“They were from either Pakistan or India - mostly from Punjab, north Punjab, Punjab, Pakistan and India also, yeah? I think to begin with, er the kind of jobs they did were presses, erm - fairly hard work, but they were well paid jobs. And then there was sort of support er jobs. Fairly dirty, I mean the brickyard was a dirty place, in lots of ways. Er, very hot for people who worked in the kilns. But they were well rewarded relatively. There was such an international kind of community there, and there was, er - it was a model of things to come in my opinion. And erm, there were jobs that only white guys seemed to have, and like er, burners, you know? It took many, many years before you could find a non-English person on those, those highly paid jobs, and they were probably more, a little bit more technical. Those jobs were reserved almost for people who’d worked hard er in their life in the kilns, and then when they got to a certain age that sort of job was reserved for them. And you can see the logic in that to some extent, you know. When you get older, you’ve given so much to a brickyards, you become a little bit infirm, and then where do you go?”