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CONVOY ESCORT

by Peter Walker

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Peter Walker
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PETER WALKER
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NORTH ATLANTIC
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Royal Navy
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A1115966
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20 July 2003

CORVETTES WERE DESIGNED FOR COASTAL CONVOY DUTY BUT WERE USED FOR NORTH ATLANTIC CONVOYS FOR WHICH THEY WERE UNSUITED .AS SUCH CREWS RECIEVED DOUBLE "HARD LYING MONET " BECAUSE OF THE DISCOMFORT
DURING 1941 I SERVED IN HMCS SNOWBERRY AS A SUBMARTNE DETECTOR OPERATOR ,SNOWBERRY ONE OF TH ORIGINAL FLOWER CLASS CORVETTES .
SNOWBERRY ESCORTED SEVERAL CONVOYS FROM THE CLYDE AND LONDONDERRY TO ICELAND NEWFOUNDLAND AND NOVA SCOTIA OFTEN IN. APPALLING WEATHER .
CONVOYS OFTEN TOOK WEEKS BECAUSE ZIG ZAGS AND THE SPEED WAS THAT OF THE SLOWEST SHIP SUCH AS A WHALING FACTORY.OFTEN ONLY 3 KNOTS .
IT WAS NOT UNCOMMON TO BE HOVE TO FOR DAYS IN HURRICANE FORCE WINDS AND 40 FOOT WAVES ROLLING 45 DEGREES .AND SLOWED DOWN BY THICK FOG.
EVERY FOG SIGNAL USED A BUCKET OF PRECIOUS WATER AS STEAM.APART FROM U-BOATS YHERE WAS ALWAYS THE THREAT OF ICEBURGS AND BEING RUN DOWN BY SPIPS OF THE CONVOY IN FOG
SNOWBERRY HAD ONLY A MAGNETIC COMPASS AND NO RADAR ,NAERLY ALWAYS IT WAS TOO CLOUDY TO FIX A POSITION BY SEXTANT THE ONLY ARMAMENT WAS A 12 POUNDER GUN ON THE FORECASTLE FOR SURFACE ACTION FOR ANTI AIRCRAFT DEFENCE THERE WAS A LEWIS GUN AND A TOMMY GUN FOR USE AT THE WINGS OF THE BRIDGE
THERE WAS NO REFRIGERATION ONLY A MEATSAFE AND VEGETABLE LOCKER ON THE WELLDECK AT THE BREAK OF THE FORCASTLE .MEAT WENT OFF AFTER 24 HOURS AT SEA .BREAD WENT MOULDY SOON AFTER (AT THAT TIME "SEABREAD " LONG KEEPING BREAD HAD NOT BEEN INVENTED.
FOR COOKING THERE WAS A COAL FIRED ARMY TYPE RANGE IN TH GALLEY ON THE POOPDECK ABAFT THE ENGINE ROOM CASING .IN HEAVY WEATHER THE FIRE WAS OFTEN SWAMPED ,SO A LOT OF THE TIME WE LIVED ON SHIPS BISCUITS AND TINNED MEAT
SNOWBERRY WAS BUILT ON THE CLYDE AT GREENOCK/GOUROCK WHERE SHE WAS COMMISIONED.
THE TOMMY GUN WAS HANDED IN BY THE PULIC BECAUSE OF SHORTAGES .LIKWISE SOME OF THE BINNOCULARS WERE OPERA GLASSES HANDED IN BY THE PUBLIC
ON THE FIRST CONVOY DUTY SNOWBERRY SAILED WITHOUT DEPTH CHARGE RAILS OR THROWERS BECAUSE YHEY HAD BEEN DESTROYED BY ENEMY ACTION AT THE SHIPBUILDERS OR IN TRANSIT BEFORE THE COULD BE FITTED .
THE DEPTH GHARGES WERE CHOCKED UP AND LASHED ON DECK AND HAD TO BE HURLED MANUALLY OVER THE BULLWARKS

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Message 1 - Russian Convoy Work

Posted on: 23 July 2003 by Kent Libraries- Shepway District

I enjoyed your account and I think you might like the extract from the memoirs of Stan Hook [on the site as "Not the Russian Convoy"] on the personal page for Shepway Libraries

Regards,

Rob Illingworth

Message 2 - Russian Convoy Work

Posted on: 22 February 2004 by Peter Walker

[ WILL TRY AND HAVE A LOOK .THE UPGRADED FLOWER CLASS WERE MUCH THEY HAD BETTER ASDIC USING AGIRO COMPASS AND BETTER ANTI SUBMARINE WEAPOnS I SERVED ON HMS SPIREA FOR A SHORT TIME DURING 1942
IN 1943 TILL END OF WAR IN EUROPE I SERVED IN HMS BELLONA A MODIFIED DIDO CLASS CRUISER .BELLONA PRTICIPATED IN SEVERAL RUSSIAN CONVOYS TO THE KOLA INLET.
SOME YEARS AGO I RECIEVED THE RUUSSIAN COMMEMERATIVE MEDAL AS A VETERAN

