大象传媒

THEY GOT THEMSELVES ANOTHER ONE

Putin only differs from Blair/Brown Cameron in terms of his political environment. Just pause and imagine the excesses a Blair would unleash, in all his megalomaniac delusion, had he the opportunity. And think what a Russian version of Alastair Campbell might get up to as his adoring lieutenant!

Don't have nightmares.

Would victims of torture get compensation from Putin?

Vladimir Putin does rhyme with Rasputin
Though i'm quite careful to make the connection
Not having enough education
About the long dead Rasputin.

mim

BRITAIN ACCORDING TO DERRING-DO DAVE

Dave says it is a great day. Well - for feudal Britain, living in the past, yes. So for Dave - Dave is right.

Meanwhile, in the real world, the rest of us can eat cake. We might even export some to S Ireland.

#1

Despite everything, singie, I haven't had a nightmare for a very long time. Discomfort, yes, but no nightmares. I should imagine it's due to my strength, faith in love, abundance of creativity and happiness I only really felt until the age of nine or so.

The Irish are resisting a direct sovereign bailout, but inferring that the ECB could "play a role" in supporting their banking system.

I presume this is because the scale of the problem is now well beyond the ability of the Irish Government to fund another bank bailout...

If we were to see the UK going the same way following a property crash here, who the h*ll is going to bail out our banks, because we certainly cannot afford to?

The domino effect is clearly a real risk - Eire & Portugal go down - their debt is held by banks in the UK, Germany, France etc - these banks then go down too - Spain, Italy, etc then begin to teeter as well - the whole lot then demolish each other - game over.

Paul should as George Osborne whether he still thinks "Ireland stands as a shining example of the art of the possible in long-term economic policymaking."

The Irish success story is really one of the EU's power is so effective in helping the marginal economies of Europe to develop - and how free market liberalisation and tax cuts have then been allowed to destroy everything the Irish and the EU worked so hard to build up.

Celtic Tigers, arcs of prosperity, an end to boom and bust, pledges against tuition fees, the Big Society, tough decisions, hard working families - games played, won and lost; Gawd bless Prince William and Queen Kate; what a lovely couple!

Let's have some straightforward action please.

We know why compensation is being paid to the boys from Guantanamo; similar situation to the Libyan Al-Megrahi; "don't let them get to court and spill the beans!"; at least it's not Russia or China, mind. Could be a lot, lot, lot worse.

Good to hear that India thinks the Burmese elections were free and fair; certainly fairer than the grinding poverty to which some castes are condemned for life, purely due to an accident of birth.

I only went to India once and didn't stay long; everyone with money trying so desperately to be cool and Americanised whilst at the same time lecturing that the caste system and the appalling street poverty were not topics to be discussed. And so chippy about the British!

DAVE SAYS THE ANSWER LIES IN THE ECONOMY.

Only one word of the above comment is sustainable. I say the answer is INTEGRITY.

There is little integrity left in the world's functioning. We British should withdraw to a sustainable core, and re-build an exemplary society. Only then can some future Prime Minister rightfully posture the world - BUT I SINCERELY HOPE WE NEVER GET ANOTHER ONE!

#8

Who would you replace any PM with? You sitting on table 2 with your hat on? I can just imagine the pair of you with your legs dangling from his shoulders with your bottom perched on his head instead.

#9

Sustainable core, is it a metaphor?

LC2 your penultimate, I think, post from the previous page.

You seemed very quick to learn Paxo's reaction about me 'assuming' that your name had anything to do with luck. How about 52 being somebody's favourite and luxuriously fixed to cherish and care for a 'mug'?

the bill for the torture compensation should be sent to T Blair.

these guys were, allegedly, going to try and kill British soldiers, surely merits a case for one day in court or am I being hopelessly naieve.....

BLAIR IS STILL INTO TORTURE (#12)

I watched him imparting his 'wisdom' at Yale (linked here recently). It was unalloyed torture. If that is a world leader, there is truly no hope. And sadly:

WE HAVE GOT OURSELVES ANOTHER ONE.

I've just seen gold glowing i'n the sky.
I promise you, I'm not making it up.
At moments the gold was in the form of lines,
At others i'n the shape of stars.

#15 addendum

A couplet to the above quartet:

I saw the gold with a quarter of my open eyes,
The image being of illuminated tall York Road lights.

I STILL FIND BLAIR METAPHORICAL TORTURE (#14 amended)

I watched him imparting his 'wisdom' at Yale (linked here recently). It was unalloyed 'torture'. If that is a world leader, there is truly no hope. And sadly:

WE HAVE GOT OURSELVES ANOTHER ONE.

Perhaps tonight's changed Newsnight agenda proves that the announcement of the Royal wedding was a deliberate ploy to take pressure of Conmoron and Blair and Brown over perhaps now proven British involvement in Guantanamo torture. By 10:30pm everybody will be thoroughly sick of having the Royal engagement rammed down their throats all day by 大象传媒 News 24 et al, the last thing they need is a boring presenter like Stephen Smith to run through it all again.

