy, maybe they are overawed, but with annoying, over the top comments by Finglestein and on the previous night by Frazer Nelson it is a wonder they were so 'restrained' It could be that Jeremy has them shackled by their ankles......

BIZARRE REPORTING

That a doctor injected sreiously ill people improperly, is news of the Shipman variety - allegedly criminal. To present it as science news JUST BECAUSE HE INJECTED STEM CELLS is a nonsense.

NEW GENERATION NHS - FREE AT THE POINT OF 'EXPERIENCE'

Some ConDem guy, talking to Daily Politics' Anita, said they plan to put patients at the centre of the PATIENT EXPERIENCE.

Can the New Generation claptrap get any worse? Hard to tell where the facade ends and the farce begins.

Watching the demise of the Labour party is actually rather very sad. Can you show some mercy 大象传媒 and stop showing this now.. we are well passed the sick bag stage, its like watching the slow death of an old dog, a pet that was unpopular with the family -did'nt fit in, awkward on the lead, bad breath, an ugly mutt but we don't need to witness a long death...avert the cameras, send the Journos back to their unkempt desks..find another story. Cost a fortune in vet fees did that dog...拢trillions, had the look of Hattersley.

Obama says he's a Christian by choice (as oppossed to birth i suppose) maybe NN can do a story on the politically naive pretender president with training wheels...you know the fella, he goes by the name of Barry.

Mim. Why when you disagree with posters, you threaten them with the 'authorities'...thats how Hitler started. May I draw your attention to something called free speech. Maybe your ditties and comments are more suited for facebook, can I suggest you give that a try instead.

Can't wait to see Jeremy v Ed Miliband tonight :o)

at 1:

"Foil Party Dames!"

:)

#1

you're not getting away with what you're up to and that's a solid promise, 'red meat eater'

#8 addendum

your posts are getting barmier by the minute 'red meat eater'

Arianna has this on the front page of huffpost, as usual she is switched on to where importance and relevance is. I cant find any mention on the 大象传媒 save my own link from yesterday .

Just in case the 大象传媒 dont get it. The 'importance' is that the people who caused this hell should be held accountable. The 'relevance' is to everyone affected. A strong message needs to be sent to those in power about responsibility to the public.

#5

what if the 'old dog' is you? not a nice future for it then according to your own words

plus, what I'm up to is self-defence and fighting for justice, kev, etc..... ..

If David Miliband 'walks away' from front line politics, does that mean that he cares more for his pride and ego that he does his party and the people of the country he is meant to serve?

Or is having such high principles a good thing in politics?

Answers on a postage stamp to...........

Response to ....

At 1:45pm on 29 Sep 2010, mimpromptu

At 1:48pm on 29 Sep 2010, mimpromptu



Many thanks for the observation and opinion. Unfortunately you are little late coming to the podium as my 鈥榖etter half鈥� has been telling me the same for eons. Nonetheless the thoughts, and recognition, are much appreciated.

As a Photographer .....

....... taking an image that appeals to the subject is the penultimate aim.

But one step further is preferred.


As a human being ....

.... raising a smile 鈥榓int such a bad thing!

And if that begets the attribute of 鈥榖army鈥� ....

I can live with it!

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OK, now go and investigate the regulation and efficacy of 'psychotherapists'.

Whilst you're at it (and very much in the same vein), have a word with John Humphrys about doing a programme on what's really behind the education attainment gap, as it certainly isn't income. You could also bring Richard Dawkins on board to highlight how irrational ideas are now so prevalent despite solid research evidence which refutes them, as this is all getting way out of hand and shows no sin of abating.

Stripe live at 5!

The 大象传媒's doing its duty - yeah sure

/news/magazine-11428738

So invidious when you know, but I reckon the UK public are not stupid. They saw what happened last time and know the importance of saving for a rainy day and not getting into un-necessary debt . They know its not their fault, they now know not to trust banks and their spokes persons.

They know where the crime is.

10. At 2:05pm on 29 Sep 2010, flicks2 wrote:

"Just in case the 大象传媒 dont get it. The 'importance' is that the people who caused this hell should be held accountable. The 'relevance' is to everyone affected. A strong message needs to be sent to those in power about responsibility to the public."

Who do you have in mind? The 'regulators'? You seem to need reminding, that the Con-Dem coalition is even more to the right (anarchistic) than New Labour were, that's presumably why the police have been saying that there's trouble on the streets.