Message 1 - Snowberry

Posted on: 14 November 2003 by Harry Hargreaves

This account really confuses me to the extent I wonder if the writer is talking about the same ship. I know the ship well and I have a photograph of the Snowberry leaving Clyde on her first convoy (pendant number K166).. She is fitted with radar (or RDF as it was then called)type 272 housed in a "lantern" fitting on the mast. Her armament was complete with a four inch gun forward and a two pounder aft together with point five machine guns on either side. She had depth charge rails fitted (in fact the idea that a depth charge could be picked up and thrown manually over the side is ludicrous). She like all corvettes was fitted with a gyro compass so any use of the magnetic compass was only a last resort. She had her full complement of 1900A large binoculars placed onboard in Quebec where she was built before being sent to Greenock for final finishing and trials. Opera glasses would have been totally useless as for relying on a Tommy gun for close firing would be suicidal. The maximum tilt of a Corvette was proven to be 35 degrees under test, at 45 degrees she would have turned over. The slowest speed of any ship joining a convoy throughout the war was 6 knots, heavy weather would sometimes bring the convoy to almost a standstill but a 3 knot ship would have to travel seperately if such a ship existed. The anti submarine equipment (later to be known as sonar) was manned by sailors called ASDIC operators. The galley stove was oil fired, they did not carry coal. The reader can see why I wonder if we are reading about the same ship. Life under normal conditions was hard enough but under the circumstances described it would have been impossible.

Message 2 - Snowberry

Posted on: 20 February 2004 by Peter Walker

you are not talking about the same ship .most of the details you refer to conflict with those of the original flower class corvette .The Snowberry I served in had type 123a asdic known as the Trawler Set The asdic you are refering to was type 127 fitted to later or refitted corvettes
I Left Snowberry at Iceland in sept 1941 and took passage to th UK in HMS BULLDOG .
Snowberry was due to go to Charleston North Carolina for o long refit
I was regular RN and lent to the RCN AS the were short of SD operators .An RN Coder was also lent because the RCN did not have any coders at tha time

I was 19 when I joined Snowberry and was probably the youngest member of the crew I wonder how many of them are around today

Message 3 - Snowberry

Posted on: 20 February 2004 by Peter Walker

HMCS SNOWBERRY ,CONVOY ESCORT---------------Comments on Forum refering to message number

Message 1
I was not a member of the depth charge crew .If there had been occasion to drop charges they would have been dropped over the stern at a safe depth setting and interval .
I had to use the binoculars as lookout in the crows nest and wing of the bridge they were very small and had a decorative trim They were not like the admiralty pattern ones I used on my previous ship the battleship Rodney
The was a saying amongst corvette crews that they rolled 45 deg.It looked like 45 deg to me..When we looked at other corvettes rolling we could see the ships bottom from water line to keel or thereabouts .It stood out because of the reddish anti fouling compound use to treat the bottom against barnacles.
I am not a Naval architect or constructor so do not know far the ship could roll before foundering .What I do know that we often rolled gunwhales under.
I often did a trick at the helm noticed that in heavy seas the magnetic compass went hard over in the gymbals Likewise when operating the Asdic(SONAR) the
magnetic compass went hard over obscuring the line of light that was meant to show the heading of the oscillator (transducer)
I joined the ship at Gourock/Greenock on loan to the RCN. The drafting authority told me that it had been given to the RCN but they were short of asdic operators.It looked like an RN corvette that is why I thought it was built on the Clyde
I do not recall seeing any radar antenna or equipment and the were no radar operators in the crew .I do recall seeing an antenna which looked like a modern portable TV ariel .It was mounted on the deck above the wireless office The Telegraphist told me that it was for the Radio Direction Finding Equipent and showed me the reciever which was about the size of a domestic wireless set and worked of an HT battery and accumulator
Although primarily an asdic operator I also did lookout duties from time to time .The port and starboard lookouts were stationed in the wings of the bridge.that is where
the guns were .They were for firing in the air at low flying aircraft I particularly remember the tommy gun because I had never seen one before

Message 4 - Snowberry

Posted on: 22 February 2004 by Peter Walker

THE SHIPS PARTICULARS GIVEN BY HARRY LOOK LIKE THOSE OF AN UPGRADED OR LATER FLOWER CLASS WHICH HAD TYPE 127 ASDIC WHICH HAD A GYRO COMPASS NOT A 123A WHICH HAD A MAGNETIC COMPASS IN A SPECIAL BINNACLE .THIS SET WAS KNOWN AS A TRAWLER SET USED BY SHIPS WITH NO GYRO
PROBABLY SNOWBERRY WAS UPGRADED WHEN SHE WAS REFITTED LATER IN 1941 AFTER I LEFT

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