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Wednesday 12 October 2011

Sarah McDermott | 12:53 UK time, Wednesday, 12 October 2011

UK unemployment has risen to a 17-year high of 2.57 million, according to official figures. Tonight Joe Lynam will give us his take on those figures, the Eurozone crisis and Barroso's plan.

Jeremy will be joined by former Belgian PM Guy Verhofstadt and editor-in-chief at The Economist, John Micklethwait.Ìý

Jonny Dymond will be asking members of the Mormon Church how they think they are viewed by the rest of the United States, and asseses the likelihood that one of their faithful could be elected the next president.

And ahead of the start of Lord Justice Leveson's inquiry on phone hacking, Steve Coogan will join us live in the studio. That and more at 2230 on ´óÏó´«Ã½ Two.

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  • Comment number 1.

    "AND ASSESS THE LIKELIHOOD THAT ONE OF THEIR FAITHFUL COULD BE ELECTED THE NEXT PRESIDENT."

    Well why not - assuming he's not prejudiced! Blogdog - here boy.

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    All this user's posts have been removed.Why?

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    clearly we need more migrants to pay the unemployment bill?

    surprised the carbonites haven't twigged that migrants have a negative impact on uk carbon reduction figures pushing carbon usage up so costing the uk more.

    but then its more than asylum seekers that can be bogus

  • Comment number 5.

    Anglo Saxon capitalism

    if you dare look at the racial makeup you will find the majority are neither anglo nor saxon.

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    All this user's posts have been removed.Why?

  • Comment number 7.

    Should be a good one with Steve Coogan in!

  • Comment number 8.

    6.At 20:01 12th Oct 2011, Disappeared wrote:
    @5 Of course we aren`t Anglo Saxons.In fact we never were. The Angles and Saxons were never more than a small proportion of the British people.
    >

    Hmmmm - well parts of England are still more Anglo-Saxon than anything else as genetic testing has proved this.

    Original British people? English people?

    All I know is that I am 'English' & I have a prior claim to English/British nationality than anyone who is not English/British.

    Being e.g. 'English' is not a genetic issue - it is a state of mind, language, persona, belonging, national identity, culture, religious tolerance but values & law based on Christianity.

    England isn't a nowhere land it is for the 'English' - whatever skin colour or origin they may have.

    National identity is the issue and a pecking order for English rights based on legitimising of rights for nationality, rights of abode, housing, health, education, work, pensions, etc.

    This is why the country is going down the pan fast - complete open access to our English rights & privileges & which is an abuse of real English people by our UK govt & EU by failing to represent us all properly.

  • Comment number 9.

    'And ahead of the start of Lord Justice Leveson's inquiry on phone hacking, Steve Coogan will join us live in the studio.'

    At least not Alan Partridge; that would be too much of a non sequitur.

    I wonder how the rest of the country views Newsynighty these days, but for sure there will be faithful glued to the screen.

    Ah-ha!

  • Comment number 10.

    :D Best of the evening was Jeremy with Steve Coogan & Louise Mensch.
    Isn't Mormonism's polygamy ruling the same as Islamic polygamy, ie, they can legally marry 1 wife, and have numerous other wives (4 as a maximum in Islam) in a religious wedding? Is it really that different from certain parts of the country where polygamy happens?

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    All this user's posts have been removed.Why?

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    God featuring prominently again in the American electoral run-up.

    I only wish there was a God and that he/she/it would rise up and smite down all the sanctimonious people who use its entity to promote their own self-interests.

    A star for PR made in heaven!

    I've reserved my whisky with Old Nick by the fireside. Couldn't imagine spending a heavenly forever in the company of upright, preaching political and religious bores.

    Though come to think of it, maybe I'm already in heaven.

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    All this user's posts have been removed.Why?

  • Comment number 15.

    How can you believe what the ´óÏó´«Ã½ say?

    Watching breakfast news this morning briefly, I wached a report from Greece in which the reporter stated, the Greeks are not lazy, (I think that's probably true) and they work the hardest and longest hours in europe.

