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by audlemhistory

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audlemhistory
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John Marsden
Location of story:听
Formark Hall and East Coast and Blyth and India and Greece
Background to story:听
Army
Article ID:听
A5977858
Contributed on:听
01 October 2005

I finished at Bromsgrove School at the age of 17 in June 1939 and planned to start a 4-year degree in Mechanical Engineering at Birmingham University in September of the same year. In 1942,with the war not going well, I enlisted in the REME leaving my final year in abeyance, like many fellow students.
I was posted to the Officers鈥 Training Unit at Nottingham, but because I had been in the Officer Cadets both at school and University for a total of some 6 years I was quickly onto the advanced training courses based in Kent and then Formark Hall near Repton. Everything was 鈥渓ive ammunition鈥 鈥 rifles, brenguns, grenades etc 鈥 and I remember one incident when on a lake, crossing in collapsible canvas boats, 4 Cadets were killed by gelignite charges that were thrown by instructors into the water to simulate shell fire. Unfortunately one hit a boat, but nothing was ever reported in the press. We were also put in dark gas chambers to experience tear gas, and learnt to minimise its effect by keeping absolutely still and taking regular shallow breaths.

I was commissioned in 1943 and attended the Military College of Science for 6 months, relieved to be back engineering after months of Infantry training. I specialized in pieces of ordnance 鈥 guns and heavy anti aircraft (AA) guns and was introduced to the R37, a radar controlled remote firing system. It was TOP SECRET and very effective against flying bombs, delivering 30 rounds a minute with great accuracy. There were only 20 of us qualified to install and maintain the R37 equipment being installed on the East Coast which was under enemy attack so I was not allowed to leave the UK until after VE day, despite being drafted to go on 3 separate occasions.

On VE Day I was at the Royal Navy Submarine base at Blyth, Northumberland and the staff sergeant and myself joined the officers in the Ward Room where the whisky flowed in large measures. I vaguely remember being taken for a trip round the bay in a U-class submarine crewed by merry officers!
As a Captain in 1945 I sailed to Bombay and then to Avadi, Madras where I witnessed a brief but unrecorded Mutiny, which was due to the incompetence of those in charge. I then moved on to Cairo and later Athens before being appointed a Brigade E.M.E at Veroria, Northern Greece. Finally in the summer of 1947 I was on my way home via Piraeus and troopship to Marseilles. Together with a fellow officer we decided to 鈥榤iss鈥 the train to Calais and have a weeks 鈥楩rench Leave鈥 on the French Riviera! I was demobbed in the late summer of 1947 and returned to Birmingham University to complete the final year of my degree.

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Message 1 - R37

Posted on: 17 October 2005 by Market Harborough Royal British Legion

Hello John,
What a surprise to come across your story of R37, that specialised 鈥渁dd-on鈥 that we put on the 3.7 AA guns 60+ years ago.

I鈥檝e been searching my memory for your name and trying to compare dates in your story with my records and recollections. Did our paths cross? Does any of the following ring bells with you?

I joined, what my records show was, 37R Installation Detachment REME (there was doubt whether the R preceded or followed 37), attached to 1AAWorkshop Coy., at Golders Green, London NW11) in October 1944. Aged 21, I had just completed six months 34th Officers AAE course at the Military College of Science outposts at Bury, Lancashire and Stoke-on-Trent (plus short 鈥減ractical鈥 courses at Croydon, Ashton-under-Lyne and Arborfield). Like you, my M C of S course was preceded by the OCTU at Formark Hall and pre-OCTU (at Wrotham, Kent). I was commissioned in December 1943, having been called up in July 1943 after completing my B Sc (Eng), (but in two years) at Queen Mary College, London University but evacuated to Cambridge.

O i/c 37R was Captain Jefferson and he had a corporal clerk who I think was called Cappoci. The establishment included two lieutenants and I believe I had joined to replace one who had been posted. Was that you or were you the one who stayed at Golders Green in charge of the parties working on the East Coast, whilst I was sent to Wainscot? There I was put in charge of the six parties that had changed from their previous mobile role on gun sites to a more comfortable life in a workshop.

My VE Day also involved the consumption of alcohol that provoked a near assault by Monica when she returned from the pub to find me dressed in her ATS officer鈥檚 uniform! Fortunately, Courts Marshall did not follow.

Unlike you, I was not posted overseas, but remained with 37R. Captain Jefferson was succeeded as O i/c by Captain Bill Spackman from whom I took over when he moved to the War Office. He got his crown and I my third pip! My last and rather sad 37R duty was to disband it in May 1946.

The period until demob in July 1947 was mostly spent in the pleasant but rather curious surroundings of the Military College of Science at Shrivenham in an environment somewhere between the military and academia.

Prompted by your story I have written one in which I have tried to describe the purpose, composition and the different roles in which 37R (R37) operated. I hope that it complements what you wrote and this personal response and contribution to the Forum. You will find it posted on this website under the title 鈥37R Installation Detachment REME鈥 as contributed by the Market Harborough Royal British Legion Associate Centre (with which I am involved).

With thanks and kind regards,
Tom Ashmore

Message 2 - R37

Posted on: 04 November 2005 by audlemhistory

Sorry for the delay in replying, I don't check the site very often. I have printed out your story and your message and will deliver them to John ASAP. Don't know whether he will be able to reply direct or whether it will be through me again.
audlemhistory

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