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Well one POSSIBLE implication is, "Here's one for the Lord..." BANG. But a modicum of common sense should prevent people from reacting based upon one possible implication, and instead they should realise that the manufacturer is simply a 'Christian' manufacturer. In & Out Burger is a popular fast food chain based here in California, and they commonly have bible verses printed on their cups; nobody ever went there and objected, as far as I know.

Of course I disagree with the assertion that America's "goodness" is based upon biblical standards. This is something American conservatives love to say - the nation was "founded on God" etc. - it's utter nonsense. America was founded upon liberty, and a respect of liberty is what fostered "goodness".

As JN8:12 (John chapter 8, verse 12) is inscribed on some gunsights, I don’t suppose MK10:19, ‘Do Not Kill’, will be on them anytime soon?

I remember a local paper which I used to read regularly carried adverts from a plant hire firm run by a member of the Free Presbyterian Church - after lists of cement mixers and kango hammers they always concluded with the line "My God shall supply all your needs". (Philippians 4 v. 19) Either he was totally unconscious of the irony or he really had the ultimate franchise.

Is it not an oxymoron to have a Christian Arms Manufacturer? Or am I just being old fashioned?

Christian Arms Manufacturer...

Is this a healing ministry?

... and pass the ammunition ...



Personally I prefer the Dixie Chicks singing 'Sin Wagon'

>8-D

Maybe 1SAM15 would be a suitable code.

#8

We shall smite thine enemies wi' yon surface-to-air missile...

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I thought a sniper would want to limit muzzle flare. Light shining in the darkness will just get him killed...

Disgraceful, a clear EVIL missuse of the Word of God, the arms dealers should be ashamed of themselves.

Also. this will give the Islamic funnys more ammunition to say they are involved in a holy war.

It isn't the best witness, is it?

Did you ever hear Woody Allen tell the story about the bullet his mother gave him. He always kept it in the breast pocket of his jacket. One day a deranged evangelical threw a bible off the roof of a building and hit him in the chest, and it would have killed him, only it hit the bullet in his pocket.

Are military weapons not government issue. Seems odd that the US gov should allow private manufacturers to put their own inscriptions on them Still it could start a trend. Sponsor a rifle and get your own message on it eg.Stop worrying, there probably is no God, care of the Richard Dawkins Foundation.

Guys,

I think you're reading too much into this. Guns are a tool that can be used in numerous ways, most of them not EEEEVIL. I have a firearm with trijicon sights myself (without any bible passage inscribed thereon). I don't use it to kill. I use it for fun. Pistol shooting is an olympic sport. I interviewed the top pistol shooter in the world not long ago; she uses trijicon sights!

What you're doing is making an illogical jump from "Gun" to "Evil" and then claiming that the central values of Christianity are incompatible with manufacturing firearm parts. I'd encourage you to think a little harder about that.

This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

Gladys,

The only people for whom it follows that a bible verse printed on a widely-used firearm accessory means God is on our side in war are people who haven't thought hard enough about it. I agree with you that that's an implication the military should deal with, because people ARE stupid, but I don't think Trijicon did anything 'wrong'.

Is stupid wrong?

Dunno. Which one of us are you calling stupid?

Gladys

Fear the wrath of the blogmeister!

Apparently you're not allowed to advertise your worthwhile blog! Having read it earlier, I'm assuming that's why your post was pulled.

However, everyone, if you were to follow the usual internet preceedure of double u three times followed by a fullstop and then typed someone's name, say, for example, emmmmmmm, let me see... gladys ganiel and then another full stop and then an appropriate ending, say dot co dot uk, or, better still, dot com, perhaps, you just might, possibly, maybe find something interesting!!

It seems to me the proper biblical inscription that should go on a gun sight is:

"An eye for an eye"

Graham # 10 (Honestly not picking on you!) I used to be quite a good shot (before I wised-up) and so can tell you that if you had ever used a sight you would know the importance of light. Take a look at Trijicon's website: you will see that the verses chosen are far from random. Let me quote from their on-line catalogue (this is for the Trijicon TriPower):

Trijicon, Inc., the leader in the development of innovative, self-luminous aiming systems, has introduced the industry's first triple-illuminated sight. A failsafe firearms system that provides a fully illuminated reticle that's easy to see in virtually any lighting conditions, including partial or total darkness.

This misuse of a message of hope and life is not only a true blasphemy, it is a perversion of Christianity which is in every sense sick, disgusting and evil. It shows that those who would look for Satan active in the world shouldn't be looking at Haiti but at the conservative 'Christian' right and their role in the American imperialist military-industrial complex.

I understand the point, of course, about them being used in the military. For a start, religion is best removed completely from state, as far as possible in my opinion. There are soldiers without any faith at all, or faiths other than biblical. And of course I'm not particularly keen on having bible verses all over everything. The only point I'm making is that there is no reason why we should take a "shot for the Lord' message out of the manufacturer's inscriptions.

If that gun was really a Christian weapon...it would only fire at heretics.

Brothers, let's raise our voices in a song of praise to HIM;

~22

That explains it. I was a bit confussed. A night sight.

Yes, Peter Morrow, I appear to have violated a code of the blogosphere! Sorry about that!

And yes, John Wright, the most important point is that these guns are manufactured for the military so therefore someone, somewhere should have noticed before this that there might be a problem not just of PERCEPTION, but also a problem to do with the general way that some Americans (including former presidents) mix the politics of religion, national identity, and perhaps even 'empire.'

Gladys,

I'm happy to agree with you on that point. So, guns aren't eeevil, right? If you ever visit California I'll let you shoot with my trijicon sights.

Not intrinsically evil, no.

OK, other products with biblical verses:
Condoms with GEN38:9
Whiskey with ISA5:22
SOS1:13 - any offers?

The Secular Coalition of America launched an official protest about the bible verses on the gun sights and the Freedom from Religion foundation encouraged people to write in protest. I don't know what role that played, but ABC News now reports that Trijicon has decided to stop putting the inscriptions on the gun sights and provide kits to remove them from those already issued:



And so out goes one blatant violation of the first amendment. Well done to those who took the time take action against that particular bit of bible pushing.