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Instead of light entertainment "journalism" why don`t NN start the first global internet revolution and wage war on FIRST world debt?

Why should we fight wars for global capitalism at our expense using money borrowed from the moneylenders whom the wars are protecting?

And let`s make a deal with Islam that we will stop interfering in their lands if they will do the same for us?

Let`s have a full scale "war cabinet" that ignores party politics and examines whether we can do an Iceland and walk away from our debts.

And can we have someone other than Irwin Stelzer and the usual global capitalist suspects to discuss the idea seriously please?

Britain for sale!

We're not even waiting for the IMF to hold us over a barrel, the raping of the UK state is taking place with Gvt complicity.

Cui bono?

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Other have also been warning of the symptoms: "We're going to see now are mega privatisations (aka asset stripping) of the public sector (not just jobs but assets like land) forced upon Ireland and Greece by the IMF"

Michael Hudson: "Bank lobbyists know that the financial game is over. They are playing for the short run. The financial sector's aim is to take as much bailout money as it can and run, with large enough annual bonuses to lord it over the rest of society after the Clean Slate finally arrives."

The underlying strategy around all this: Sell freedom, Buy control

There is an alternative to austerity (covert control), and it is the route that Iceland took after the crisis. They were blackmailed by the EU & IMF but told them to stick it. Informed democracy lives on in that small enclave.

Funny how no-one likes to talk about Iceland these days....

Why did NN bother with the uncertain sex runner. So she's a bit butch. Too much testosterone in her system prior to her birth, thats all that is. The interviewer of this report -who was very much a woman, with her shoes and skirt - did'nt half go around the block with her questions. It was a painful interview to witness. This was one report that should've been binned. Scrambling around for stories and letting a duffer report get aired is gonna happen from time to time..very unbecoming of you Newsnight though. Message to Ed..don't let that happen again buddy and remember, jobs are scarce -thanks to Labours mismanagement of the country, so don't mess up again.

#2 best post I've seen in ages!

My German friend is quite happy; he spread bets on the quarterly growth figures of the uk and typed into his gizmo a minus sign in front of 0.5 instead of a plus. At a thousand e per point it's not bad for a bit too much kirsch.

Anyway, just as he made his fortunate mistake, so Rainer is convinced that it is an official typo, i.e. should be +0.5% and is preparing to place on q1 figs accordingly.

What's not to like?

The National Trust or the Scottish/Welsh National Trusts would be much better custodians of our woodland than governments and civil servants. But are you sure that this idea/proposal can be described as a concrete "plan" rather than just a proposal? And what qualifications does Katherine Hamnett have for discussing the pros and cons of the issue - unless you are just looking for an emotive response to a scare story instead of a serious debate.

"Terrorism" For the past two days the ´óÏó´«Ã½ has wheeled out Bob Quick, the man who considered Damian Green MP to be a threat to national security, as the arbiter of control orders. You should get him on. I'm sure he'll suit your purposes.

The World Service cuts. The dumbed down World Service has degenerated into pop songs and left wing propaganda. Any concerns about its value to the UK are immediately dispelled by the sound of its most vociferous supporters - Denis McShane, Barry Sheerman and Mark Damazer?

1..Has got to be the BEST post of all time...eh DJ?!

So I have finally read all of Mork?'s suggested links and am utterly convinced that the New Statesman has not changed one iota since the Seventies; full of concerned right-on upper middle class types who worry about "the poor"; these are the same ones who sit on the Labour benches and decry the Bullingdon members; they of course belonged to the Student Labour Club ; right on!

Does the young jewish dentist get the poor any more than Dave'n'Cleggers?

Don't fink so.

Who are "the poor" anyway?

Barrie; I'm so sorry but it's all a bit too simplistic for me; you have mentioned before about your experiences with the NHS; what would it look like in your picture of the future?
Methinks you've od'ed on Lark Rise to Candleford; everything went awfully well back then.

8..Barrie wouldn`t have the vote in the 1800`s Kashi...though he might have been decorated for trying to quell the Indian Mutiny by way of small consolation.

After many years as a social worker I concluded that the traditional starving poor had gone out of fashion and grown fat ...and were in other ways impoverished...poor housing...rubbish job prospects...single parenthood..etc

Yes..I did at one time read NS and mixed far too much with the "right-on-left" clowns who droned on endlessly about the underpriveleged underclass while doing b all about it.(I was guilty of it myself for a long time.)