    How can he say that when this report came out yesterday?



    Can't the ´óÏó´«Ã½ even get it's facts right these days, and to think most people still believe every word they produce! : (

  • Comment number 16.

    A season of ´óÏó´«Ã½2 programmes about mixed-race Britain

    /blogs/aboutthebbc/2011/09/a-season-of-bbc2-programmes-about-mixed-race-britain.shtml

    "So from the mixed category being included in the census, to Britain in 2011 - what a difference a decade makes. By March 2010 research at Cardiff University was identifying that mixed-race people were perceived as the most attractive, and with increasing numbers of high profile mixed-race relationships it suddenly felt that the entire narrative had turned a corner. So this year when I filled in my census form and ticked mixed white and black African it didn't feel like a special moment. It simply felt perfectly normal to be British and mixed."

  • Comment number 17.

    NEVER MIND THE QUALITY - FEEL THE WIDTH (#15)

    Did you see the smart ´óÏó´«Ã½ lady say they will keep all of the channels, in all of the colours, and all of the sizes Lizzy? While cutting staff and (no doubt) maintaining EMBELLISHMENTS (silly camera shots, blurring, whizzing, obscuring, musack, venue-noise, outside obsession etc). As one of our number might say: "Can't wait for more repeats as long as Jeremy is in them!"

    Weep me.

  • Comment number 18.

    15. At 10:54 13th Oct 2011, ecolizzy wrote:

    Can't the ´óÏó´«Ã½ even get its facts right these days, and to think most people still believe every word they produce!


    With the caveat that the DM is not the greatest sources of facts either ('an international report found' in the DM cranking an eyebrow like a Robinson 'anonymous source' (currently the basis of his latest 'analysis based on gossip' /news/15283131 there is a link for that...

    /blogs/theeditors/2011/10/external_linking.html

    I'd do it myself, but these days the ´óÏó´«Ã½ doesn't like to be told about stuff it says isn't the case.

    Uniquely. I believe.

  • Comment number 19.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

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    No offence intended to Joe and Paul. But I rather the ONS explain the figures.
    The ONS compares the UK employment levels to some Eurozone members in their video. OK its a bit EU centric for my liking , I would rather compare against Canada myself where unemployment decreased by 60,000 in the last quarter, but hay.

    I was also taken back by the of the UK economy , it seems very unbalanced and I feel it should be of concern to us all.

    Hopefully the PBR will have some good news for rebalancing the economy.

    Euro Bailout.

    What a magnanimous offer made by the EU gentleman, sadly though, due to prior legal commitments (IMF), we should and hopefully will not be joining in the EFSF and paying twice. But thanks for the considered thoughtful offer.

    If I may be bold enough to offer a Keynesian solution to growth in the Euro zone , the bigger members could reduce their long standing 19% sales tax and start consuming more of the smaller members goods and services. Because ,if you do not have large circular flows within a currency union , then you have to have a larger wealth transfer programme within that currency union to even things up.

    Looking forward to seeing and understanding the Euro zone plan, when its made public.

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  • Comment number 23.

    12.At 23:58 12th Oct 2011, Disappeared wrote:
    @8 Yes we are going down the pan,but what can be done?

    >

    Sit & wait for things to get worse - shouldn't be too long but those who are & want to be English in England have a 'fight on their/our hands', for sure.

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    12.At 23:58 12th Oct 2011, Disappeared wrote:
    @8 Yes we are going down the pan,but what can be done?
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    Try again as moderators seem particularly neurotic

    We have to wait & as things get worse the English people, in England will need to assert our English rights & privileges, through all lawful & proper means.

    Hope that's more diplomatic than saying something like e.g. we may have a ....... something or other on our .... (things at the end of our arms)

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    25.At 15:37 13th Oct 2011, Disappeared wrote:
    @23/24

    That is why we have to think outside of the box & try & keep England 'English' & try & stop the de-anglifying of our treasured homeland.

