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The Pub Got It Last Night

by Researcher 239253

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Researcher 239253
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Barbara McNally
Location of story:听
Camberwell, London
Article ID:听
A1147682
Contributed on:听
17 August 2003

I was born in July 1939 and was only weeks old at the outbreak of WWII. My father was a publican who had served from 1914 to 1918 in WWI and was too old to serve again. We were blasted out of our pub in Islington and moved to The Freemasons Arms in Camberwell. My aunt (fathers sister) lived in the upstairs flat and worked behind the bar.

I remember my mother taking me to the window to show me the strange plane going by, she didn't know what it was but it made an unusual noise which suddenly stopped. When the explosion came she threw herself over me to protect me.

My brother was born 2.5 years after me and our parents considered us too young to be evacuated..."we either all survive or we go together"

Dad used to do firewatching when the pub was closed for the night, either from the front step or the roof. The night the bomb dropped on us it fell on the front door step but luckily we were all asleep. We did not go the the shelter in the street as we had a cellar in the pub and beds were pushed togther so that all five of us could sleep down there. The bomb blew out the side walls and the building collapsed onto us. Luckily one or some of the girders in the roof of the cellar created a small space above us to stop us all being killed. My dad was the only casualty as the till from the bar above fell on his head and he was very bloody and unconscious.

I remember by mum and aunty both crying and praying and shouting for help. I thought I would help by pushing all this debris that was in front of me out of the way. That nearly brought the house down, literally.

I don't know how long we were down there but eventually the emergency services heard our shouts and we were pulled out more or less feet first and put in the shelter in the street. I remember looking out of the shelter door as my dad was taken away in an ambulance. The road seemed to be very bright and wet and busy with people running around and hoses and vehicles and dust everywhere. We were very lucky to have survived, many were killed by that bomb.

We went to someones house for a cup of tea and the WVS found us some clothes to wear. The lady in the house was very surprised when mum combed all the dust out of her hair, she thought mum was an elderly woman with grey hair.

We stayed for a while with relatives then mum, brother and I went to Redruth in Cornwall to stay in another pub with a publican friends who kindly found room for us away from the bombing.

Dad never had another pub but did the 'knowledge' to become a taxi cab driver. He always said it was even harder at this time because as he cycled around learning the whereabouts of places they disappeared after another nights bombing. As fast as he learnt them Hitler knocked them down.

Other random memories of that time.......

There was a barrage ballon in the local park which we called George.

While we were staying with relatives I remember we used to go under the stairs if the siren went. I got left behind one day and was at the top of the stairs laying flat as ordered when the bomb dropped. The front door glass was broken and the ceiling came down and ruined the dinners on the table.

Out with mum and baby brother and the siren went. We ran to a shelter but I was too slow again and a man picked me up and ran with me, but there was a yound lady in the street who could only duck into a doorway and I think she got hurt as she was crying when the all clear came.

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Message 1 - The pub got it

Posted on: 21 August 2003 by Stephen Henden - WW2 Site Helper

David, I was interested to hear your story. As you may see on my personal details page I am researching v1 & v2 incidents in South London and Camberwell as included in the area that I am looking at.Although you didnt actually state that this was a V1 or V2 from your description it sounds like it was. I was wondering if you have any more information about the incident, in particular do you remember what street the Freemasons arms was in and do you know the date this happened.? Ultimately I will be creating a data base and web site which will hold details of all V1 and V2 incidents in South London and if I can tie in recollections like yours it will make it even more imformative.
It sounds like your experience was truly terrifying. I am hoping that when I can publish my research on the internet it will enable people to understand exaclty how awful the period was for the people of South London
regards

Message 2 - The pub got it

Posted on: 21 August 2003 by Stephen Henden - WW2 Site Helper

Sorry researcher 239293, I by mistake adressed the last message to "David".
I apologise for the mistake
Regards

Message 3 - The pub got it

Posted on: 25 August 2003 by Barbara McNally

Hello Stephen

I'm glad you were interested in my story although there must be thousands of stories that are very similar. And you are quite correct in thinking it was very frightening, it is still etched on my memory nearly 60 years later.

According to the records the flying bomb dropped at 04.10 hrs on 25th June 1944 outside The Freemasons Arms which stood on the corner of Hillingdon Street between Warham St and Farmers Road. 11 dead, 4 seriously injured, 24 slightly injured. Many houses demolished and between 200 and 300 needing repairs.

This address was partly in Lambeth and partly in Southwark and these figures only refer to Lambeth and do not include casualties or damage in Southwark area.

The whole area was demolished and is now The Brandon Estate. Incidently Michael Caine came from Warham St I believe but he was probably evacuated by this time.

Message 4 - The pub got it

Posted on: 26 August 2003 by Stephen Henden - WW2 Site Helper

Hello Barbara, ( I got the right name this time,sorry again about the last mistake)...yes I suppose there are lots of similar stories but each one is individual as well. My intention,on completion of my research it be able to publish a web site with all the South London incidents logged and the recollections of people like yourself tied into the particular incidents. As you may gather this is a huge,huge task collecting and collating the data and then cross checking it because there are so many inconsistencies in official records. You are the first person who has been able to give me your frightening story as part of my project so I thank you very much for this. If I eventually realise my ambition and get the web site up is it OK if I use your story on it ? My intention is to not in any way sensationalise the incidents but to provide a reference tool for future researchers. My interest in the V bombs started at an early age because both sets of Grandparents lived in South London (Dulwich and Beckenham) and used to regail me with tales from when I was very young. My familly were more fortunate than you and only my Grandparents at Dulwich were affected with relatively minor damage to their house.
Once again thank you very much
Kind regards
Stephen

Message 5 - The pub got it

Posted on: 26 August 2003 by Barbara McNally

Hello Stephen

You are quite welcome to use my story if you wish. As you say it is very difficult to get first hand information about the bombing, it should have been done years ago. None of us are getting any younger!