Instead of appeals to the effect that someone should be in charge (a bit like freedom loving Mimpromptu and her peculiarly self-contradictory threats to report miscreants who advise her what to do and not do to 'the authorities') why don't you stand back, take on board some of what's been explained to you, and start thinking about it all a little, because elsewhere, it seems from what you post, that you too don't much like the nasty regulators who tried to sort this sort of problem out in the 1930s.

You can't have it both ways flicks2.

Why not just try doing as you're told to see how it fares, or alternatively, reflecting a little more upon the general consequences of lots of people behaving just like you do?

(That's called a double-bind)

Interview with Ben Davies on currency wars :-



two thirds in -

"fiat currency systems dont work because they are based on a fractional reserve banking system where govts are allowed to create inordinate amount of debt and ultimately the pied piper comes a piping and you cant pay back your debt. People loose faith in the construct of govt and as a consequence they loose faith in fiat money"

Ben Davies

With more quotes from Warren Buffett's father in the interview

AS SURELY AS WATER RUNS DOWN HILL THE NEEDY FLOW TOWARDS THEIR (PERCEIVED) SALVATION (#12)

I see Miliband D walking TOWARDS an alternative supply of status/adulation/'legacy' rather than away from politics. You might call it 'Doing a Tony'.

The two Milibands are clearly DRIVEN (one said to have joined labour at 17 to make the world better). Blair and Brown - similarly driven. Party selection committees can smell NEED and associated DRIVE/AMBITION right across the locality. These are standard Westminster fodder.

Unfortunately, there is no Sea of Fulfilment. The needy flow on for ever, in neediness, unless they gain wisdom. Only then might they choose to look: not just at their need, BUT THE CAUSES OF NEED. Eh Tony?

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DIPLOMACY AND POLITICS - LIVING WITHIN THE LIE

Much discussion of Miliband D's dignified demeanour on losing. Like he would throw a tantrum? That's not what politicians do (with the odd exception).

It has been said that diplomacy is 'Lying abroad for your country' - might politics be 'Lying at home for your personal gain'? Lying can, of course, be passive. I couldn't possibly comment.

#16

My threats are rarely empty and so I've done it, reported that is.
You should have realised by now, 'educating piece of furniture', that I do not take instructions but am quite happy to take advice from people I respect and basically trust which leaves me, indeed, with the option of freedom of choice and appreciate if this works in the reverse direction as well.

mim

P.S. I've just received a lovely photostream of quite a few snapshots of the Highgrove Gardens. I myself take lots of photos in this vein so am quite pleased to have received the pictures of the Highgrove House, trees, sculptures and even bright pink flowers.

#21 addendum

While Barack Obama, or his office anyway, sent me at 15.00 a lovely photo of the President greeating most warmly and with a big smile a lady in her sixties of seventies in a cafe. I like that sort of 'thing'.

WOW! D FOR DISSEMBLER!

Miliband D was visibly incandescent, and unable to contain himself (though he tried) when Harriet's clapping of Ed's betrayal, got his goat.

NOW DAVID MILIBAND HAS THE SHEAR GALL TO PORTRAY IT AS "RAISING A WRY EYEBROW".

Fool of Knave. FOOL OR KNAVE.

Do we REALLY want individuals of this nature governing us? We have had Expensesgate, high time for PERSONALITYGATE. Let's expose the sort of mentality that is BEING CHOSEN FOR US, subsequently allowing only a secondary choice at General Elections.

Democracy - what democracy?

#13

If you consider my posts to you as recognition then you're obviously fooling no one else but yourself, and perhaps singie. 'Funninly' enough, I've thought that of you for absolute yonks.

A smile for you? Only an ironic one, if ever. Feel free to call it a smile of a witch if you wish.

Struck off doctors:- What about journalists? Seriously, things are really getting very bad if a 大象传媒 journalist can ask questions like this:

"What has the theory of evolution done for the practical benefit of humanity? It鈥檚 helped our [basic] understanding of ourselves, yet compared to, say, the discovery of penicillin or the invention of the World Wide Web, I wonder why Darwin occupies this position at the pinnacle of esteem. I can only imagine he has been put there by a vast public relations exercise."


dennis-sewell

Remember this if and when you ever read the Spectator article by the same author (cited by Mistress76uk), as what's written is spun in a most appalling way. He not only misrepresents the facts, he denies the very basis of biology and, effectively, modern farming. Is he one of those Animal Liberation anarchists?