    The idea of many is to push the English out of England, outbreed us with ethnic cleansing & taking our churches, village greens, countryside, language, customs, traditions, religion away from us to make us a global nowhere land.

    Everything matters - English words, old English buildings, history etc - we have to spread the word that everything that is English matters - but it is not a DNA test.

  • Comment number 28.

    we are Anglo Saxon for pity's sake, none of your interbred Norman French bolshies around here, we are Anglo Saxon, tilling the fields, maybe the odd rape and pillage but on the whole, fair haired, blue eyed and an example for most of the Western world, the Americans want to trace their roots back to the Anglo Saxons....that's why they saved our ass in two world wars, to preserve the stock...pip pip...

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  • Comment number 31.

    #28 "none of your interbred Norman French bolshies" Sorry Stevie, but that's the worst of tracing back your family tree, I am one of those Norman French bolshies, came over in 1066, and my mother in law only recently. We as a family admire the french bolshies and would love to emulate them! ; )

    The USA wants to create England into a mirror image of their wunerful lifestyle, so Naut and Disa are probably both right.

  • Comment number 32.

    I hate to be arrogant, but I told you so..



    ... and I believe it was Mistress76 view as well.

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  • Comment number 34.

    29.At 16:33 13th Oct 2011, Disappeared wrote:
    @27 The most powerful people influencing British society are currently Americans (who themselves suffer from a degree of Israeli control).

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    Sorry disagree there - Britain does not have a single society - Britain is split by sea, countries, celtic v old anglo saxon, north south, east west, urban rural, rich London & poor regions, immigrant non immigrant, Christian v rest, rich poor, etc, etc

    Britain has a raft of fractious societies as poorly represented through the mis-matched political process & voting mechanisms & loss of sovereignty.

    Now try & tell me where the 'Americans masters' fit in all of that?

    We're controlled by a globalist neo-liberal corrupt political business class which probably has some powerful yanks in it - I'll concede that!

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  • Comment number 37.

    @8. The thing is Nautionier, I, like many, are Britons, and Britons first and foremost, English means little to me in thought and reality. Even before I knew about my own Cornish/Devon, Scottish, Northampton, Jarrow ancestry, genetically and emotionally, I am British and the one Country is Britain (as Americans say America not the USA, so don't bring in the UK thing, please). She's not split by Countries, but ideas that think they are Countries. The rest does need to be addressed.

    Also, at Nutionier again. Those genetic tests were taken where it was likely to be of the highest known cases of Anglo-saxon settlement, compared to the most Welsh of Wales. Even in very Saxon places (small areas) there was still 30+% Brythonic male dna (more if we could see female dna), and in lowland East Scotland, it's the same make up compared to the North East of England, and similar the Lowland West Scotland to Cumbia and North West England, which Scot nats and certain People from England probably would not like to beleave and hear, including yourself. Other genetic tests have shown different results, which show the Anglo-saxon myth, is just that. Instead of the Germanic, Anglo-Saxon world, it should be/read: Brythonic, Brittonic, or British World.

    Stevie, America is not our master, and we ceased to be in debt to them by 2007, from WW2. If they saved our ass, it means, The Empire in uniform (only a few million less than the US) did not have any affect in the Atlantic, Indian, Pacific Oceans, also in Europe and Asian Mainlands, the artic convoys meant nothing, US built ships were cheap, Battle of Britain and the Atlantic was lost etc, etc. If the US saved our ass, then Britain and the rest of the Empire, certainly saved the world. The latter certainly has truth to it and is forgotten, but the former is an favorite anecdote and always brought to the fore for these wars. WW1 has even less American involvement. It must be remembered, WW2 saved America and brought it out of depression, largely From British Empire wealth.

  • Comment number 38.

    And, if we cannot excist as a multi federal state like Germany or the US and become split, as disappeared says, it would mean complete failure and shame. It does not have to be like this. Jeremy Paxman says about pay to play. To have to pay more to this club because of the trouble it is in, for free trade, does not look like free trade to me, but expensive trade for a damaging deficit.

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