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1. At 10:35 AM on 29 Mar 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:

   Thank you for that link, it saves me a click!

   While you are adding links and buttons, could I put in a request for a link to

   'Listen to the Latest programme'

   and

   'Bottom of page' ?

   They'd be really helpful as lots of us are Listenagainners and some of the threads get really long and you get fed up scrolling down. Because of course, every second helps and we'll be able to add even more of those Sony-nominated comments!! ;-O/

2. At 10:50 AM on 29 Mar 2007, Big Sister wrote:

   After a bit of legal wrangling, Eddie, as you may or may not be aware ........

   But, yes, thank you! and I'm sure Jonnie will be very pleased to have it as a 'welcome home' present.

   Would you be so kind as to watch your email box? I've a suggestion for you to consider. Thank you.

3. At 10:53 AM on 29 Mar 2007, RJD wrote:

   Gossipmistress - Re:Bottom of Page. What about Ctrl/End? I use it all the time.

   What I would REALLY, REALLY like would be if the PREVIOUS - MAIN - NEXT buttons could be copied to beneath the last comment. They appear twice at the top of each thread - I'd be surprised if that was the original designer's intention.
   

4. At 10:56 AM on 29 Mar 2007, John H. wrote:

   Gossipmistress, whilst I can't help with the listen again link it might be helpful to mention that the "home" and "end" keys on your PC usually take you to the top and bottom on a web page respectively. If you're using a Mac, I don't know what the alternatives are - or if there are any. It does depend on the "focus" though - because if, for example, you're typing a comment, the "home" and "end" keys take you to the top and bottom of the comment. Which isn't as helpful. You have to click outside the comment box.

5. At 11:07 AM on 29 Mar 2007, silver-fox wrote:

   A useful link is that. Thank you.

6. At 11:20 AM on 29 Mar 2007, Big Sister wrote:

   RJD: I'll second that about the previous/main/next thingey for the bottom. It can drive me mad.

   Okay, it can drive me even madder.

7. At 11:28 AM on 29 Mar 2007, John H. wrote:

   Slightly off topic, I just took a moment to have a look at last Friday's discussion to see what Drinks had got herself into. Taxation is a funny one, isn't it? I know this isn't really the point of the discussion, but I remember mailing Woman's Hour (ages ago) to make the point that people can pay more tax if they wish. I have no idea if the law has changed since then - but I doubt it. The issue came about because there was an item where two contributors were saying that taxation was "too low" - I may be wrong, but I think it was Polly Toynbee and Diane Abbott. I suggested that they could pay more if they wished because taxation levels represented the "minimum level". I find the subject quite interesting - for a while I wondered if you could have a campaign to persuade people to pay more for specific causes (like education, or the NHS). Whilst this raises the somewhat broader question about taxation hypothecation, you just know it could never work.

8. At 12:00 PM on 29 Mar 2007, wrote:

   Home and end keys do fine for me, but a link would do no harm. Nice to have a link to the refuge :-)

   We shouldn't need to tax ourselves...
   xx
   ed

9. At 12:07 PM on 29 Mar 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:

   RJD/John H - thanks for that! As you can see I'm not the most computer-literate... tend to get by on the 'muddle through' method! RJD yes agree that that other previous/next button would be better at the bottom

10. At 12:29 PM on 29 Mar 2007, Chris C wrote:

    The man at the gate won't let me out of the site despite him knowing I want to leave for the Froggers' Refuge.

    Is he a member of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard or is his satnav to blame and he thinks I'm already on the other side of the chainlink fence?

11. At 12:35 PM on 29 Mar 2007, wrote:

    Should we promote this to those dissident Radio 3 listeners who aren't allowed to talk about R3 on the R3 messageboards any more?

12. At 12:37 PM on 29 Mar 2007, wrote:

    I've got to say the home and end keys do the job admirally, but I echo the call for a previous/main/next bar at the mottom of the page. Not really a gripe, you understand, just constructive feedback :-)

13. At 12:52 PM on 29 Mar 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Gonzo (10) And also to those Today listeners who have to wait til 9am for their message board to open?

14. At 01:03 PM on 29 Mar 2007, wrote:

    Gillian (13),

    At least when you post to the Today board, your message appears instantly.
    xx
    ed

15. At 02:22 PM on 29 Mar 2007, wrote:

    Gonzo - Radio 3 & their trials have made it to Private Eye this week. It says the station is in meltdown, & mentions the infamous censored message boards. Someone should tell them about this place. Liberty 'All 'ere, innit?

16. At 04:40 PM on 29 Mar 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    But why would one want to move onto the previous or next page without adding a comment first? Having done that, of course, one ends up back at the top of the page. What's that I hear you say? One isn't required to comment every single time one comes to the end of the thread? Really? But where's the fun in that?... :-)

17. At 05:15 PM on 29 Mar 2007, RJD wrote:

    Ap - I don't end up back at the top of the page after I post. Or do I? Let's see. . . .

18. At 05:19 PM on 29 Mar 2007, RJD wrote:

    Hmm - seems like I do. Sorry about that.