20. At 4:48pm on 29 Sep 2010, barriesingleton wrote:
DIPLOMACY AND POLITICS - LIVING WITHIN THE LIE

"It has been said that diplomacy is 'Lying abroad for your country' - might politics be 'Lying at home for your personal gain'? Lying can, of course, be passive. I couldn't possibly comment."

Is this masochistic self-therapy? Is ignorance (or saying what one thinks without actively trying to find out the truth of the matter) distinguishable from lying? I suggest it is once the truth has been clearly pointed out and referenced, but the offender chooses to ignore it. It's also why so many PDs are untreatable.


21. At 5:10pm on 29 Sep 2010, mimpromptu wrote:
#16

My threats are rarely empty and so I've done it, reported that is.
You should have realised by now, 'educating piece of furniture', that I do not take instructions but am quite happy to take advice from people I respect and basically trust which leaves me, indeed, with the option of freedom of choice and appreciate if this works in the reverse direction as well."

For what it's worth, I'll enlighten you. You (and there are many like
you) take from all around you without ever explicitly acknowledging that you do so as that would deflate your grandiosity.
Whenever that's pointed out however you'll deny it because you aren't aware of your own behaviour or its consequences. That's the function of grandiosity - it's a self-esteem shield. In your cage it locks you in a bubble or cage.

For a positive role model of someone who isn't, see ecolizzy.

Questions:

1) Are the French going to be found to be in breach of article 19 of the EU Charter of Human Rights?

2) Is this a Test Case?

3) If ' member states' can't get rid of groups which won't assimilate how is that not settlement/colonization?

4) Is the EU favouring survival of the fastest breeders and sharpest business practitioners?

Article 19
Protection in the event of removal, expulsion or extradition

1. Collective expulsions are prohibited.
2. No one may be removed, expelled or extradited to a State where there is a serious risk that he or she would be subjected to the death penalty, torture or other inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."

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24. At 5:43pm on 29 Sep 2010, mimpromptu

Thanks - again - for the recognition!

Rhetorically .... Which Witch?



Sadly my 15 minutes has now drained away!



Cut to the Test Card!


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"23. At 5:20pm on 29 Sep 2010, barriesingleton wrote:
WOW! D FOR DISSEMBLER!

Do we REALLY want individuals of this nature governing us? We have had Expensesgate, high time for PERSONALITYGATE. Let's expose the sort of mentality that is BEING CHOSEN FOR US, subsequently allowing only a secondary choice at General Elections. "

Do you really think that our public figures should be selected for their PR acumen and personality rather than their abilities?

What I objected to about David Miliband was his role in Lisbon Treaty and the Middle East. Why do you persist in judging people by criteria which are clearly irrelevant to the job? You seem to be obsessed wit the . Do you know why?

24. At 5:43pm on 29 Sep 2010, mimpromptu wrote:

"A smile for you? Only an ironic one, if ever. Feel free to call it a smile of a witch if you wish"

Do you like cooking? Are your ditties spells?



What is it with women and witchcraft as they age? We still have them today. They don't really have powers (except to be very annoying) and we are not allowed to dunk or burn them anymore (which is a good thing),.
As they don't like taking Haloperidol what do you think should be done for them? They can get pretty nasty (hence the dunking etc), and this intolerance goes way back across all cultures I understand:



Are you an expert? Is Katie Price a witch? How about Emily Maitlis? Is that why you go to the 大象传媒?

Think about 26 - as you read the 53 articles one can see how they could be cleverly legally contrived to render a welfare state, (statism) as envisaged by the Fabians (which includes the Soviet, 1930s German and current Chinese model of socialism) practically impossible to implement and sustain. Where's the political freedom in that? It's an Austrian School model which makes Libertarianism (the free-market) mandatory is it not?

26. At 6:32pm on 29 Sep 2010, tabblenabble01 wrote:

C4 News have just reported that the EU has stated that no prosecution of France will now take place.

In these 'enlightened' times the story will no doubt be on the 大象传媒 website shortly.

#25

But Ecolizzy keeps moaning most of the time. How positive is it? Why don't you team up with her and leave me alone? What am I to you? Anyway, the reports are now in quite a few hands and it's far too late for you to even attempt to give me further 'instructions'. You're doing yourself immeasurable harm, table.

Do I feel grand? The answer is yes and no.

#26

Are you in Paris, table?