My two aunties, both now dead unfortunately, were invited many years ago to record their memories of the war, onto tape, for a local school. Have you thought about this as an area for your research?

Although I can remember very vividly when 'my masons' got bombed I couldn't have remember time and date etc as I was under five at the time. I researched the incident at The Minet Library Local Studies section and have photocopies of the actual hand written documents created at the time. I also have photos of the Lord Mayor Sir Frank Newson Smith inspecting the damage.

Of course that is only half the story as it spread over two boroughs and I have only, as yet, researched one of them.

Message 6 - The pub got it

Posted on: 02 September 2003 by Stephen Henden - WW2 Site Helper

Hello Barbara,
I was interested in your last message of the mention of the Minet library....I dont know this particular one. Are you able to point me in the right direction.? So far I have been researching at the London Metropilitan Archive and at Croydon and Bromley Libraries. I also like your suggestion of verbal ,tapes,history.....Mind you I think that at this rate my very small research project which I started in January ,looking at V1 sites in Dulwich has now grown into a huge undertaking..!! It should keep me out of mischief for a good few years...Incidentally I didnt mention before but some of my familly came from Camberwell but they had moved out by WW2. They moved to Honor Oak and then Dulwich. I only found this out recently when I was looking at 1901 census returns.
Isnt the internet a wonderful thing !
Kind regards
Stephen

Message 7 - The pub got it

Posted on: 04 September 2003 by Barbara McNally

Hello Stephen

Yes, the internet is truly a wonderful thing. I also use the genealogical information sites and they save me so much time and struggle, especially now I am getting older.

I can get to the Minet Library but it is a bit difficult to describe. It is near Myatts Field (Park?) which is between Camberwell New Road and Brixton Road not far from The White Horse, probably classed as Camberwell but I am not sure. They have a very good Local Studies section and the staff are very helpful. It's probably in the phone book.

Your "little project" is going to be huge I think, good luck with it. And do keep in touch, and do contact me again if there is anything else I can tell you.

Regards

Barbara

Message 8 - The pub got it

Posted on: 20 September 2003 by Stephen Henden - WW2 Site Helper

Hello Barbara, hope you are well and enjoying the autumn sunshine....I have worked out where the Minet library is..thankyou. Can you perhaps tell me what type of records they have. ?
I am doing well with my research but my method includes cross checking information as much as possible,the reason being that there are a HUGE number of inconsitencies in the records. What I am also finding is that there were more V1's than the figures published at the end of the war. For example in the old borough of Dulwich and Camberwell the generally circulated figure which appears in books is 80. To date I have found 97 and I have not finished yet ! I have actual dates and times and details of these so I think the number that I am finding is fairly accurate.
So,what I am interested to know is what type of documents you were reviewing at the Minet...in particular I am keen to track down ARP records...any pointers you can give me greatfully received !
Kind regards
Stephen

Message 9 - The pub got it

Posted on: 29 September 2003 by Barbara McNally

Hello Stephen

Glad you have found the Minet.

Sorry I can't be of more help but I researched 'my' bombing quite a while ago now, and I can't remember all the steps I took. They have a lot of information in the Local Studies section, you just have to find it, the staff are very helpful.

Good luck with your project.

Message 10 - The pub got it

Posted on: 29 September 2003 by Barbara McNally

Hello Stephen

Glad you have found the Minet.

Sorry I can't be of more help but I researched 'my' bombing quite a while ago now, and I can't remember all the steps I took. They have a lot of information in the Local Studies section, you just have to find it, the staff are very helpful.

Good luck with your project.

Message 11 - The pub got it

Posted on: 17 October 2003 by mike_dorans

Stephen,
After reading your reply to the Author of 'The Pub Got It' I'm wondering if you'd be interested in looking at a map of a number of sites where V1 and V2's supposidly fell in the South Norwood area?

The map in question is located within South Norwood Police station. I'm a serving officer and I'm sure I would be able to get you in, to take a look.

Mike Dorans
0207 321 6701.

Message 12 - The pub got it

Posted on: 06 November 2003 by Stephen Henden - WW2 Site Helper

Hi Mike,sorry for delay in replying to your kind message but I somehow missed the post on the site...I do find it a bit confusing...
I would really like to take a look at this map if it is possible to arrange. I will be away for a while now so not accessible to S. Norwod but when I get back I will give you a bell.
Thank you very much, I really appreciate your help
Regards Stephen

Message 13 - The pub got it

Posted on: 09 November 2003 by Stephen Henden - WW2 Site Helper

Hello Barbara, Hope your are well.
I have now started to set up my web site regarding the V1's and V2's which can be found at :
www.flyingbombsandrockets.com
The aim of this it to provide a research rescource for anyone interested in the difficult days of 1944 and 1945. As you had said I could use your storey I have set this up as the first personal recollection that I have been able to collate. I hope that this is still OK. ?
My research is going well,although I havnt been able to get to the Minet Library yet. As from January I will be in the second year of research and I an trying to get it all completed in time for the 60th anniversary next summer.
You will find your storey on my site if you click on "South Londoners Storeys" and then you will see "Baraba Mcnally's storey" click on this and you will see the full text that you submitted to 大象传媒 peoples war site plus some further information you gave me later.
Thanks again for this. I think its really important to bring history to life with personal recollection.
Kind regards
Stephen

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