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January 2004
Meet the creator of Poo Poo People
Nick Emm with his books
Nick Emm with his books
Notts author - Nick Emm - tells us about how he became a publishing success story.
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Poo Poo People : A Nottingham publishing success story

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Floater's story...Floater can't understand why everyone is doing something on a perfect day for doing nothing?

Sweetcorn's story... Sweetcorn realises how important it is to be happy with who and what we are.

Veggie's story... Veggie Poo investigates the paranormal phenonema of Ghost Poo....sPOOky!!

Jobby's story... Jobby's imagination runs wild with his chainsaw...EEEEEEK!

Trodin's story... finds him being abducted by Alien Poo from the planet Bum who need him to help them fight a Black hole.

Plopstar's story...
Plopstar tries for stardom in the Windy Bottom Park Grand Talent Competition.

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Nick Emm, from Nottinghamshire, is the creator of a new series of books that is rushing off the shelves of bookstores around the country.

We find out why he chose the subject of bowel movements for his set of books that were primarily aimed at kids but have crossed over to the humour market...

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Once upon a time I had a day job... and I'm happy to say that's both the beginning and the end of that particular story.

I believe real riches come from living our lives as we truly want to live them and poverty has never been disabling or a source of unhappiness to me, in fact I see it almost as a necessary element of persuing ones dreams and ambitions.

Circumstances played a crucial part in my 'wake up' call. I was a successful Financial Advisor working for one of the top ten assurance companies when my marriage broke up.

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I had always wanted to write and rather than dwelling on the heart rending gut churning misery that always accompanies the failure of relationships where children are involved, I used the time 'alone' to focus on the ideas that had always flooded my head but that responsibility had kept firmly stashed away in a 'maybe someday' file.

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really unpleasant teacher called Mr Firebrace got me into writing... He'd asked us to write something 'descriptive' and he chose mine to read out, which he did beautifully. It was the 'you'll never believe who wrote this...' introduction, and the 'even a completely useless person can sometimes create something good...' summary which has given him his place in my memory's hall of shame.

Despite this, it obviously registered with me, it let me know I could write.

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I published a series of books based on stories I made up for my son... when he was very young. I made a complete pigs ear of it and they went out of print very quickly and were a complete financial loss.

Writing is hard work, publishing is high risk and I learned both those lessons the hard way.

In 1998, I was sitting in my bedsit. The room was quiet and I sat chain smoking rollups and praying for guidance when a song came to me. Words and music together. The Poo-Rap now appears in the back of every book.

I had great fun developing the characters... and loosely based their personalities on people I knew.

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I tried to make them quirky, colourful and individual and set the stories in a pleasant place within the sewer as opposed to somewhere disgusting and decaying.

The societal structure of Windy Bottom Park is based on a funny line from 'Monty Python & The Holy Grail' where King Arthur announces to a couple of peasants the he is their King, to which the peasants reply 'We don't know anything about a King, we're an autonomous collective.' It makes absolute sense to me.

The big problem was how to write about Poo Poo without causing offence... Five years later they're now out there but I was foolish to think that I'd succeeded in making them 'sanitized' and acceptable to all.

These are 'crossover' books, so although they deliberately have the look and feel of children's books, they work on several levels.

People either love 'em or hate 'em. They get it or they don't. Age range 8 - 80.

My little first floor flat in Long Eaton is strewn with projects and work in progress... Ideas that I'll probably never develop lie in piles on the floor and illustrations of Angels, pigs and Poo Poo cling to the damp walls with blue tac, the varying shades of yellow identifying the age of the assorted pieces of work.

One of the piles on the floor contains a large file marked 'correspondence 1982 -1998'. It holds rejection letters from probably every known publisher, TV company and radio station in the universe.

It sits there gathering dust and reminding me that belief in myself is the lesson here. At any time during that 16 year period I could have quit, gone back to being a wage slave doing a job I hated.

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It stops at 1998 because it was then that I decided to self publish and despite meeting with failure the first time, have never gone back to sending stuff to slush piles.

I had been working on various 'Angel' projects and my film script when I met my 'soulmate'... almost a year ago to the day, and when my darling Gabrielle (O'Brien) first came to my flat she looked around and rather than saying 'How can you live like this!!!???' she said, 'You must get your work out there darling.'

That was the catalyst for me to suddenly call Waterstones Head Office in August last year. When I phoned Waterstones I explained that I thought I had something 'different'... but I found myself almost frightened to say the series title.

Finally and apologetically I said that the series was called 'Poo Poo People'."Don't apologise Nick, Poo Poo sells. When can I see them?" was the response. After picking myself up off the floor, I set about creating two 'mock up' books and my good friend Adrian Wood, a multi talented graphic designer and now our Director of Design, took my illustrations and manuscript and produced two lovely books.

Armed with those I traveled down to Brentford to see Special Promotions buyer, George Gray. He immediately ordered 9,000 books and they went into every Waterstones store in the country on the 27th of October 2003.

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The biggest adversity anyone creative has to face is themselves... I found it easy to kid myself that I was moving forward professionally and personally but ignored the fact that only one project had been brought to fruition.

The fact that it had been a financial failure was glossed over completely when I regaled those who showed the slightest interest in my writing career. I talked of film scripts not even out of the idea stage and books where the pages were still virginal and icy white, as if Speilberg was about to make them and as if the Booker prize this year would be mine.

I don't do this anymore, and funnily enough gave up drinking for life about a year ago.

The breakthrough was less to do with dogged persistence and more to do with finally discovering that love is the most important thing in the world... and that it is the key to happiness.

Having Gabrielle's love and belief in me is mind blowing. In just six short weeks I wrote and illustrated six books and we'd set up Edo Press Limited in Radford.

Radford's great! It's easy to reach, lowish cost, very close to everything, multi-cultural, and rockin'.

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So, what now? Technology has made it possible to contact distributors anywhere in the world and we currently have interest from Oz, Japan, and the US.

This is still ongoing so nothing concrete to report yet. We have a stand booked at the Spring Fair at the NEC in Birmingham to penetrate the gift market and six more Poo Poo titles will be coming out around May/June 2004.

My original intention was to remain completely anonymous, hence my pseudonym Otto Flood... as there are now lots of projects that really are coming to fruition and I wanted to avoid being labeled as the creator of any particular one.

The one most likely to stick is Poo Poo People but as I write this now, I am proud to have been their creator, and to be associated as such, but will keep the name as I like it.

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