#33 addendum

I haven't reported on you to France though I should imagine they are aware of what's going on and that includes Sarko and the journalists at Europe1.

"Political editor Michael Crick will asking what this means for Ed Miliband, and looking at David Miliband's life in politics"

I fail to understand this constant backward looking naval gazing. What value is it, other than to keep a raft of 'political editors' in work and on our screens.

Surely, the 'media frenzy' that Miliband D's situation and decision has aroused is ONE of the reasons the poor man would be damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. I don't blame him for choosing what's best for him and his family at this stage of the game.

In full and certain knowledge that I am mixing more than just my metaphors, we will doubtless live eat and breathe the saga of the 'Mili Band of Blood Spattered Brothers' for some time to come.

I bet the coalition are rubbing their hands behind closed doors. The media long ago ceased to report politics, now it shapes and manipulates it.

Even this morning many news reports opened with the words "later today Ed Miliband will say.........."

I would love an opportunity to have some fun with that sort of reporting one day.

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NO FUN LEFT ELSIE - NEWSNIGHT USED IT ALL UP (#36)

I just tried 'backward-looking navel-gazing'. You will be hearing from my lawyers - and my Chiropracter.

Love the 'blood brother' morphing.

Why Brown should be joining Iceland's former PM in the dock



Maybe he should be made an example of...as a warning to NEW GENERATION wannabees?

#38

If he can still hear by the time your lawyers get in touch with him, singie.

36. At 8:44pm on 29 Sep 2010, LC2 wrote:

"I fail to understand this constant backward looking naval gazing. What value is it, other than to keep a raft of 'political editors' in work and on our screens."

Exactly, when Labour had the policies of Beveridge and the Fabians we all knew what they stood for, now, it's all just hot air so nothing gets in the way of the markets basically. All these reporters do these days is a higher form of OK,/HELLO type of reporting, mainly for women and other people who have no substantive interest in politics. They all seem to think that everyone else is doing this, that excuses them doing the same when the reality is that as they don't ever do their jobs, we just get anarchistic politics whilst they get well paid! They collude.

"33. At 7:41pm on 29 Sep 2010, mimpromptu wrote:

But Ecolizzy keeps moaning most of the time. How positive is it?"

It's positive. She cares about her family and country. Many of us here like that. She doesn't think what is happening should be happening, and neither do many others. It's as if Russia or East Germany 40 years ago suddenly had a load of freeloaders with mega-entitlement issues turn up to their welfare state demanding their 'human rights' e.g. housing, feeding etc when they hadn't contributed anything and had no intention of doing so in the future either. That is just taking and not seeing what's wrong with it.

The things is, felling from somewhere where that doesn't happen, doesn't entitle you to asylum where people have worked to build a welfare state, but you try telling the peculiar people who concocted the Lisbon Treaty that. I bet you many of their families fled from Poland etc at one time too..

Absolutely loved Jeremy's interview with Ed Miliband tonight :p I can't believe he actually took a rubix cube with him in his pocket to see if Ed could still solve it in 90 seconds. Hillarious discussion with Michael too on David Miliband's flowery shirt.

THE ATTACK DOG THAT DIDN'T BARK

Why did Paxo not ask Limited Ed how he feels about not really being the popular first choice - rather, winning on a technicality?

If Ed is this altruistic man of scruple, he should be pretty cut up about it, especially as the first choice was David.

In passing, how does he achieve that Shami Chakrabarti look round the eyes? Not make-up surely? Organ failure? And why does he look like a Botox ad?

#42

I'm not at all different from Ecolizzy in caring about my own family but I do have a couple of countries that I call my countries which makes it much more complicated for me. And, to complicate things further, I also care passionately about my real friends' families. Besides, Ecolizzy and I, have quite divergent ways of showing our care.

Re: role models? I've had quite a few within my family already, thank you.

#43

Mistress76uk

Jeremy taking out a rubik's cube out of one of his pockets was a bit of a surprise but only a bit as he might have had it lying somewhere around the house.

What I liked about Ed's responses to the questions about the arrangement of his personal life, as well as to most of the other questions, was straighforwardness and lack of hypocricy.

For example, people get married because that's what's expected from them but either live with a constant lie with each other, deception or as cats and dogs with complete lack of respect for each other and as a consequence, if they have children, making their kids' life a misery. From what Ed said he considers his partner as part of his family which a piece of paper cannot possibly 'instruct' one to 'feel'.

