In addition to finding the most efficient way of doing things, it was a very good training ground for the time study staff, and many people moved on from there to quite senior positions later on. You can imagine to study a thing in detail and to see how it fitted in the general working, it was the basis of training for the man himself. I enjoyed that. I was involved in various factories, I was involved in the factory that did the making up, so I would study that, and then I would be sent to the dye works where we found ways of improving efficiency, or we think we did, I believe we did, and round to other factories as well, knitting factories. It was quite a basis of education as well as doing an efficient job.