    Don't care though - I still want the buttons at the bottom for quick browsing.

    (Ah! I knew that would be too quick - just whistle for a bit now - o ooOo oOooo oooO oooO)

    (Another whistle - oooO oo OooooO OoOoooO)

19. At 05:33 PM on 29 Mar 2007, Gillian wrote:

    RJD (18) The Froggers' Chorus needs that whistling! It's superb! Head over to The Song while that tune's still fresh in your head, please ;o)

20. At 05:52 PM on 29 Mar 2007, Humph wrote:

    Appy/RJD How? When I post, I (usually) get the "Thank you for posting" comment and if I use the go back button I return to see my comment still in the comment box. I usually go to "open favorites" to avoid accidental re-posting.

    H.

21. At 06:17 PM on 29 Mar 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Sometimes I just want to browse, not always to add a comment (believe it or not) which is when the bottom buttons would be useful ......

22. At 06:44 PM on 29 Mar 2007, Frances O wrote:

    Annasee, do we really want Private Eye let loose on this frog?

    Admittedly, I dare say there is a crossover between froggers and Eye readers, but...

23. At 07:41 PM on 29 Mar 2007, RJD wrote:

    Humph (20) - Yep the Back button will take you back to your message. But if you click on the message that confirms your post has gone through and invites you to return to thread, you will go back to the top of that thread, which is sensible enough because you are unlikely to want to comment again on the same thread.

    The "recent comments" block at the top, although working pretty well today is usually hopelessly behind events and can’t be relied on to tell you where people are posting. In any event it only covers 5 items and there can be as many as 20 active threads at any one time. I’m a bit sad in that I try to skim back to see where people are commenting – thus I always go to the bottom of the thread. To be able to jump from bottom to bottom (stop that sniggering!) would be very useful – hence the call for the PREVIOUS – MAIN - NEXT buttons at that point.
    

24. At 08:08 PM on 29 Mar 2007, wrote:

    Aye, RJD

    But they must be ABOVE the comments form, or we'll have to scroll up to the bottom, if you see what I mean

25. At 08:09 PM on 29 Mar 2007, wrote:

    And they'll probably take you to the top....

26. At 08:45 PM on 29 Mar 2007, PlagiariseRJD wrote:

    Ah, come on Ed. I expect you are right but I was hoping the code would be edited without me having to explain it in infinite detail. :o)

27. At 10:12 PM on 29 Mar 2007, wrote:

    Frances O - Sorry I didn't express myself very clearly. I didn't mean Private Eye should be let loose on this blog. I meant the poor souls who are Radio 3 listeners, forbidden from making any criticism of what they hear there. Do you think they would be allowed to make a criticism here, or would the secret Radio 3 police find them out & get it removed? All most intriguing...

28. At 10:21 PM on 29 Mar 2007, Val P wrote:

    Appy @ 16, I know what you mean, girl. It's irrestistible innit?
    I learn summat all the time from you lot though, Home and End eh? Never even noticed them before! GossipM, I'm with you on the muddling through. I know half the things I do on the pc aren't nearly elegant enough, but I work it out on a need to know basis, and if there isn't anyone around to tell me better, then I just keep on doing it wrong!

29. At 12:00 AM on 30 Mar 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    That sounds like a good plan Valery (28)!

30. At 01:52 AM on 30 Mar 2007, wrote:

    RJD (26),

    You expect intelligent programming after what we've observed so far? Not to detract from the genuine effort from Lissa and Marc (and Eddie), but I haven't seen any sign of inclination to such intervention, even from Jem Stone (sic)

    Sleep well and awake to the same old ----.

    ed

31. At 09:21 AM on 30 Mar 2007, Gillian wrote:

    Ed I (30) Morning, Ed. I hope you've had a good night's sleep, and woken up as fresh as a daisy. I must say I have had no difficulties with the Blog for quite a while now, except for slipping back to September momentarily, and that didn't bother me much. As far as I'm concerned, everything's good! (but then I do speak as a technophobe, so what do I know?) ;o)

32. At 10:27 AM on 30 Mar 2007, wrote:

    Gillian (31),

    Good morning yourself. I hope your sleep was as untroubled as mine. I must admit I'm losing relatively few posts at the moment, but it's frustrating when you make a serious contribution and wait more than a week for it to appear as for to The Editors' blog.

    Grrrr!

    xx
    ed

33. At 11:06 AM on 30 Mar 2007, wrote:

    All,

    Further to page navigation issues, a few more shortcuts:

    [alt/left arrow] = 'Back' browser button
    [home] takes you to the top, and if you click on 'previous' or 'next', you get to the top of them, from where [end] will take you to the bottom.

    If you only scroll and don't move the mouse ot touchpad pointer, [home] will take you to the top, and you'll find the pointer poised for another 'previous' or 'next' as the case may be.

    [alt/right arrow] obviously = 'forward' browser button.

    Just thought you'd like to know, in case they never get around to giving us useful 'next' and 'previous' buttons on our bottoms.

    xx
    ed