Was amused by Paxman's reference to Ed Milliband completing a Rubik's cube with one hand in 90 seconds. The statement implying that by doing so he is a highly intelligent, capable person.

So the three-year-old Chinese girl who solved it (admittedly with two hands) in 114 seconds, could be a contender for the Labour party leadership in the not too distant future.



Be interesting to see if he can unjumble the Labour party as rapidly.

Note David is staying on as an MP. Well, you wouldn't throw it all away in a strop, just in case there's a little opening in top government down the road. If brother Ed doesn't fare so well, he might need another Rubik's cube hand to solve the problem.

Credit to Dave where it's due though. Mandelson didn't have to worry about pesky constituents in order to return to power. Democracy is such a wonderful idea.

44. At 11:42pm on 29 Sep 2010, barriesingleton wrote:

'In passing, how does he achieve that Shami Chakrabarti look round the eyes? Not make-up surely? Organ failure? And why does he look like a Botox ad?'

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He does look a bit Dracula-ish/vampire-ish.

Remember Anne Widdecombe (aka Doris Karloff) commenting about Michael Howard that 'there was something of the night about him'?

I seem to remember Howard giving a speech about his humble immigrant background somewhile ago in the not-to-distant past.

It must be a NEW GENERATION thing, I guess it's in the genes!

THE ATTACK DOG THAT DIDN'T BARK (#44)

I happen to like Shami Chakrabarti. Now all I'll have is visions of Ed Milliband's eyes next time I see her! Oh cruel world...

#47

I'm certain, however, that Mandelson is getting more and more worried, mrpdonotbesosure. I've seen it recently in his face.

The whole TRUTH is now known and it's only a question of how to go about revealing it to the world black on white fashion.

#48

do you add insult to your make-up, or do you wash your jeans in it?

Ron Paul on Fox news:-



devaluation -

"to me its wicked, people are being cheated"

'Govts cheat, you cant trust them'

Talking of dogs, singie:

/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-11435149

Mysterious, isn't it?

68 tabblenabble01 from Tuesday

Who was talking about politics? I was referring to David Miliband`s own political future. If you want to talk about policy, well too bad for you. If you had paid attention to this week`s Labour conference instead of ranting on and on with endless uninteresting comments on this blog, you would have realized that this year`s Labour conference was anything but new policies.

In contrast to your narrow definition of politics, I think it is precisely moments like this that make (or break) a potential future leader. He had a judgment to make, an important one that for sure is going to change the rest of his life for better or for worse, we don`t know. As much as all of us wish to sail through life`s tides and waves with minimum disruption, we all face moments like this. So yes, I wanted to show my support to David Miliband by leaving a comment.

Btw, one of the distinct attributes of men with low intelligence is their deep rooted illusion that all women are stupid. This is the 21st century my dear, get out of your nutshell and open your eyes.

#53

I'm afraid, flick, I do not have the time to read your link as I'm rather preoccupied by taking part in building the empire of the heart and commonwealth of souls.

THE PARASITES ARE THREATENING TO LEAVE

Banks could leave Europe over regulation, warns Goldman Sachs chief Lloyd Blankfein


Lloyd Blankfein, the Goldman Sachs chief executive, has warned that banks could relocate some of their operations out of Europe if regulation becomes too onerous.


We can only pray.

"Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs today said, 鈥淥perations can be moved globally and capital can be accessed globally,鈥� he told the panel. 鈥淚t鈥檚 not arbitrage to thwart [regulation]. It鈥檚 about a need to compete with rivals."

Ref -

and because of this -

"China is the major international power blocking a global solution to the offshore bank and secrecy problem. It is doing so because of its own secrecy jurisdiction, Hong Kong, says Jos茅 Manuel Barroso, the president of the European Commission.
Barroso told me this privately at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York last week."


Ref -

The problem with dealing with the banks.


"and capital can be accessed globally" as Max Keiser says - " [i.e., America's savings and pension accounts]"

Just seen 57 got there before me, please excuse that.

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"Btw, one of the distinct attributes of men with low intelligence is their deep rooted illusion that all women are stupid. This is the 21st century my dear, get out of your nutshell and open your eyes."

Thanks for the view. What do you make of this below (note, not ALL women, but more women, and its a lot more in fact. Most bright women actually agree with what I say for the record): For some reason, most women just don't get it, or know their place. Can you suggest why that might be the case? It's a serious question, with no disrespect meant.