Most of the right-oners later came under the influence of the liberal religion we know as "immigration,asylum and human rights activism" after which the white British underclass were a distinct impediment to importing really poor folk from around the world and enjoying the added bonus of bullying anyone who complained about it with accusations of inhumanity and racism.

Those Afghan coats are now long gone...but the smell of humbug and bs lingers on!

WHERE DID THE GOALPOST GO? (#8)

Well Kashi - at least you are sorry.

What next - fox hunting?

I DIDN'T AGREE WITH NICK BUT DID VOTE L/D (#9)

I had not been motivated to vote for decades (and could not register abstention) so never went near a polling booth.

Last year, I tactically voted LibDem, but the Conservatives tactically distributed the 'liar flyer' - no contest. Our Tory MP massively increased his majority. Can a political party be sent to prison? Watch this space.

'THINKING ALLOWED' (Radio 4) WORTH A LISTEN

Inevitable incompetence of politicians.

It's just a game to them.

why bbc staff worked up about the sackings? The talent keep boasting they could earn twice as much in the private sector?

13 They aren`t ´óÏó´«Ã½ jobs really..it`s directly government funded......the World Service is a gentle form of western propoganda ....and it and "our" ´óÏó´«Ã½`s Iranian TV service have a distinct job to do selling western ideas and undermining other supposedly inferior cultures.

It`s a sort of up market British Voice of America...and however well intentioned it is I strongly resent taxpayer`s money going towards it because it creates a dangerous gulf between us and the rest of the world`s elites.

Just imagine having a modern version of Germany Calling constantly criticising your culture and politics.

SPOIL GLOBAL IMPERIALIST GAMES

6 The National Trust

no it wouldn't. i lived in a village run by the NT. They are terrible.

15

yes i know people say that but the govt has no money. all bbc jobs are funded by the taxpayer.

given the privatisations one might wonder why world service was not put out to tender to cut costs?

Peter Sissons whistle blows the sickness..nay the mental illness which is wide spread at the ´óÏó´«Ã½. He's in the Daily Mail all week. Sissons mentions Newsnights Science editor and climate change as an example of the illness that ´óÏó´«Ã½ hacks and jobsworths suffer from.



Will Newsnight be covering Barry Obama's state of the Union speech?
I hear that any future president must produce their birth cetificate first prior to running for the job. So Obama is gonna be a one term pressy then eh.

What's the current betting that the alleged privatisation of the Forestry Commission will turn into some massive eco-fascist appeasing " carbon offset " scam ?

#7 It wasn't bad!

(5 bonus points for mentioning that sadistic hypocrite Stelzer)

'Here's Emily with news of how tonight's programme is looking at 1700:
The off-mic rule:...

And what to make of the move to fire people for the things they say off-mic?

Hell, there'd be nothing left of the ´óÏó´«Ã½...'

Well, certain parts. Depending. So maybe it's not so much what sex you are, as other factors?



Naming no names.

Thank the Gods for Steve Smith.. Jazz, art and Bainbridge. 6 minutes of surprise and brill.
Brilliant!

I posted a link on Facebook about the woodlands being sold recently, and a friend suggested that we all buy a tree and then the woods belong to everyone. My response was that we already do. The war is costing a bomb and the banks lost our money. We had no choice about bailing them out (lending it all to them again), but now hardly anyone can get a loan despite the banks owing everyone, taxes have gone up, the cost of living has gone up, our services are being cut and assets sold off. How many times are we expected to pay for the mistakes of our politicians and bankers?

Was Theresa May's colourful jacket a clever distraction from the discussion relating to Control Orders? The fact remains that Control Orders are Britain's Guantanamo. The only difference is that the confinment is mainly in the suspects home and orange boiler suits are not required to be worn.

17 It can`t be privatised for much the same reason the ´óÏó´«Ã½ itself can`t be privatised....because however wasteful and enormous it gets there is a degree of political control over it by the executive and the wider liberal establishment..and just think how much patronage it dishes out to the cronocracy of opinion formers in society and how much influence it has over our politics and public opinion.

Though the ´óÏó´«Ã½ would strenuously deny it ...and make great play of being critical of government ....really it`s as neo-liberal and americophile as our politicians ...and the financial sector that allegedly keep our economy going.

What sane politician is going to hand all that power to an oligarch?

The Secretary of State seems to think there is a problem with the FC being both regulator and the main timber supplier in England, yet it was a Tory Govt that set up Forest Enterprise and gave it agency status, which caused the split in the first place.