WHEN THE WORLD GOES SKINT AGAIN, WILL THE 'CLEGG PROTOCOL' APPLY TO ROYAL PLEDGES? (#18)

Coalitions can go up as well as down.

In passing: surely the EU will ban monarchy soon?

torture

given the 'national' oath [the one mi5, mi6, MPs, Military etc take] is about protecting the rights and privileges of one role gaming family and nothing about protecting the laws and rights of the british people its quite natural that the govt and its apparatus should not feel obligated to 'british citizens' given its whole moral ethos and strategic direction is about the monarchy succession?

the current national oath institutionalises the norman monarchy model. nothing else. its even an offence under treason laws to point that out and suggest the norman monarchy model should be changed.

until the 'national' oath is changed to something more fitting the british people are not safe from that norman monarchy mindset. The government will continue to hand out public tax money for its crimes based on the existing monarchist oath.

14

yes a few days of forced listening to tony speak would be up there with water boarding and mims poetry.

18

NN is deeply monarchist.

The now hayekian 'spontaneous smithy' probably doesn't get a say in that matter and the NN sisterhood want to wallow in 'feelings'?

USA Airport searches ' a sexual assault'?

oo err and why profiling works

OF COURSE NEWSNIGHT ARE MONARCHIST (#22)

Feudal honours are no longer for valorous support given to the monarch. They are a way of garnering proxy approval. To borrow a word from a princess: it is all frightfully naff.

A good news day ...... perhaps?

Hopefully the media, including Nn, will quickly leave them alone and give them a break ....

.... instead of 鈥榖reaking them鈥�!


But if it is actually 鈥� A good news day 鈥�......

What 鈥榥ews鈥� is being buried elsewhere?



And .... Oh yes ....

Is it just pure coincidence that shortly after King Con announces that he has commissioned a survey to find out just how 鈥榟appy鈥� we are ( Is he really not intelligent enough to make an informed guess?) we get the announcement of a Royal Wedding due to take place at the same time as what might have the nadir of British fortune!


And .... Oh yes ....

If someone detained as a 鈥榬esiding鈥� elsewhere - perhaps because they鈥檝e caused some other country a teensy-weensy bit of a problem - and yet their family is is not with them but being looked after by the country that has, out of the kindness of it鈥檚 heart, adopted them - at considerable expense - as almost 鈥榦ne of their own鈥� then perhaps aforementioned 鈥榬esident elsewhere鈥� should make some form of recompense to the nation that took care of his family whilst he was - inexplicably - incapacitated.

One, of course, would only expect this 鈥榞enerosity鈥� on his part if, for example, he 鈥榗ame into鈥� a large sum of money for some reason?

Of course, being able to pay cash, he might commissioned decide to buy a property ....

Overseas!

20 mins in and NN are still banging on about the royal engagement.

Quote from the nights narrative 'this won't be an austerity wedding'.

This story is worth a thousand episodes of X Factor for the Libertarians.

As another poster has often quoted 'weep Britain, weep'.

A correction to my post at No. 25 above. ..... (Oops!)


鈥淒ashes, Dashes! Get your Dashes here! .... Two Dashes going free, an鈥� I鈥檒l frow in anuvver two words for nowt!鈥�

Last sentece should read ......


Of course, being able to pay cash, he might - politely 鈥榗ommissioned鈥� of course - decide to buy a property ....

Overseas!

鈥淗onest M鈥檒ud, I 鈥榓int touched a drop over the usual four quarts!鈥�



Yes! I know 鈥榮entence鈥� has an 鈥榥鈥� in it

Yes, maffs 鈥榓s neva bin my fave rave!

鈥� ...... due to take place at the same time as what well might have been the nadir of British fortune!鈥�

I said two words and I gave you three .........

Seems like I may be ideally qualified to be a politician!



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Congratulations Newsnight on reporting other events that have happened in the world today other than the royal engagement. More than can be said for the rest of the TV news output Sky News included.

Amuses me how the media goes into a flunky frenzy on these occasions, interviewing everyone from the man who laid the pavement slab that Kate Middleton stepped on in 1993, to a cockroach that used to live under the floorboards at her old school.

Why the media thinks the country rises into a state of euphoria at the mention of a royal betrothal is quite beyond my comprehension. But then I'm only a prol I suppose.

Was also wondering who would be paying for this illustrious, magnificent wedding. Such thought would be sedition, no doubt. That's ok. I'm sure my family will be happy to put up with cuts, higher VAT and a reduction in lifestyle during the days ahead, as long as the royals are happy.

#2

I've now 'educated' myself a bit about the controversial seeking controversy Rasputin:



Although Rasputin does rhyme with Putin
There is between them that much resemblance
But Putin does seem to be good friends
With somebody who is indulging in 'being' 'Rasputin',
Hitler, clown Mario and even Stalin.
I could go on giving their names
But what's the point, the list is endless.