57. At 09:32am on 30 Sep 2010, DebtJuggler wrote:

"We can only pray".

Ok...but...more practically, we have a major problem, which is that given that so much of our neo-liberal economies have been built upon financial services (money-lenders) and all that hang onto them and suport their clientelle (celebritism, narcissism etc), what will the liberal-democracies do for a living? This is very practical question about productive jobs and essentials (food etc). If you look at some of the hissy-fits which are elicited in response any radical efforts to point out this unpalatable truth, it's very hard to see how we can ever get onto the first rung to talk about this matter, never mind climb out of this self-made mess. From what I can see looking at the data on skills, females are most of the problem, as like children most of them just want to have fun in the very short-term. They are not on the whole, builders (see course and profession choices, and even where this rule is broken, they tend to leave when pregnant after which their priorities change). Too many men are frightened to incur their displeasure even though women are killing their economies and birth-rates.

Meanwhile, in other political systems, this does not happen, by law.

Much of what I have to say on this matter is really about the nature of human diversity which has to be actively managed by the state. Just one SEN disorder below (more activity disorder in males and attention deficit in females) is 1/20 kids/people - i.e. nearly one in each state school class. With Special Schools being merged with normal schools, and a policy of SEN inclusiveness, it's more subversion of state education, although many won't see this, and will blame 'bad teaching/parenting out of ignorance. Note, sadly, psychopathy/anti-social behaviour is a 'medical condition' too. Most people reading this will not be able to think through this matter more widely. None of the research is new, except perhaps the identification of specific genes.

/news/health-11440660

There is a lot more to this issue than meets the eyes of most of us, and in all our communitarian best interests, I think we all need to face up to this wherever we fall in the range given that diversity is a fact of life. This has been said by many, I know, but it just falls on deaf ears. Those who watched John Humphrys on 大象传媒2 on education and opportunity the other night should bear this in mind, as we seem to be doing a lot of harm by trying to be fair. Just look at the economy. Much of what is being said here explains why it's happening

Was Procrustes fair:?

#61

you're lucky then that most bright women agree with you but I don't think I shall be apologising to you for being dim, stupid, not with it and, above all, silly. It can't be helped, I must have been born the wrong way although it was a very cold but a very bright and shiny Sunday in Warsaw on 20 March 1954.

"The pressure we have been under since the crisis started shows more clearly than ever that, as the famous saying goes, 'there is no such thing as a free lunch.' There is also no such thing as a free deficit."

/news/business-11431963

'there is no such thing as a free lunch.'

Yes there is for banks Mr Barroso as you well know, its called: fractional reserve banking.

Address that because you cant crack down on debt unless you deal with the concept of money creation as and from debt and the incentive there-in. Until you do, you and all like you are just blabbing.

Blab away, it wont make any difference to the public suffering and wealth removal.

Milliband D stated that he needs to re-charge his batteries and spend more time with his family. This tell us 2 things.

1. He is so exhausted that he would have been unable to carry out the function of party leader.

2. He remains clamped to the tax payers teat with his 65k MP's salary plus expenses whilst confirming that the job of an MP affords him much time for rest.

52. At 03:46am on 30 Sep 2010, flicks2 wrote:
Ron Paul on Fox news:-

devaluation -

"to me its wicked, people are being cheated"

'Govts cheat, you cant trust them' "

Let me ask you a critical question: are you a supporter of the Austrian School of economics? (note: this was the way that the LSE went after the war but not the way that Britain went).

As I see it, interest rates are low to try to encourage people to spend.
This is designed to free money into the economy which is really already part of the economy just saved (savings earning little, and equities are an alternative to bonds or savings - equities are supposed to be investments in business). If this worked, money would not have to be printed (QE, QE2 etc, which is a bad thing as this devalues the currency by increasing the money supply). To make governance work one needs a state and one needs regulation. The Austrian School however, are emigre anarchists. They don't think government is good for an economy.
How does your buying gold help the economy? Surely it just helps individuals, which some would say is why we are in this mess.