…also mentions selling off FC land to private companies in order to secure timber supply….what is that all about? We are constantly reminded that FC woodlands constitute 18% of the total in England, yet they provide 50% of the home grown timber. 5yr timber forecasts are published by the FC to enable forward business planning by harvesting companies and sawmills.

If it ‘aint broke…..

Watching Newsnight tonight I wondered how much more interesting it would be to have a London taxi driver interviewing Theresa May. No disrespects to Emily's interview style and incisive mind, but it all does become a bit formula. The 'intellectual' parrying from similar educational stratas.

Of course it could never happen, a taxi driver and his class are far more suited to being made fools of in reality TV shows. Keep the distance.

We've come a long way in the 21st century.

26 No HAL.....if it ain`t broke now ....cream off a fortune for your cronies by privatising it......and once they have asset stripped it and sacked all the staff they can either hand it back to us in ruins or flog it on without the pension fund.
Wall Street capitalism was never rocket science!

Since Britain is broke, and cuts are being made across the board, does it really matter if woodland is sold off? The woodland is still protected so what is the problem :p
Also loved Stephen Smith's report :o)

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#29: Mistress, anyone else and i would think that comment was ironic.

i love the way this Tory Govt seems to imagine we should all "trust" them to do the right thing, that the Health Service and Education "reforms" are really "in our own best interests", rather than a deliberate and ideological destruction of the Welfare State.

honest and decent politicians take the time to build consensus, they explain their policies, and they listen to the criticisms. They don't take us to war on the basis of secret "dodgy dossiers", and they don't destroy the Welfare State when they didn't even win the election.

then again, honest and decent politicians don't have to worry that an enraged population is going to attack and burn down *their* homes in revenge, do they? I am, of course, referring to Tunisia here, not the UK.

as if we Brits would ever do such a thing!!! :o

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HAL, indeed.

respect to the Tories, they are all practising their propaganda well, all they aim for is to create enough diversions in the blogosphere to prevent concerted opposition. A clever plan, and it appears to be working.

helped considerably by the Leader of the Opposition being a "Honking 'Ed."

can *ANYONE* take him seriously? I can fully understand why his mother intended to vote for Diane Abbott in the leadership election.


i am pleasantly surprised that "Printing Money" is now CALLED "Printing Money", instead of "Quantitative Easing", reporters jobs would be much easier if they were allowed to call a spade a spade, instead of whatever Govt Gobbledygook spin doctors think up.

talking of which, Campbell made some good points about the Murdochracy, shame NuLabour didn't do anything about his Empire when they were in power though. Still, at least they didn't employ MurdochRats at the highest levels.

I'm glad the police are finally investigating the illegal routine spying on HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE'S PRIVATE COMMUNICATIONS!

after all, that is what MI5 and Echelon are for.

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in the US and much of the EU, there are privacy laws. Here, we just wave at the surveillance cameras, and wait for the police to baton charge any protesters.

2011 seems to be a Year of Protests, what is really interesting about that, is that it seems to be the Muslim countries, who supposedly needed the US & Britain to "teach them about democracy" under our military occupation, who seem to be changing due to popular pressure, whilst we lucky lucky people, who live under alleged Liberal Democracies, our voices are completely ignored whilst Corporates and Bankers take total(itarian) control.


soon, the only 'service' the State will provide will be 'interest' payments to the Banks, Corporate subsidies, and fighting America's wars. But "We, the People" will pay handsomely in taxes for such benefits for us.

its kind of funny how the Tories never explain how Corporate subsidies and tax-breaks are a wealth redistribution from the middle classes and poor to the wealthy, isn't it?

The day the NN crew really investigate Soros` Open Society Foundation and its meddling with our european borders I will think you folk really do want to challenge global capitalism and the insane mass migration that seems almost aimed at causing another Holocaust.As it is I accuse the ´óÏó´«Ã½ of being part of a problem and no part of a solution....except perhaps a final solution!

I know that I have to bear the accusation that I am racist and xenophobic...though they are really not true at all....but the last straw forme was researching the death of Victoria Climbie and realising that her horrific little existence was the direct result of Soros and the fools who think we can just allow any cruel savage into this country to torture small children to death at public expense...and COVER IT UP with "inquiries" that scapegoat social workers when it`s the fault of our neoliberal elite.

But NN is an establishment con...it`s a torture of Tantalus...an "almost" world that appears to promise real gutsy journalism but DAREN`T!

@ Mindy #31 - no it is not irony.... I really could not care less.
I'm more worried about this:

THINK 'INDIANA JONES' 76 (#36)

As our hero demonstrated, the hand-gun made the sword redundant - regardless of consummate swordsmanship. Advances in weaponry, accelerate much as computing does (an allied field).