Newsnight鈥檚 stated intention for Last night鈥檚 programme:-
鈥淎round a dozen men who accused British security forces of colluding in their torture overseas are to get millions of pounds in compensation from the British government.....
Tonight we'll discuss the significance of the government offering this compensation.鈥�

We associate devious politicians with the practice of 鈥榖urying bad news鈥� - not Newsnight.

The above hot potato was simply dropped! I switched channels, seeing in the background a cosy group assembled for what was bound to be a session of sycophantism, and welcome the blogs of those who have commented on this, e.g.
#13 stevie wrote:
鈥渢hese guys were, allegedly, going to try and kill British soldiers, surely merits a case for one day in court or am I being hopelessly naive.....鈥� and-
#18 brossen99 wrote:
鈥淧erhaps tonight's changed Newsnight agenda proves that the announcement of the Royal wedding was a deliberate ploy to take pressure of Conmoron and Blair and Brown over perhaps now proven British involvement in Guantanamo torture. By 10:30pm everybody will be thoroughly sick of having the Royal engagement rammed down their throats all day by 大象传媒 News 24 et al, the last thing they need is a boring presenter like Stephen Smith to run through it all again. 鈥� and I liked-
#21. jauntycyclist wrote:

鈥測es a few days of forced listening to tony speak would be up there with water boarding and mim鈥檚 poetry鈥�

Having previously watched Channel4 Dispatches report on the excesses of the EU Gravy Train (at UK taxpayers鈥� expense) we need to radicalise and change our predominant characteristics of tolerance, apathy, lethargy and complacency (TALC) - all aided by 大象传媒 dumbing down (pushing entertainment and celebrity instead of informing and enlightening)and the deliberate influx of grateful immigrants.

I鈥檓 happy that we had the example of students taking to the streets in protest, and do not wish to condone, condemn (or even condom) the occasional excesses of the young. And I still advocate the re-introduction of National Service to get a semblance of national pride, discipline and camaraderie back into our English society. This would also provide a low cost solution to the looming mass unemployment of those who cannot afford the huge increases in university fees, ease the withdrawal of benefits, and force those immigrants who have allegiances that conflict with our way of life to either serve the country or s.. off.

Think and Act Radical!

'TALC' - FOR EVERY OTHER SORE THERE'S BABY OIL (#32)

Brilliant IDG2!

I was never 'fit' for National Service. Is yor cut-off age less that 73? if so, I am with you - facetiously.

Nurse! More talc!

i see the bbc is still trying to brainwash the kids with shows like

..Future Landscapes: Climate Change and Urbanisation...

funny thing is the bbc call this show 'learning' rather than the disnformation or black propaganda on behalf of those who run the carbon trading exchanges.

#33barrie
"'TALC' - FOR EVERY OTHER SORE THERE'S BABY OIL (#32)Nurse! More talc!"

Sums it up nicely Barrie; every sore point exposed by society is being massaged by the gov't and 大象传媒 with baby oil and "there, there it'll be all right, I'll tell you a nice story so go to bye-byes baby"

But don't call for more talc or talk: it's ACTION that's lacking. Whenever you think Talc, don't just talk - take action! Keep on blitzing your MP and Local Councillors. See you on the streets soon!

#32 Perhaps the clunking gravy train is about to come to an end.



Good to see you post Indignantindegene. I'd rather hear from you than the endless royal wedding shoved down our throats, as you say what's being buried, europe collapsing, comp for terrorists, who knows.

REST ASSURED I SHALL NOT REST (#35)

I am coming 'nicely' to the boil IDG2. I have reached the 6 month mark in my quest to have: 'THE TORIES MUST WIN HERE TO STOP 5 MORE YEARS OF GORDON BROWN' addressed, OTHER than by the police, as the law requires. I have a further 4.5 years to go, courtesy of the Clegg Protocol. Bless the man. My local streets know me, and will have greater acquaintance before long. Think global act local. Small is beautiful.

You picked up precisely on the irony of my applied emollients.

Irony R us!

MAKING A START (#36)

Redolent of my post on another thread today: Rompuy would do well to simply translate INTEGRITY into 27 relevant languages. Perhaps even call it poetry?

He can have the rest of the day for weeping.

Time to measure the PERSONALITIES of the people we elevate, not just respond, like a dumb Pavlov Dog, to the sight of a rosette. We have already GOT OURSELVES ANOTHER ONE that way.

SPOILPARTYGAMES

NN not on iplayer.

the question for me is how can the govt pay out millions of taxpayers money and no one has been found guilt for anything or been sacked? It looks more the 'settlement' is to protect people's jobs than national security?

I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE 'INNOCENT TWELVE' ACTUALLY SIGNED (#39)

Bet I never do.

'Its Wicked'

The yaparrazzi were always going to to jack up on 'royal wedding'

the 'mother ring' was a big mistake. the symbolism of 'the ring' is that william wants kate to be his 'mother'? what will the Freudians make of that?

its pretty arrogant of cameron to believe that everyone in the uk is a happy clappy monarchist. It dishonours the position of head of state of the british people to privatise it out to fantasy role gamers.