If people could see how narcissistic individualism operated to destroy people's collective interests there would not be such a treatment problem. The big problem with these people is that they don't think they have a problem. The real problem is that those who are victims to this, can't see it. It's actually the problem. Muslims have a term for this which is very much like 'false consciousness' or alienation. Do you know what that term is? I'm sure you'll be able to find it if you Google for it. Might this be what the 'war on terror' was against, i.e to preserve the Austrian School dogma of business cycles (boom-bust) and thus the minority which does well from it? If I and others are right it's a self-selecting nepotistic club, an elite. Read the book by Herrnstein and Murray (1994) as it expands upon an idea by Michael Young's back in 1958, which had its roots in 'Family and Kinship in East London' which in turn was undertaken to see how the 1945 Labour Party pledges were faring (see Young's comments on the last edition of F&KIEL, and see his comments on Blair in the Guardian shortly before Young died).

"64. At 11:00am on 30 Sep 2010, mimpromptu wrote:
#61

you're lucky then that most bright women agree with you but I don't think I shall be apologising to you for being dim,"

I don't think you fully understand. Nobody has to apologise for being as they are as they have no choice in the matter, but they do have to accept the consequences of their behaviours and thus their place in the world. It is only anarchists who would have it any other way, and my point is generally to drive home the point that anarchists are not freedom-fighters in the way that some would have many believe, they are just out to take advantage of the vulnerable. If you read some of the references which I've suggested (e.g. Michael Young) you'll hopefully come to see what communitarians believe in contrast to Libertarians. For the record, I'm not suggesting that you are 'dim', just very misguided.

I may be wrong on that score, I hope not.

#62 tabernacle01

James threw a hissy-fit on radio 4 this morning re ADHD (second link below)

Sales of the full Beveridge report topped 100,000 within a month, and reached 600,000 after a shortened summary was produced. (No official report outsold it until the Denning report into the Profumo scandal 20 years later.) It was translated into 22 languages, sold to the United States, circulated to the troops, and dropped over Nazi-occupied Europe.

At the end of the war, a summary of it was found in Hitler's bunker, a commentary noting that it was 'no botch-up . . . superior to the current German social insurance in almost all points"

From a 1994 article -


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This really was British National Socialism (Fabianism) in the making, Can everyone see why some ('Gremlins') would have been understandably highly motivated to thwart this? Can everyone see what the cost of that is today? Can everyone see the consequences? The inequalities? The elitist nepotism protected by Rawls' Difference principle and Human Rights? I'm suggesting that some never see these adverse consequences because their entire world-view is premised upon a basic solipsistic error, and this by its very modus operandi is incorrigible (or so the research would have us believe).

#68

consequences, you say?

vice versa

Re: my female role models

I hope The Queen does not get offended but she has become in some ways a role model for me as well as Catherine Deneuve and Jeanne Moreau in other ways. There are also other actresses that I appreciate for al kinds of reasons as well as quite a few interesting and lovely women who are not famous.

He's best avoided as you can tell by his highly emotional (HPA-Axis stress, probably genetic high risk) response which reveals that he feels threatened (as he should as he should be learning). He just doesn't understand this research, and like most in his line (clinical psychology is a wasteland in term of therapeutic efficacy) clearly has environmental snake-oil to peddle for a living as shown by your links.

Sadly, the media doesn't generally understand science much either, especially when it comes to quantitative and molecular genetics, so journalists ask child like questions having no idea how to properly phrase what they ask (as one would expect from people without the training). At the same time, researchers struggle to teach years of training in a sound bite which is almost impossible. The psychiatrist in the clip did a pretty good job under difficult circumstances and didn't put a word wrong. What tends to happen is that this research proceeds by initially vague behavioural classification (earlier versions of DSM-IV/ICD-10) which through research is further refined to new classification systems (see DSM-V for the Personality Disorders for example) in conjunction with research into genetic CNVs, SNIPs, VTRs etc.

In time the bits start coming together. That's science, and there's a long way to go which is limited by major methodological impediments which do not mean that 'it's all environmental' - just that measurement of 25,000 genes and their combinations and polymorphisms is mathematically 'hard'. The snake-oilers are best left out in the wilderness if they won't follow. I suggest he defines himself as one by such behaviour, and I cringe each time I see or hear him called upon to give his two pence worth. Could do better.

tn01

thanks

"And we have a beautiful film in which Tim Whewell follows a former British civil servant as he returns to the part of Nigeria he was responsible for at the time of independence 50 years ago."

Excellent.

Nigeria. Sigh. Look up how its population has grown since 1950 compared to that of the UK. Or see Pakistan, Bangladesh over the same period since their independence. Why? That's a profound question. We see and hear their problems, and we sympathise too, but say our own population had grown at the same rate, and in the same sectors as theirs. What would life be like here? We need to put these problems and possible solutions in perspective