I suggest our leaders' disinterest in planes to put on the decks of future carriers, and our chopping up of the Nimrod fleet, half built, is all of a piece. Weapons coming to fruition now, will surely have a 'fry-factor', orders of magnitude beyond current capability. No Top Gun can dodge the laser beam. His fighter-jet is a tin-sword to Indie's laser. Carriers and Nimrods will be but ‘fist-waving’.

We are not defenceless - more indefensible.

35. At 08:41am on 27 Jan 2011, worcesterjim wrote:

The day the NN crew really investigate Soros` Open Society Foundation and its meddling with our european borders I will think you folk really do want to challenge global capitalism and the insane mass migration that seems almost aimed at causing another Holocaust.As it is I accuse the ´óÏó´«Ã½ of being part of a problem and no part of a solution....except perhaps a final solution!

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New Labour wanted Regional Asemblies, i.e devolution as with NI, Scotland and Wales. Now they talk of RDAs. These are all about the size of an EU NUT (6 million). It is all part of the erosion of power of the UK state. Anarchism or Balkanization = globalization. Power to the markets, and those who control industries etc. It is not power to people.

Don't expect NN to investigate this agenda. They (and the ´óÏó´«Ã½ in general) have been set up to protect it and hide it from the masses.

do police declare their journalistic earnings to the revenue?
do the media declare their payments to police? is there transparency?
How many thousands,millions is this trade worth?

forests as an inheritance tax wheeze? they also get subsidy.
chinese will buy the forests. they need lots of cheap wood.

Worchestersaucejim wrote @35

"As it is I accuse the ´óÏó´«Ã½ of being part of a problem and no part of a solution....except perhaps a final solution!"

you mean like er the way the ´óÏó´«Ã½ ignore such folk as George Soros and his friends depopulation programmes or how the Beeb is a cog in the workings of the Global warming/Al gore new tax regime thingy-me-jiggy...
Do you mean that bit?.

CAHOOTS CONSTABULARY? (#39)

I might have mentioned - once or twice - the Conservative 'liar flyer' carrying the 'indefensible truth': THE CONSERVATIVES MUST WIN HERE TO STOP 5 MORE YEARS OF GORDON BROWN.

In the course of my (ongoing) quest to have that statement defined 'false' and the 2010 election challenged, as to its viability, I have established that there is NOT ONE office of regulation, charged with election-flyer scrutiny, or control. I HAVE TO MAKE A COMPLAINT TO THE - - - - POLICE.

What would you do?

41 Barrie...what will it achieve if you do become an MP or MEP?
Hundreds of feisty souls like you have been minced to shreds by the Westminster machine or converted into tools of the elite.
They all prided themselves on their integrity and vowed to make a difference.
It has NOTHING to do with Labour and the Conservatives....in fact we have been living in a virtual one party state for thirty years...at least!

#41 and 42

Mediocracy: How It Works:- The idea seems to have long been to shape/corral all three main parties towards the centre so that nothing much is ever done to impede the interests of business, and the electorate (consumers) becomes so disenchanted with politics that they effectively give up in despair or just ennui. Any statist parties in the meantime are vilified, that's how the corraling works. There are activists everywhere to do just that. This effectively leaves politicians answerable to those who fund them, i.e business. Legislation is then debated and enacted which facilitates their interests at the expense of the public/consumers. Whatever happens, you see less and less Governance, i.e less and less Public Sector/Services. This inane talk about differences between parties is just the cynical process of wearing the public down.

barrie has been told all this before (almost a hundred times) by others.

Maybe barrie is an activist!

SO TELLING THAT THE TELLING ELICITED BY BEING TOLD, SEEMS NOT TO TELL (#43)

I read nothing in 41 or 42 concerning party difference. You haven't been getting into 'genius' company, and addling your brain again, DJ?

Seious business-Two men have lost their jobs at heavenly righteous Sky Sports. Does this mean the devils angels on Loose Women are going to be sent to hell by ITV.After all whats good for the goose -is good for the gander.

#44: the only addled brains here are those listening to the FSB/RT propagandists.

the ones spreading disinformation preventing the UK for aiming at energy security, and political progress.

barry, as it not occurred to you that since JJ, that poster has been here constantly under other guises, sometimes multiple simultaneously? Tabblenabble, U55858767, Statist, and that one that hogged the top of the page every day pretending to be 'liberal', amongst others? Junkkmale listed them recently.

WHO do you think he is posting as now??

please think about it.